1. LVCIFER's Avatar
    Well, after waiting almost 5+ months for this lockscreen, I'm highly disappointed.

    First things first, AME235's "TeeHanLAX" LockInfo plugin is significantly more polished and more well put together. It doesn't use huge line breaks like Element does. It utilizes your screen space better than LockInfo does as well.

    Also, I installed this on two iPhones, both on T-Mobile. One 3G[s] and one 3G.

    The 3G[s] is RIDDLED with bugs. For example, in each category bar, it has the logo, plus the text. i.e., Calendar Icon + CALENDAR text. Well, my problem is that there is no text, just the icons and a blank bar.

    Also, on tHe 3G[s], where it tells you the time/day of when emails or text messages or missed calls came in, all I have is "+7 NULL".

    The 3G seems to be running ok, but it still doesn't look all that nice!

    On both phones, in the upper right 'weather' section, it keeps on cutting my cities name off because they didn't give that section a big enough space.

    I just have a ton of unhappiness and disappointment from this release. I hope it gets better. The ONLY positive is that you can launch all the apps/messages directly from Element, whereas you cannot with the AME235 plugin for LockInfo.

    What do you guys think?
    04-02-2010 05:37 AM
  2. Alli's Avatar
    That is disappointing. I never bothered trying LockInfo since I've been relatively happy with LockCalendar - and was looking forward to Element. I guess I'll stick with what I've got.
    04-02-2010 06:56 AM
  3. LVCIFER's Avatar
    Well, it is free on Cydia so it doesn't hurt to try. Maybe you'll like it more than I do, you never know.
    04-02-2010 07:44 AM
  4. dragonc12's Avatar
    im gonna stick with lockinfo
    04-02-2010 08:13 AM
  5. LVCIFER's Avatar
    Well, if only the forums had a way to take screen shots and upload them directly from the iPhone......
    04-02-2010 08:40 AM
  6. sargd66's Avatar
    At this point Element is a bust, in my opinion. Lockinfo is 100 times better right now. Element has been installed and removed in a matter of 5 minutes.
    04-02-2010 09:09 AM
  7. LVCIFER's Avatar
    Well, here is a quick screen capture video (using "ScreenRecorder" from Cydia) of my iPhone running LockInfo's "AME235 teehan+lax"s HTML Cydget Plug-In. While the fact that it is HTML disables the ability to launch the apps/e-Mails/SMS/MMS/phone apps directly from the Cydget, I am actually quite happy with it.

    Also, regarding the video, I couldn't hit the "sleep" button to record, as that turns recording off. But I was able to use the "InfoShade" feature of LockInfo (tap + hold the status bar clock and the LockScreen slides down from your status bar) to effectively record my LockScreen. Just wanted to be clear on that. AND I'm using "Infinidock" as well, for those who are curious.

    Also, I am using "Another Tap To Unlock 2.0" on my LockScreen as well as "Clock Hide" by Stimpy505 (David Ashman). Ultimately, I prefer this HTML LockInfo plug-in more than the official "Element" release right now. Keywords: RIGHT NOW. I think that once they fix the bugs and iron out the details, "Element" will be the sh*t. Remember - lockInfo had a SIX MONTH beta testing period where THOUSANDS of people helped Ashman to weed out the problems so that he could iron out the details.

    Here's the video, in QuickTime Format:
    04-02-2010 09:15 AM
  8. BLiNK's Avatar
    LOL, how come in the cydia changes section it reads; a lame attempt at an April Fools Day joke

    anyways, i am a really BIG fan of lockinfo and Element would have to be pretty amazing for me to stop using it

    agreed on the Element will be the 'one to beat' eventually
    04-02-2010 09:18 AM
  9. LVCIFER's Avatar
    And since I couldn't record a video of the "Element" Cydget because hitting the sleep button stops the recorder, here are two screen shots of "Element" running on my 3G[s].

    Note the bars, where it only has the App Icon (Calendar, SMS, e-Mail, etc.) where there is NO TEXT. And look at the spacing in between the calendar events, as well as the large text size of the To/From/Subject info from the e-Mails and major messages. It also keeps telling me "7+ NULL" where its supposed to list the date/time the alert/message was received. As stated in my first post, it cuts off the location in most of the weather cities, and overall, it just needs a good amount of work.

    Here are the screen caps:
    04-02-2010 09:26 AM
  10. LVCIFER's Avatar
    LOL, how come in the cydia changes section it reads; a lame attempt at an April Fools Day joke

    anyways, i am a really BIG fan of lockinfo and Element would have to be pretty amazing for me to stop using it

    agreed on the Element will be the 'one to beat' eventually
    Absolutely. I just think that its going to take some time, and lots of troubleshooting. Once they get the hang of it (and DEDICATE THEMSELVES, goddammit! It shouldn't take 6 months to release THIS!), I think that "Element" will be amazing.

    The problem that I get is that I truly in my heart believe that they got a great DEVELOPER to create this application, but the guy is good at DEVELOPING - he's got **** POOR presentation skills. He's obviously not a DESIGNER. If he were, the fonts, spacing, and overall LOOK of the app would be more visually appealing. Now, back in my youth before joining the service I USED to be a graphic designer and a fontographer ("typesetter"), but then 9/11 hit and all the major design firms moved out to NJ (I'm in NYC), and that specific field more or less started paying CRAP salaries so I had to look for alternate professions. My point being, I know the difference between a developer and a designer, and if they would just bring a designer on board to design the LOOK of the app, and then have the developer modify the code in such a way that it could mimick/replicate the design, this app would be f'n amazing.

    It DOES work, especially in functionality. It works as it should. I have problems with the fact that everything here is all a DISPLAY problem, and with devices like the iPhone, stuff just HAS to look pretty. There are no excuses for that. Anything subpar is a major FAIL.
    04-02-2010 09:32 AM
  11. LVCIFER's Avatar
    This is "Element" running on a regular iPhone 3G, which doesnt have too many tweaks or modifications on it. So this is more or less how it would look while running "stock".

    For some reason, it doesn't have some of the same problems on the 3G[s].

    For example, the text in the bars displays like it should, and the time/date of the incoming messages/alerts are where they should be and listed properly. However, the problems with the weather cities, and the horrible looking spacing in between messages and calendar events and bad looking display as well as over-sized line breaks is still evident, which leads me to believe that it was no "fluke" on my original iPhone 3G[s]. Error-free, this app still needs lots of work in the presentation of it.
    04-02-2010 09:47 AM
  12. big9erfan's Avatar
    While I like what Element is going for, they have fallen short in execution.

    Here's problems I have on my 3GS:
    - Calendar Events don't show at all
    - Weather is in too small of an area to display the location accurately
    - Dates are all wrong, text messages from yesterday and the day before all display as 7+ Days Ago
    - New Email isn't displayed at all

    Options I'd like:
    - Don't display empty categories
    - Modify display order of items ( maybe I want calendar on top instead of missed calls )
    - Actually display my email and calendar items
    04-02-2010 12:28 PM
  13. LVCIFER's Avatar
    I have been referring @gteehan on Twitter to this post, and he's going to pass this information over to @saurik and the other Greek guy who is doing the development of 'Element'.

    Hopefully, none of this stuff falls on deaf ears.

    As a matter of fact, anyone who has suggestions, start leaving them here. I'm going to compile a list and in the middle/end of next week, I'm going to pass them all on to @gteehan.

    Also something to be noted - directly from @gteehan, 'Element' is still in it's beta stages. Once it comes out of beta, there WILL be a price tag attached to this app. It's free for now because they're using our input to iron out all the defects.

    Ashman did the same thing with LockInfo, so it's not a surprise.

    Long story short, @gteehan DOES know that there are a lot of problems with this release so far, and he asks that we don't abandon hope yet. This was all planned, and there WILL be improvements coming our way as well as fixes.
    04-02-2010 12:51 PM
  14. BLiNK's Avatar
    eh, i think i'm gonna wait on this one
    after reading the comments in this post it's looks like a lot of tweaking & frustration

    i'm pretty satisfied with the [Lock Info Native Theme] LISport v 1.1 update

    MacThemes Forum / [Lock Info Native Theme] LISport v 1.1 update
    04-02-2010 01:29 PM
  15. big9erfan's Avatar
    I have been referring @gteehan on Twitter to this post, and he's going to pass this information over to @saurik and the other Greek guy who is doing the development of 'Element'.

    Hopefully, none of this stuff falls on deaf ears.

    As a matter of fact, anyone who has suggestions, start leaving them here. I'm going to compile a list and in the middle/end of next week, I'm going to pass them all on to @gteehan.

    Also something to be noted - directly from @gteehan, 'Element' is still in it's beta stages. Once it comes out of beta, there WILL be a price tag attached to this app. It's free for now because they're using our input to iron out all the defects.

    Ashman did the same thing with LockInfo, so it's not a surprise.

    Long story short, @gteehan DOES know that there are a lot of problems with this release so far, and he asks that we don't abandon hope yet. This was all planned, and there WILL be improvements coming our way as well as fixes.
    Just send the tweets directly to limneos & saurik, so there's no middle man

    I fully expect a paid app, and if it's functional and works well I'll gladly pay for it, but at this point it's definitely borderline alpha/beta software.
    04-02-2010 02:49 PM
  16. buddyclub94's Avatar
    cool app! never heard of it
    04-02-2010 06:10 PM
  17. BLiNK's Avatar
    so i was curious to see what this was like
    so far and i do not like the fact that when you go into something from your lockscreen it does not take you back to the lockscreen when finished

    no calendar events

    no email previews

    unless i'm missing something...
    04-04-2010 09:45 AM
  18. LVCIFER's Avatar
    Well, a new update to "Element" has been released fixing some issues. All of my "+7 NULL" issues ave been fixed, and my calendar events show up now as well. As far as the e-Mail previews, Blink, they only give you a few lines of a preview under the sender/subject, you have to tap on the text to open the e-Mail directly.

    All in all, that was a quick update, and I see some minor improvements, and unfortunately some new bugs, such as:

    "Element" will show me e-Mail previews of messages that I have in a DISABLED mailbox (mail account turned off in settings app).

    That something that needs to be fixed as well. But overall, a fast release for a new release, some improvements made as well, and overall, use great things for this item.

    I guess we all just wait and see.
    04-04-2010 10:52 PM
  19. BLiNK's Avatar
    noticed that update earlier as well but only getting the next day preview for the calendar, nothing further than that
    i'm with you on the lack of designer situation and really surprised that we are having these discussions about this hyped up app
    to me the devs had plenty of time to at least work out these little things

    and it seems like this is a battery drainer, maybe...
    04-04-2010 11:59 PM
  20. buddyclub94's Avatar
    got the app today!...really worths it!!
    04-05-2010 01:05 AM
  21. LVCIFER's Avatar
    Have you gone into Settings and edited the calendar view to show more than 1 day/x # of events?

    This project had always been experiencing difficulties, especially with obtaining developers and the like.

    I THINK that with time, it will improve. There are a few things I'd like to change though...
    04-05-2010 01:09 PM
  22. BLiNK's Avatar
    Have you gone into Settings and edited the calendar view to show more than 1 day/x # of events?
    if youre talking about the Element Settings, the only option i have for Calendar Events would be: Enabled - ON/OFF

    There are a few things I'd like to change though...
    like what?...
    04-05-2010 01:24 PM
  23. drian's Avatar
    I'm enjoying element, but yes, after all this time, you would expect it to work better. I have a few problems with it displaying things properly, but I like it.

    From what I've seen, LockInfo looks better, but you have to pay for that one, right? And you need winterboard?
    Last edited by drian; 04-05-2010 at 03:16 PM.
    04-05-2010 03:11 PM
  24. big9erfan's Avatar
    From what I've seen, LockInfo looks better, but you have to pay for that one, right?
    You will have to pay for Element once it is out of Beta as well.
    04-05-2010 03:14 PM
  25. drian's Avatar
    ah i see!!
    04-05-2010 03:19 PM
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