1. mrudes's Avatar
    Hello,


    My name is Matt. I am severely disabled and have an iPhone on AT&T. I talked my Mom into buying an iPhone from eBay that was already unlocked for (after tax) about $800. I get it, set it up, works great. Make calls, goes on internet, great. Tried to download Shazaam, won't work, needs OS 3.0. Then I try to update it to OS 3.0, because none of the applications from the App store would download, and EVERYTHING HAS GONE TO HELL.

    Seriously, my life is falling apart, I can't take this **** right now. I'm on the waitlist for UCLA Law, I feel like a worthless piece of crap, and I don't need a stupid iPhone making me feel like a deevolved monkey! If someone could help walk me step by step through the process of turning this $800 piece of **** back into a useable phone, I will bow down to your feet (see offer below)

    THis is what happened:

    The iPhone 3G came preinstalled with OS 2.1.1. It had a little sim card attachment that I put my Mom's T-Mobile SIM card onto, put that into the phone, and it worked just fine. OK. The sheet that came with the phone said "Don't update", but me being the freaking dumbass that I am, I said, "Screw it, I'll try updating." The Appstore wouldn't work, it needed OS 3.0, and the apps was why I wanted the phone for my Mom.

    Now I'm in hell.

    After installing OS 3.0, the phone now says that there is no SIM card installed. I tried to use Pwnage to get the iPhone BACK to OS 2.1.1, just so I can get the phone back to a place where it is a PHONE, but nothing is going right.

    I'M PULLING MY HAIR OUT.

    When I try to "Restore" the iPHone to the factory settings, by holding down "option" and clicking Restore, it looks like it'll work...until it says, "Error 1600", and it won't let me restore it, so I can't continue with the Pwnage stuff. I already ran Pwnage once, and even though it happened half an hour ago I don't remember the sequence of events----I think I updated to OS 3.0, freaked out, then tried to use pwnage, then freaked out.....

    Please please please please please, I need help with the following:

    1) Getting the iPhone of of 3.0 (which has turned it into useless brick) and back to 2.2.1

    2) If possible, getting the phone to 3.0 AND working on T-Mobile.

    I'm not uber-technologically knowledgeable, but I've been around Macs my entire life. I can't write Applescript, but I thought I knew enough to attempt pwnage. I am running Mac OS 10.5.6, aluminum Macbook Pro, about 2 years old.

    So please, please have pity and help a cripple out.

    Thanks,


    Matt
    Last edited by mrudes; 06-20-2009 at 03:58 PM.
    06-20-2009 12:43 AM
  2. Cut.n.Pasted's Avatar
    Dude, you updated the iPhone to 3.0.

    From what youre describing, your iphone is not factory unlocked. You're actually using some kind of "rebelsim" or "turbosim" which is an attachment to the sim that somehow makes the iPhone work with 3rd party sim cards, so it becomes "unlocked", but the phone itself is not really unlocked after all.

    Most likely the turbosim you are using is not compatible with OS 3.0 and now you're stuck with a beautiful mp3 player.

    Your options are:

    1. Wait for ultrasn0w which is a little software patch that fully unlocks the iPhone with 3.0 OS. It will be released sometime this weekend.

    2. Go back to previous OS. A headache for most people, even experienced iPhone users.

    I can't help you with either! But at least now you know where you are standing.
    Last edited by Cut.n.Pasted; 06-20-2009 at 01:26 AM.
    06-20-2009 01:11 AM
  3. Ghecko's Avatar
    Your bricked bro, i am sorry to say it, you should of never updated just because you wanted to play with a APP.

    Just sign up for ATT, thats the best i can tell you.
    06-20-2009 01:14 AM
  4. Ghecko's Avatar
    Most likely the turbosim you are using is not compatible with OS 3.0 so you're now stuck with a beautifull mp3 player.
    HA HA HA thats funny.
    06-20-2009 01:15 AM
  5. HHI944's Avatar
    search your local craigslist. Most likely there are some entrepreneuring individuals offering to jailbreak for a fee. One of them should be able to play SIM card swap around and get you where you jailbroken/unlocked (is ultrasnow out yet?) on 3.0.

    Or, steal a friends sim that has an ATT iPhone and use it throughout the restore/jailbreak/unlock process.
    06-20-2009 01:23 AM
  6. Cut.n.Pasted's Avatar
    Your bricked bro, i am sorry to say it, you should of never updated just because you wanted to play with a APP.

    Just sign up for ATT, thats the best i can tell you.
    Hmmm... the device is not technically "BRICKED" that would mean he permanently damaged the phone.

    In his case, I believe, he just updated to 3.0 and it won't recognize the sim card. Which is normal.
    06-20-2009 01:24 AM
  7. mrudes's Avatar
    Hello,

    To CutnPaste and HHI944, thank you for HELPFUL responses. I didn't come on here to be "HA HA HA'd" at. But hey, if it makes you feel better to laugh at me because I made a mistake, go for it. I'm trying to get my mother a great phone without having to suffer through AT&T service where I live, which is sh$t. I guess that's pretty funny.

    Ahem...my aside finished...I have a genuine AT&T activated iPhone 3G myself, so I have an AT&T iPhone SIM. How can I use this to at least restore the "turbosim" iPhone to 2.2.1 (the OS the phone came with) so that at least the stupid, overpriced "turbosim" will at least make the phone a PHONE? Like it was for two minutes before I updated?

    It would seem easy to jailbreak an iPhone, with all the guides out there, but none of them are addressing my problem. I kept searching "Jailbreak iPhone 3.0" and would get links that say "iPhone 3.0 jailbroken! Yay!" but no download would be in sight--they all referred to Ultrasn0w, which I guess is the new Pwnage tool, but no one knows how long it will be till that comes out.

    If nothing else, if someone could answer these following questions, I would be very grateful and would help me understand what my chances of success are:

    1) Can I jailbroke the iPhone to the point that it will make calls and access internet on T-Mobile?
    (this I already got answered...yes, except not on 3G...)

    2). Can I access the Appstore, on the iPhone itself, and download apps (which would have to be in OS 3.0, because I guess non-updated phones can't download apps).

    3) Would I be able to update the phone in the future, or would I need to continue to jailbreak it each time an update comes out?


    If I can't figure this out by Monday, I'll look on Craigslist. I just had a bad experience with a Craigslist person who was paid to help get access to OS 9 files but never followed through....

    Thanks!
    06-20-2009 03:56 PM
  8. obee1's Avatar
    The 3.0 base band got updated when you upgraded to 3.0. This is why Dev-Team warns people that want to unlock their phones. I doubt even Ultrasnow will address your problem. According to what Dev-Team says on their site, once the base band is changed, the phone cannot be unlocked.

    Sign up with AT&T if you want your phone to work.

    For more info, check out the Dev-Team blog. blog.iphone-dev.org

    You seem a bit confused on the difference between jailbreaking and unlocking your phone. While it needs to be jailbroken to unlock the phone, jailbreaking it will not unlock to be used on another carrier.
    Last edited by obee1; 06-20-2009 at 07:14 PM.
    06-20-2009 07:11 PM
  9. HHI944's Avatar
    I'm pretty sure he'll be able to unlock it once ultrasnow goes live. On the blog they mention that you won't be able to have cell coverage if you go ahead and update OS/Jailbreak until Ultrasnow releases.

    OP, I would wait until Ultrasnow comes out (should be any day now) and put YOUR sim into the phone to restore it to factory then jailbreak then, obviously, unlock.
    06-20-2009 07:37 PM
  10. obee1's Avatar
    I'm pretty sure he'll be able to unlock it once ultrasnow goes live. On the blog they mention that you won't be able to have cell coverage if you go ahead and update OS/Jailbreak until Ultrasnow releases.
    You're right. My bad. I've been ignoring the unlock news, 'cause T-Mobile totally sucks in my area, so I'm stuck with AT&T anyway.
    06-20-2009 07:43 PM
  11. HHI944's Avatar
    I hate Tmobile and ATT coverage here SUCKS. I'm praying Apple goes to Verizon.
    06-20-2009 08:06 PM
  12. Tramain's Avatar
    I hate Tmobile and ATT coverage here SUCKS. I'm praying Apple goes to Verizon.
    Everyone is but I don't think that will happen for a while.
    06-20-2009 08:26 PM
  13. obee1's Avatar
    I hate Tmobile and ATT coverage here SUCKS. I'm praying Apple goes to Verizon.
    I'm the opposite...hate AT&T (I still can't believe they botched the MMS release), but T-Mobile coverage sucks here. Never had T-Mo, though, so maybe I'd hate them too, given the opportunity.

    Totally with you on the Verizon thing though.
    06-21-2009 03:07 AM
  14. Cut.n.Pasted's Avatar
    ...I would be very grateful and would help me understand what my chances of success are:

    1) Can I jailbroke the iPhone to the point that it will make calls and access internet on T-Mobile?
    (this I already got answered...yes, except not on 3G...)

    2). Can I access the Appstore, on the iPhone itself, and download apps (which would have to be in OS 3.0, because I guess non-updated phones can't download apps).

    3) Would I be able to update the phone in the future, or would I need to continue to jailbreak it each time an update comes out?
    ...
    1) Already answered...
    2) Yes you can. As long as your phone is Itunes Activated. Non-updated phones CAN download apps, as long as you have the required OS version for that app. Most apps right now are either 2.2 or 2.2.1.
    3) Everytime you update the iPhone FIRST you will need to check for a new Jailbreak/Unlock, which are released very fast thanks to the dev team guys. That is not really a problem, just wait a couple of days without updating until they release the JailBreak/Unlock.

    And to clarify... Jailbreaking and Unlocking are two different procceses.

    1. Jailbreaking allows you to install third party apps (non-Apple Store Apps) like cydia and installer for example)

    2. Unlocking overrides the AT&T sim lock, so you can put any sim, from any carrier in the world.

    PwnageTool (mac) for 3G only jailbreaks the phone, it does not unlock it. Neither does RedSn0w (the windows version). It just jailbreaks the 3G.

    So.... wait for ultrasn0w if you want to use T-Mobile in your iPhone 3.0
    06-21-2009 04:02 AM
  15. Cut.n.Pasted's Avatar
    Hey, reading some forums around tonight I read this post:

    "If you're going to create a custom firmware using PWNage Tool and you're using Expert Mode, do NOT check the "Activate the phone" box in the GENERAL section if you have a legit carrier such as AT&T. Otherwise, you'll get no service. You may get bars but no Edge or 3G. I know this from personal experience."

    That might fix your AT&T sim issue.
    06-21-2009 04:40 AM
  16. aros13's Avatar
    ok try this it worked for me on me on the betas for 3.0

    1. try and restore it. This will not work and the screen should say connect to itunes with the cd and plug

    2.hold down both the power/sleep button(located at the top right of the iphone) and the home button(located at bottom of phone, center button) for 15 seconds then release the home button and hold the power/sleep button for 2 seconds

    3. Now download iphone 3g 2.2.1 5h11 firmware from tysiphonehelp . com then go to downloads and find iphone 3g 2.2.1

    4. go down and pick iphone 3g 2.2.1 5h11 and save the file!

    5. option restore to the 2.2.1 (5h11) firmware and you should be good to go

    6. The phone wont be unlocked but it will be fully functional

    7. WAIT for ultrasnow to come out
    06-21-2009 12:01 PM
  17. Xm_jdm's Avatar
    So this iPhone came to you NOT unlocked but Jailbroken. It came with a Turbo SIM which isnt software unlocked. So first you got lied to and paid 800 for an jailbroken 3G.

    Then you went against what the note said (he probably should have told you why though) and updated anyway...

    Rofl. UCLA law you say?
    06-21-2009 12:15 PM
  18. athynz's Avatar
    So this iPhone came to you NOT unlocked but Jailbroken. It came with a Turbo SIM which isnt software unlocked. So first you got lied to and paid 800 for an jailbroken 3G.

    Then you went against what the note said (he probably should have told you why though) and updated anyway...

    Rofl. UCLA law you say?
    Dude, seriously not cool. Yeah he made a mistake but come on, cut him some slack.

    I'm seriously jonesin for the QuickPWN 3.0 jailbreak... I D/Led redsn0w but I'm a bit leery of using it. Hopefully Dev Team will put it out soon as a Father's Day gift... LOL

    To the OP - If it's not super critical I'd wait for a few days for the Dev Team to release the latest version of QuickPWn to jailbreak 3.0 and since they've already gotten ultrasn0w working to unlock 3.0 on the 3G you should be good to go upon the release. Just jailbreak, update Cydia, D/L ultrasn0w, and unlock. If you gotta have service on that phone sooner you might want to bite the bullet, restore to stock 3.0 and get service with AT&T... Good luck.
    06-21-2009 03:23 PM
  19. Xm_jdm's Avatar
    athynz...

    I'm just saying is all. He shouldnt have updated if the seller included a note. It would be different if there was no notation included.

    And if I were the OP, I would demand my money back...

    800.00 bucks! For a used and LOCKED 3G?

    Anyway, good luck OP.
    06-22-2009 06:17 PM
  20. mrudes's Avatar
    New Update:

    I have successfully gotten the phone BACK to 2.2.1 using PwnageTool 2.2.5 and the ispw for 2.2.1. I had to insert my AT&T SIM from my working iPhone 3G into the "new" not-working iPhone 3G, then used PwnageTool to option-restore it. Now it looks like a basic iPhone, except with the Cydia and Pineapple logo.

    That by itself is good news. I quickly tried sticking the T-Mobile SIM card into the phone along with the "ebay" SIM...I'll call it an assistant-SIM...(I put the assistant-SIM down first then the T-Mobile on top) but it didn't work. The SIM wouldn't register. It seemed for a split second it would...but it didn't. Maybe I had it upside down or orientated the wrong way...dunno.

    Unfortunately, I didn't have the time to keep fiddling, I'll try again tonight.

    However...do you think it's possible that in all the switching of SIMs back and forth that I damaged the assistant-SIM, and if I just bought a new one I'd be OK? ... Otherwise, I'll try again tonight.
    06-23-2009 07:42 PM
  21. mrudes's Avatar
    So this iPhone came to you NOT unlocked but Jailbroken. It came with a Turbo SIM which isnt software unlocked. So first you got lied to and paid 800 for an jailbroken 3G.

    Then you went against what the note said (he probably should have told you why though) and updated anyway...

    Rofl. UCLA law you say?
    Wow, good one, bro'!. You just kicked a cripple when he's down. Congrats, your trophy is on its way. Put it up on your mantle, next to all your accomplishments, see how nice it looks.

    Sheesh, no wonder I don't do message boards.
    On the other hand...emoticons are fun...

    And btw, however you look at it, I got conned. Even if I hadn't updated to OS 3 and called up the eBay seller, they would have said, "Don't update. Not our problem. Return it if you want. Can't download Apps? Tough ****" But their return policy is only store credit minus 20% restocking fee. You do the math--I lost either way. If I had been some grandma in Bumpkinville, I would've thrown the phone in the trash by now.

    To Cut'n'Paste and everyone else--->thanks, your help was awesome. I understand I have a jailbroken but not unlocked phone, and that Ultrasnow will hopefully solve my problems. I'm glad at least that I got the phone to some semblance of working order.

    I just have one more question:

    My mom is using a ****ty, back-up T-Mobile phone that has to be eight years old (a purple flip-open clamshell nearly as thick as a brick). She can't take it much longer and is thinking about updating her T-Mobile service to get a new phone, another Blackberry probably, until the iPhone is resolved.

    Should I get her to wait a few days for Ultrasnow, or does your gut tell you it's going to be awhile before it comes out (like more than a week)? DevTeam's blog says they're "working hard [for the money...oh so hard for the money]" but no ETA...

    As long as I know...eventually...that this **** will work out, I'll be ok.

    Matt
    06-23-2009 08:08 PM
  22. Cut.n.Pasted's Avatar
    Hey man, ultrasn0w was just released last night.

    You can safely upgrade your iphone to 3.0, and jailbreak/unlock it to work with ANY sim card without using sim attachments.

    I did it like this, and it went really smooth. Worked like a charm.

    FOLLOW MY STEPS:

    1. Insert original AT&T card, without any attachments. Just the SIM.
    2. RESTORE iPhone to 3.0 factory settings. (Don't update)

    Note: To restore iPhone to 3.0 you must Shift-LeftClick the RESTORE button and select the 3.0 firmware file, which you can download straight from apple here: http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite....1_Restore.ipsw

    3. Activate the iPhone (checkmark "As a new phone", avoid backups).
    4. Jailbreak with RedSn0w. (Do not checkmark Icy).

    Note: You can download UltraSn0w here: http://theiphoneproject.org/windows/...-win_0.7.2.zip

    5. Launch Cydia. Select Graphical User. Then UPDATE essentials.
    6. Add this source: repo666.ultrasn0w.com (not an "o" it's zero).
    7. Search "ultrasn0w" then INSTALL IT.
    8. Turn off iPhone. (Hold power button for 5 seconds, slide)
    9. Switch your SIM to T-Mobile, without any attachments. Just the SIM.
    10. Turn on iPhone.

    And you have yourself a glorious JailBroken and software-UNLOCKED iPhone.

    Notes:
    I recommend disabling 3G before installing ultrasn0w. It has been reported to cause some errors, specially in T-Mobile. Also, when jailbreaking, read ALL INSTRUCTIONS in the process. This is important. And make sure you are ready to push the power and home button on the iPhone. So hold it in your hand. It may take you by surprise. Dont panic if you didnt to a perfect timing. Just try again, restart ultrasn0w. You wont damage the phone.
    Last edited by Cut.n.Pasted; 06-23-2009 at 08:33 PM.
    06-23-2009 08:09 PM
  23. mrudes's Avatar
    OMG, that's fantastic, Cut'n'Pate, put I need you to clarify one thing:

    2) Restore iPhone OS 3 factory settings -- I am on a Mac, OS 10.5.7. So I open iTunes, Option-Click "Restore" on the iPhone part, then select the file you linked, then let it run its course?

    But I downloaded the linked file and it unzips with another file, not with the IPSW file I need. Can I just download any 3.0 IPSW file, like I did previously?

    3. Active the iPhone -- where? In RedSn0w?
    06-23-2009 09:22 PM
  24. mrudes's Avatar
    OMG OMG OMG, I might be REALLY close...I've got a running pineapple logo, and it's loading....
    06-23-2009 09:49 PM
  25. mrudes's Avatar
    OMG, I am SOOOOO CLOSE...please, Cut.n.Pasted, I am on step 6: "Add this source: repo666.ultrasn0w.com (not an "o" it's zero)." I did the "Update Essentials" part. Where do I add the "repo...." thing? Did that happen when I did "Update Essentials"? When I go to "Search" and enter "repo666....etc" or "ultrasn0w" I don't get anything......

    so close...can taste it....yum....apple-y...
    06-23-2009 09:57 PM
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