1. Jeremy's Avatar
    It may be a long while before anyone is able to unlock (not to be confused with jailbreaking) a iPhone 3g. Even if you were able to not sure how you would get one or even use with T-mobile here in the US. But never the less it's not possible anyways.

    http://xs1.iphwn.org/video_assets/geohot.png
    07-13-2008 11:07 AM
  2. Jeremy's Avatar
    There really is not point to all of this canceling a contract with At&t... you can't unlock the phone to use with any other carrier yet. Who knows how long it will take.

    http://forum.theiphoneblog.com/jailb...le-unlock.html
    07-13-2008 11:10 AM
  3. athreya#IM's Avatar
    There really is not point to all of this canceling a contract with At&t... you can't unlock the phone to use with any other carrier yet. Who knows how long it will take.

    http://forum.theiphoneblog.com/jailb...le-unlock.html
    its been unlocked already India.

    Also gizmodo and others have shown unlocked iphones online.
    07-13-2008 11:16 AM
  4. Jeremy's Avatar
    its been unlocked already India.

    Also gizmodo and others have shown unlocked iphones online.
    No, you are thinking of unlocked 2.0 firmware. Big difference.

    *Unless this person lives in a country where they legally had to sell unlocked iPhones*
    Last edited by Jeremy Sikora; 07-13-2008 at 12:09 PM.
    07-13-2008 11:18 AM
  5. athreya#IM's Avatar
    No, you are thinking of unlocked 2.0 firmware. Big difference.
    i mean the phone. yesterday i saw the ceo of one of the large mobile companies (equivalent of att here) carrying the new iphone. he showed it to me.


    I dont know the difference ..can u pls explain?
    07-13-2008 11:22 AM
  6. Jeremy's Avatar
    i mean the phone. yesterday i saw the ceo of one of the large mobile companies (equivalent of att here) carrying the new iphone. he showed it to me.


    I dont know the difference ..can u pls explain?
    2.0 firmware can be unlocked with a tool that has not been released yet by the dev team. So if you have a first gen iPhone with the 2.0 firmware on it you can unlock it to use on another carrier. When it will released I do not know. You can not do this with a iPhone 3g. (yet) Please read the link I provided above for more information.

    *Here is the link:http://forum.theiphoneblog.com/jailb...le-unlock.html
    Last edited by Jeremy Sikora; 07-13-2008 at 11:27 AM.
    07-13-2008 11:25 AM
  7. athreya#IM's Avatar
    2.0 firmware can be unlocked with a tool that has not been released yet by the idev team. So if you have a first gen iPhone with the 2.0 firmware on it you can unlock it to use on another carrier. When it will released I do not know. You can not do this with a iPhone 3g. (yet) Please read the link I provided above for more information.

    *Here is the link:http://forum.theiphoneblog.com/jailb...le-unlock.html
    thanks. but the gentleman im referring to was using the 3g iphone on his own network here...presume its unlocked right?
    07-13-2008 11:27 AM
  8. Jeremy's Avatar
    thanks. but the gentleman im referring to was using the 3g iphone on his own network here...presume its unlocked right?
    I don't know where you are located but I'm sure they were using it on a carrier that has the iPhone 3g in its line up.
    07-13-2008 11:29 AM
  9. athreya#IM's Avatar
    i read the link u mentioned..what is the difference between 2.0 firmware unlock and the iphone 3g device unlock?

    can one work without the other?

    thanks
    07-13-2008 11:33 AM
  10. Jeremy's Avatar
    i read the link u mentioned..what is the difference between 2.0 firmware unlock and the iphone 3g device unlock?

    can one work without the other?

    thanks
    The 2.0 firmware is what comes on the iPhone 3g when you purchase it. The first iPhone had 1.4 firmware that you can not upgrade to 2.0 firmware. You will be able to unlock 2.0 firmware 1st generation iPhones soon. The iPhone 3g you can NOT. The hardware is completely different and hackers have not yet found a way to unlock the 3g to be used on other carriers. Hope this helps - only way I know how to explain it.
    07-13-2008 11:38 AM
  11. athreya#IM's Avatar
    The 2.0 firmware is what comes on the iPhone 3g when you purchase it. The first iPhone had 1.4 firmware that you can not upgrade to 2.0 firmware. You will be able to unlock 2.0 firmware 1st generation iPhones soon. The iPhone 3g you can NOT. The hardware is completely different and hackers have not yet found a way to unlock the 3g to be used on other carriers. Hope this helps - only way I know how to explain it.
    thanks. but i myself saw the iphone 3g on Airtel network yesterday morning.
    so somoene has found a found around it in India.
    07-13-2008 11:41 AM
  12. Jeremy's Avatar
    thanks. but i myself saw the iphone 3g on Airtel network yesterday morning.
    so somoene has found a found around it in India.
    Yeah you did.... because it is available to use on Airtel...

    I think you do not understand what I mean by unlocking. For a more in depth view and maybe get a better understanding check out this link:
    http://forum.theiphoneblog.com/jailb...break-faq.html
    07-13-2008 11:44 AM
  13. whmurray's Avatar
    There really is not point to all of this canceling a contract with At&t... you can't unlock the phone to use with any other carrier yet. Who knows how long it will take.

    http://forum.theiphoneblog.com/jailb...le-unlock.html
    I do not know what you mean. I thought that "jailbreak" software was already available.

    Neither Apple not AT&T seem to get it. For world travelers, this lock down defeats part of the motivation for choosing GSM. When I travel to Hong Kong later this year, Calls from the US, which look like local calls to the caller, will be international calls at roaming rates for me. Calls within Hong Kong become international calls at very high rates. Data, including e-mail, becomes prohibitive.

    I plan to take a regular GSM phone, fortunately with all of my personalization, and buy a local pre-paid chip. This is not an ideal solution because no one will be able to find the number for this phone.

    Simply using your iPhone as you would in the US can result in hundreds of dollars of charges. I will have to put the iPhone in airplane mode so that it does not register on the local network.

    Given the alternatives, jailbreaking starts to look pretty good.

    Keep in mind, I am not trying to cheat anyone out of legitimate revenue. I pay for my software. I do not mind paying global roaming charges on calls that I control. I do not want to pay global roaming charges on what are really local calls.
    Last edited by whmurray; 07-13-2008 at 11:59 AM.
    07-13-2008 11:45 AM
  14. athreya#IM's Avatar
    Yeah you did.... because it is available to use on Airtel...
    no not yet..the official launch date is september on airtel and vodafone.

    i asked him pointedly and he said he had it unlocked.
    07-13-2008 11:46 AM
  15. Jeremy's Avatar
    I do not know what you mean. I thought that "jailbreak" software was already available.

    Neither Apple not AT&T seem to get it. For world travelers, this lock down defeats part of the motivation for choosing GSM. When I travel to Hong Kong later this year, Calls from the US, which look like local calls to the caller, will be international calls at roaming rates for me. Calls within Hong Kong become international calls at very high rates. Data, including e-mail, becomes prohibitive.

    I plan to take a regular GSM phone, fortunately with all of my personalization, and buy a local pre-paid chip. This is not an ideal solution because no one will be able to find the number for this phone.

    Simply using your iPhone as you would in the US can result in hundreds of dollars of charges. I will have to put the iPhone in airplane mode so that it does not register on the local network.

    Given the alternatives, jailbreaking starts to look pretty good.
    Jailbreaking and Unlocking are two totally different things. Please check out this link and I think you will get a better understanding of what I've been trying to say.

    http://forum.theiphoneblog.com/jailb...break-faq.html
    07-13-2008 11:47 AM
  16. Jeremy's Avatar
    no not yet..the official launch date is september on airtel and vodafone.

    i asked him pointedly and he said he had it unlocked.
    Ok then... I don't know what to tell you. I just know the facts at the moment. And you claim you had some links to prove this. Please provide them. I'd love to see them.
    07-13-2008 11:48 AM
  17. Jeremy's Avatar
    And here is your gizmodo link... again that is just the 2.0 software. Not a iPhone 3g.
    IPhone 2.0 Unlock: iPhone OS 2.0 Unlocked

    The only way possible at the moment is he lives in a country where by law apple had to sell them unlocked.
    Last edited by Jeremy Sikora; 07-13-2008 at 12:02 PM.
    07-13-2008 11:56 AM
  18. sycomsimon's Avatar
    Ash youre talking out of your earpiece man......

    blog.iphone-dev.org

    3g iPhone - Unlocked, Jailbroken and freakin almost released to the Pubic ;-))))))))))))
    07-14-2008 07:25 AM
  19. Jeremy's Avatar
    Ash youre talking out of your earpiece man......

    blog.iphone-dev.org

    3g iPhone - Unlocked, Jailbroken and freakin almost released to the Pubic ;-))))))))))))
    I said the phone is not CURRENTLY unlockable.... And it still is NOT unlockable. They unlocked the firmware. Not the phone itself.

    Here are some quotes from the latest post on the idev website from idev members...(all posted within the last 10 hours)

    "AFAIK, the release will have jailbreak for both models of iPhone, and will include BootNeuter to unlock 2G iPhones.

    The security of the 3G baseband is stronger than that of the 2G iPhone, so a new unlock will have to be developed for it. No, we don't know how long that will take."

    A person asked if all this meant if we could unlock the phone for different carriers...

    "No, this means we will be able to "Jailbreak" 3Gs. SIM-Unlocking is a separate challenge."


    Bottom line the 3g hardware can not currently be unlocked.

    *Here is link to the idev team members making the above comments if anyone who does not believe me wants to see it for their own eyes.
    blog.iphone-dev.org | iBoot unlaced....
    Last edited by Jeremy Sikora; 07-16-2008 at 01:04 AM.
    07-14-2008 09:35 AM
  20. Jeremy's Avatar
    Unlock IPhone 3G Using SIM Card: iPhone 3G Unlocked with SIM Card Adapter

    Like I said it was not unlockable a few days ago but now it seems someone just came out with a way. This seems a little weird to me here with another sim. Which I'm guessing you'd have to buy since it's not using some software we all can download. I'm curious how this will all play out. Especially when the iDev team finally gets it unlocked. Who would buy something like this when you can use free software?
    Last edited by Jeremy Sikora; 07-16-2008 at 01:02 AM.
    07-15-2008 09:37 AM
  21. athreya#IM's Avatar
    way to go! i didnt have video to back it up, but i told you so on july 12th itself that it had been unlocked in India.
    07-15-2008 01:12 PM
  22. Jeremy's Avatar
    You proved nothing. The posts you were talking about on gizmodo were regarding unlocking the firmware not the phone. So why should I believe you? So you see one guy and he tells you his phone is unlocked. Great story but what proof do you have it was using this only method that was just let out today? For all you know he bought it in a country where they sell them unlocked legally.

    Unlocking is gonna happen sure, never say never. At the moment this conversation started nothing was known what so ever.

    *Edit* I'm sorry I didn't see you said CEO of some mobile company in India. That just leads me to believe he has the phone early. It will be available soon. Great possibility.
    Last edited by Jeremy Sikora; 07-15-2008 at 11:45 PM.
    07-15-2008 02:43 PM
  23. athreya#IM's Avatar
    I'm done going back and forth with you... You pointed to articles on gizmodo which refer to unlocking firmware only... make up your mind.
    yes i agree i did.at that point in time, i did not realize the difference between cracking the firmware 2.0 and the phone itself, which you clarified for me.

    what ive posted about above is something different.
    07-15-2008 11:12 PM
  24. Jeremy's Avatar
    yes i agree i did.at that point in time, i did not realize the difference between cracking the firmware 2.0 and the phone itself, which you clarified for me.

    what ive posted about above is something different.
    Then if you have more information please post it. I'd love to see it.
    07-15-2008 11:14 PM
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