1. bakron1's Avatar
    I just spent the last couple of hours fixing my nephews, neighbors and sisters Android devices and showed them how to clear the cache and modify some settings, so they would not keep getting app crashes and having to restart their devices several times a day.

    I was an early Android adapter and I have as many paid apps in my google app store as I do in my Apple app store. I remember rooting my Nexus one and putting the Cyanogen ROM on the device which gave it extra features and reduced my number of issues associated the standard ROM.

    With IOS I have never had to clear my cache, install a custom ROM or do any major tweaks to streamline my device, because I haven't had any messages saying "the app has stopped responding" or having to restart my device a couple of times a day, because the OS just works.

    Granted they don't have any custom ROM's for IOS and there are not as many niche features and tweaks as with Android, but I think this is exactly what attracts folks to Apple and IOS, the simplicity, knowing the OS is stable and the software and hardware support are second to none.

    I am not trying to put Apple on a giant pedestal here, I am a old Blackberry person who goes way back to my first palm pilot and the early Blackberry devices. I have been fortunate enough to have been involved in seeing the advancements in technology since the earl days.

    I have watched IOS evolve from having my first original aluminum model iPhone to my current iPhone X and iPhone 8 models. the one common thing Apple has done is to bring the OS into the mainstream with new features each year, but maintain the simplicity of the OS and I hope they never wonder off that path. Just my two cents worth.
    08-19-2018 01:12 PM
  2. xtremeled's Avatar
    I wish that Blackberry could have seen the future and adjusted instead of taking a hard line and waking up too late
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    08-19-2018 01:33 PM
  3. Tpence2177's Avatar
    I agree I still prefer to have the flexibility of Android, but have used iOS almost exclusively since the 5s. I did try a gs6 and turbo 2 but came back and have stayed for the past 2-3 years. I just upgraded to an 8 plus last week from a 6 plus and almost took it back right after I got it. Not because it isn't a great device. It really is, I just didn't see the speed right away from day to day tasks from my 6 plus on iOS 12 betas. I believe that to be a testament to how well apple optimizes the older devices that an almost 5 year old device can still be very smooth and not be much slower than a brand new phone.
    08-19-2018 01:48 PM
  4. scruffypig's Avatar
    I just spent the last couple of hours fixing my nephews, neighbors and sisters Android devices and showed them how to clear the cache and modify some settings, so they would not keep getting app crashes and having to restart their devices several times a day.

    I was an early Android adapter and I have as many paid apps in my google app store as I do in my Apple app store. I remember rooting my Nexus one and putting the Cyanogen ROM on the device which gave it extra features and reduced my number of issues associated the standard ROM.

    With IOS I have never had to clear my cache, install a custom ROM or do any major tweaks to streamline my device, because I haven't had any messages saying "the app has stopped responding" or having to restart my device a couple of times a day, because the OS just works.

    Granted they don't have any custom ROM's for IOS and there are not as many niche features and tweaks as with Android, but I think this is exactly what attracts folks to Apple and IOS, the simplicity, knowing the OS is stable and the software and hardware support are second to none.

    I am not trying to put Apple on a giant pedestal here, I am a old Blackberry person who goes way back to my first palm pilot and the early Blackberry devices. I have been fortunate enough to have been involved in seeing the advancements in technology since the earl days.

    I have watched IOS evolve from having my first original aluminum model iPhone to my current iPhone X and iPhone 8 models. the one common thing Apple has done is to bring the OS into the mainstream with new features each year, but maintain the simplicity of the OS and I hope they never wonder off that path. Just my two cents worth.
    I agree. I have used palm treo smartphones, Windows Mobile, Windows Phone, Android OS and iOS. IOS isn’t perfect, though I usually find a pretty easy way to do most everything I want.
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    08-19-2018 03:31 PM
  5. bakron1's Avatar
    I agree. I have used palm treo smartphones, Windows Mobile, Windows Phone, Android OS and iOS. IOS isn’t perfect, though I usually find a pretty easy way to do most everything I want.
    I remember my palm treo and I also had a couple of Windows OS phone, mainly Nokia which I thought made a nice quality device.
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    08-19-2018 06:28 PM
  6. kataran's Avatar
    I remember when even a Caveman can do it. But since I wasn’t one I dabbled on the first win smartphone then found my love of webOS but after the funeral paid for by HP I came upon iOS and the i5 and its just been getting better year after year
    Just_Me_D likes this.
    08-19-2018 06:57 PM
  7. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    I wish that Blackberry could have seen the future and adjusted instead of taking a hard line and waking up too late
    AMEN to that, and if they had, I would probably still be using a Blackberry device.
    08-19-2018 07:00 PM
  8. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    I remember my palm treo and I also had a couple of Windows OS phone, mainly Nokia which I thought made a nice quality device.
    Oh yeah......I used to use a Palm Treo 600.
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    08-19-2018 07:01 PM
  9. bakron1's Avatar
    I wish that Blackberry could have seen the future and adjusted instead of taking a hard line and waking up too late
    I loved my Blackberry and OS10 was fantastic, just to late coming to the market and didn’t have the app support they should have.

    As with you I would still be using it, I loved the Hub and Peak. I was the first person to by a z10 from T Mobile back then and loved the device, shame it ended up the way it did.
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    08-19-2018 08:44 PM
  10. ksassy's Avatar
    As a former BlackBerry lover the bite of the Apple has been better than I thought it could be.
    kataran likes this.
    08-20-2018 09:55 AM
  11. Lee_Bo's Avatar
    I loved the customization of different roms when I was using Android, but the constant tinkering and tweaking got old.

    iOS works. Period.
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    08-20-2018 10:00 AM
  12. Annie_8plus's Avatar
    I just spent the last couple of hours fixing my nephews, neighbors and sisters Android devices and showed them how to clear the cache and modify some settings, so they would not keep getting app crashes and having to restart their devices several times a day.

    I was an early Android adapter and I have as many paid apps in my google app store as I do in my Apple app store. I remember rooting my Nexus one and putting the Cyanogen ROM on the device which gave it extra features and reduced my number of issues associated the standard ROM.

    With IOS I have never had to clear my cache, install a custom ROM or do any major tweaks to streamline my device, because I haven't had any messages saying "the app has stopped responding" or having to restart my device a couple of times a day, because the OS just works.

    Granted they don't have any custom ROM's for IOS and there are not as many niche features and tweaks as with Android, but I think this is exactly what attracts folks to Apple and IOS, the simplicity, knowing the OS is stable and the software and hardware support are second to none.

    I am not trying to put Apple on a giant pedestal here, I am a old Blackberry person who goes way back to my first palm pilot and the early Blackberry devices. I have been fortunate enough to have been involved in seeing the advancements in technology since the earl days.

    I have watched IOS evolve from having my first original aluminum model iPhone to my current iPhone X and iPhone 8 models. the one common thing Apple has done is to bring the OS into the mainstream with new features each year, but maintain the simplicity of the OS and I hope they never wonder off that path. Just my two cents worth.
    Great post Ron! I couldn't agree more!
    08-20-2018 02:44 PM
  13. scruffypig's Avatar
    I remember my palm treo and I also had a couple of Windows OS phone, mainly Nokia which I thought made a nice quality device.
    My ol’ windows phone was made by Nokia and runs Windows Phone 10, which is no longer supported...
    08-20-2018 04:31 PM
  14. Quis89's Avatar
    For the most part I agree. Though I am curious as to what devices your family uses with Android? I had the S8 for around a year as my daily driver and I NEVER had to clear any cache. Nor did I experience any more restarts than I experienced with my iPhone. With the higher end Android devices, I'm not sure the old issues are a problem anymore.
    tr1ad likes this.
    08-20-2018 10:12 PM
  15. tr1ad's Avatar
    For the most part I agree. Though I am curious as to what devices your family uses with Android? I had the S8 for around a year as my daily driver and I NEVER had to clear any cache. Nor did I experience any more restarts than I experienced with my iPhone. With the higher end Android devices, I'm not sure the old issues are a problem anymore.
    Same here with my spare S8+
    08-20-2018 10:32 PM
  16. xtremeled's Avatar
    AMEN to that, and if they had, I would probably still be using a Blackberry device.
    As would I. There is a book out that chronicles the epic rise and spectacular downfall of Blackberry. It's a most informative eye opening story and after reading it, it's no wonder they failed
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    08-21-2018 01:32 AM
  17. xtremeled's Avatar
    As a former BlackBerry lover the bite of the Apple has been better than I thought it could be.
    Not like you had a choice. LOL
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    08-21-2018 01:33 AM
  18. bakron1's Avatar
    Not like you had a choice. LOL
    One of my good friends and a die hard Blackberry OS10 user finally had to give up his beloved Passport because of app support. He ended up buying a new Key2 which he loves the device, but he still misses the passport.
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    08-21-2018 05:24 AM
  19. wilber1's Avatar
    Good book on rise and fall of BlackBerry also another called "Losing The Signal" good reading if you are A former BlackBerry user .

    For myself iOS Just Works-blackberry.jpg
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    08-21-2018 06:13 AM
  20. xtremeled's Avatar
    Good book on rise and fall of BlackBerry also another called "Losing The Signal" good reading if you are A former BlackBerry user .

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    Losing the signal was the one I was referring to. I've never heard of this one. Now I'll look into getting it
    08-21-2018 05:45 PM
  21. xtremeled's Avatar
    One of my good friends and a die hard Blackberry OS10 user finally had to give up his beloved Passport because of app support. He ended up buying a new Key2 which he loves the device, but he still misses the passport.
    I'm toying with the idea of buying the Key2. It's the Android OS that is making me hesitate
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    08-21-2018 05:47 PM
  22. ivanwi11iams's Avatar
    SAME here! Also, I wish it was not so expensive. I pre-ordered the Priv, and it cost me a fortune. Then, I lost a fortune on resale.

    So, VERY hesitant do that again...

    I'm toying with the idea of buying the Key2. It's the Android OS that is making me hesitate
    08-21-2018 06:02 PM
  23. Doug B's Avatar
    I just spent the last couple of hours fixing my nephews, neighbors and sisters Android devices and showed them how to clear the cache and modify some settings, so they would not keep getting app crashes and having to restart their devices several times a day.

    I was an early Android adapter and I have as many paid apps in my google app store as I do in my Apple app store. I remember rooting my Nexus one and putting the Cyanogen ROM on the device which gave it extra features and reduced my number of issues associated the standard ROM.

    With IOS I have never had to clear my cache, install a custom ROM or do any major tweaks to streamline my device, because I haven't had any messages saying "the app has stopped responding" or having to restart my device a couple of times a day, because the OS just works.

    Granted they don't have any custom ROM's for IOS and there are not as many niche features and tweaks as with Android, but I think this is exactly what attracts folks to Apple and IOS, the simplicity, knowing the OS is stable and the software and hardware support are second to none.

    I am not trying to put Apple on a giant pedestal here, I am a old Blackberry person who goes way back to my first palm pilot and the early Blackberry devices. I have been fortunate enough to have been involved in seeing the advancements in technology since the earl days.

    I have watched IOS evolve from having my first original aluminum model iPhone to my current iPhone X and iPhone 8 models. the one common thing Apple has done is to bring the OS into the mainstream with new features each year, but maintain the simplicity of the OS and I hope they never wonder off that path. Just my two cents worth.
    Couldn’t have said it better myself. I was in the same boat as you. Started with the Treo and upgraded to blackberry. Then moved to the Nexus 1 and developed a love hate relationship. But being a techy kinda guy I enjoyed tinkering with different roms. Fast forward to today... well I just don’t have time to root and tinker with phones. iOS just works for me and I don’t have to worry about crashes (for the most part anyway). I still tinker a little with my One Plus 6 but it will probably go up for sale as soon as I get my XS Max. I just use it for my business line and with the max having dual sim I can use one phone for both. Don’t get me wrong... Android has come a long way too and I do enjoy being able to customize it but in the the simplicity of iOS keeps me rooted. Plus all of my family uses iOS as well so it was just easier to stay just for the sake of calendar appointments and iMessage. Yeah I know we could use alternative apps which would all sync between the two systems but my wife isn’t the most technologically inclined. You have no idea how long it took me to have her give up the flip phone.
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    09-17-2018 12:41 AM
  24. qbnkelt's Avatar
    Been through Audiovox Pocket PC which ran Windows to Palm Treo to BlackBerry to Android and landed on my iPhone 3GS. Have had an iPhone ever since, even when I still carried Blackberry up until I got a used Passport, which was the last BlackBerry I got.
    I finally gave up on Android with the Note 4 but got an SGS7 for work website development testing. I didn’t use it, really. Not going back to Android.
    I didn’t love iOS initially. I was using BlackBerry and it was the glory days, but when I got my iPhone 4 it clicked. I was hooked. By the time the 5s came out I completely walked away from BlackBerry as a device I used. We still used Good Enterprise which BlackBerry bought and it was a nightmare of a clunky software.
    I gave up on Android after an update (Lollipop?) rendered my Note 4 unusable. Constant issues. So I put it in the junk drawer with the BlackBerries and that was it.

    iPhones work for me. Both as personal devices and for work. Now that my agency has dropped Good and gone to Air Watch I’m completely rid of BlackBerry and I couldn’t be happier.

    For me, iPhone and iOS are the best.
    09-17-2018 04:09 AM
  25. TripleOne's Avatar
    It really does!
    I’ve enjoyed using the Pixel 2XL for the past month but I ended up going back to my X.
    09-17-2018 06:27 AM

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