1. anon(10101748)'s Avatar
    Please read before commenting, thanks! Also, don't quote me here. Just leave a response. Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

    Well like the title says...why should I stay?. I was a BlackBerry Loyalist until the App Gap became an issue. I've been an iPhone user ever since! Work iPhone 6s and personal iPhone 7. With the BlackBerry KEYone launching in the US May 31st running Android Nougat 7.1 and offering an amazing Physical Keyboard it's got me hooked.

    So maybe you'll reply and trash BlackBerry. That's okay...it is iMore, but trashing BlackBerry is easy. I want to know why I SHOULD STAY with iPhone. Not why I shouldn't get a new BlackBerry made by TCL.

    Ready, set, go...
    05-01-2017 04:40 PM
  2. Paul Ellis1's Avatar
    To be fair, no one can tell you why YOU SHOULD STAY. You should of course stay with whatever you think is best for you. People can only tell you why they choose to stay.

    Personally, I stay with iPhone for iOS. If we're all honest, most android devices are usually equipped with better hardware and specs, but iOS's security, integration, reliability and support make it the all round better device for me
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    05-01-2017 04:48 PM
  3. anon(10101748)'s Avatar
    To be fair, no one can tell you why YOU SHOULD STAY. You should of course stay with whatever you think is best for you. People can only tell you why they choose to stay.

    Personally, I stay with iPhone for iOS. If we're all honest, most android devices are usually equipped with better hardware and specs, but iOS's security, integration, reliability and support make it the all round better device for me
    I respect that and that's exactly the type of answer I'm looking for. Perhaps I should rephrase and say "If you were in my shoes why would you stay?"

    I could debate that BlackBerry DTEK App and Security of Hardened Kernel plus Nougat 7.1 is more secure than iOS but that's a whole other very technical issue. Thanks for the response.
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    05-01-2017 04:54 PM
  4. Paul Ellis1's Avatar
    Absolutely. I haven't looked into DTEK or 7.1 security so you could be right. I'm more than happy for there to be a more secure option available, it's just that iOS's security is one of the reasons I've stayed so long. Aftercare is also a big reason for me. I know it's dependent on how far away your nearest apple store is, but I have 2 within 15 miles and love that I can pop in and get a replacement or assistance without sending off etc
    05-01-2017 05:01 PM
  5. anon(10101748)'s Avatar
    Absolutely. I haven't looked into DTEK or 7.1 security so you could be right. I'm more than happy for there to be a more secure option available, it's just that iOS's security is one of the reasons I've stayed so long. Aftercare is also a big reason for me. I know it's dependent on how far away your nearest apple store is, but I have 2 within 15 miles and love that I can pop in and get a replacement or assistance without sending off etc
    Agree. iOS security is great. Again it's very technical to discuss through text in a forum. I live in Philly area and have a lot of Apple Store options within 30-45 minutes at most. It's almost unfair!

    PA
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    05-01-2017 05:21 PM
  6. eve6er69's Avatar
    It depends on how invested in iOS you are. If you're not invested in it then it doesn't hurt to try a new phone. I left blackberry for android and then iPhone. I may flip flop between this and a android device because I'm not totally invested in iOS. I can switch back and forth and the only thing I would miss is iMessage.
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    05-01-2017 06:07 PM
  7. BigBadWulf's Avatar
    why I SHOULD STAY with iPhone.
    Because you want to?
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    05-01-2017 06:46 PM
  8. jmr1015's Avatar
    It's about what you find most important.

    iOS vs Android
    Full touch vs physical keyboard

    I will say, having been a BlackBerry fan for many many years, that Apple's customer service and support can't be touched by BlackBerry. But beyond that, everything else is personal tastes, and no one can tell you what you should want or need.
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    05-01-2017 06:50 PM
  9. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Please read before commenting, thanks! Also, don't quote me here. Just leave a response. Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

    Well like the title says...why should I stay?. I was a BlackBerry Loyalist until the App Gap became an issue. I've been an iPhone user ever since! Work iPhone 6s and personal iPhone 7. With the BlackBerry KEYone launching in the US May 31st running Android Nougat 7.1 and offering an amazing Physical Keyboard it's got me hooked.

    So maybe you'll reply and trash BlackBerry. That's okay...it is iMore, but trashing BlackBerry is easy. I want to know why I SHOULD STAY with iPhone. Not why I shouldn't get a new BlackBerry made by TCL.

    Ready, set, go...
    The majority of the members here at iMore will not trash talk you for wanting to go with the Blackberry KEYone. I'll be the first to tell you to go and get it, if that's what you want. You've have both an iPhone 6S and an iPhone 7 so you should know the pros and cons of using the iPhone and thus, if you have to ask why you should stay with the iPhone, your mind is all but made up to get the Blackberry KEYone. So with that in mind, get the Blackberry KEYone and be happy with it. It's your money, and your prerogative so do what YOU think is best for "YOU"!
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    05-01-2017 07:00 PM
  10. anon(10101748)'s Avatar
    The majority of the members here at iMore will not trash talk you for wanting to go with the Blackberry KEYone. I'll be the first to tell you to go and get it, if that's what you want. You've have both an iPhone 6S and an iPhone 7 so you should know the pros and cons of using the iPhone and thus, if you have to ask why you should stay with the iPhone, your mind is all but made up to get the Blackberry KEYone. So with that in mind, get the Blackberry KEYone and be happy with it. It's your money, and your prerogative so do what YOU think is best for "YOU"!
    Appreciate the transparency and get where you're coming from. My mind certainly isn't made up. I guess I didn't maybe pose the question right. Like, you're right as I have a 6s and 7 and know the pro's and con's but I'm not an iPhone expert. I think based on current iPhone iteration I'll probably give the KEYone a shot and hold onto the 7 until I'm certain it's for me. Ultimately I wish I knew about the upcoming iPhone devices. Not knowing could actually keep me on iOS til the fall releases. Definitely a hard decision or I wouldn't have floated it out.

    And I didn't mean trash talk it seriously. Believe it or not there are so many iPhone users like myself who came from BlackBerry. There are more Android users that trash talk BlackBerry now saying it's not a real Android, which is just odd to me. I truly enjoy iOS and love the little things. Like I've posted about never leaving iPhone unless they get rid of the mute/ring button because I'm to lazy to use Android and pull down menus! I really just don't know. Some people say it trivial even care but I'm a cell phone and sneaker collector. Oh well. But thanks for responding.
    05-01-2017 07:49 PM
  11. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Appreciate the transparency and get where you're coming from. My mind certainly isn't made up. I guess I didn't maybe pose the question right. Like, you're right as I have a 6s and 7 and know the pro's and con's but I'm not an iPhone expert. I think based on current iPhone iteration I'll probably give the KEYone a shot and hold onto the 7 until I'm certain it's for me. Ultimately I wish I knew about the upcoming iPhone devices. Not knowing could actually keep me on iOS til the fall releases. Definitely a hard decision or I wouldn't have floated it out.

    And I didn't mean trash talk it seriously. Believe it or not there are so many iPhone users like myself who came from BlackBerry. There are more Android users that trash talk BlackBerry now saying it's not a real Android, which is just odd to me. I truly enjoy iOS and love the little things. Like I've posted about never leaving iPhone unless they get rid of the mute/ring button because I'm to lazy to use Android and pull down menus! I really just don't know. Some people say it trivial even care but I'm a cell phone and sneaker collector. Oh well. But thanks for responding.
    I understand and I am one of the many members who came over from Blackberry. Heck, I've stated on numerous occasions that I was a die hard Blackberry fanboy. I really was. As for not knowing what to expect with respect to the next iPhone, join the crowd because all we have right now are rumors and speculations. Anyway, I agree with you keeping both your iPhone 7 and testing out the Blackberry KEYone. That is indeed The smart option, in my opinion. In the meantime, Update us on what you've decided to do afterwards and maybe post a review of the KEYone. Take care...
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    05-01-2017 08:29 PM
  12. Anilu7's Avatar
    I agree with the posters above. I used an iPhone 4, went to BlackBerry and now back to iOS with a 6S plus (coming from a Passport i like big phones). I'm also intrigued by the KEYone, having had the good fortune (and fun) of trying it out at a CrackBerry Meetup.
    It's a solid phone - good keyboard, all the apps you want from Google Play and awesome battery life. Mind you, the 6S plus battery is the longest-lasting of any phone I've ever used.
    It's really up to you. If you like a physical keyboard and Android (with BlackBerry touches) then certainly get one. If you've tried Android and don't like it then hold off. Basically since you've used BlackBerry before that's (to me) the key issue (no pun intended lol).
    05-01-2017 10:37 PM
  13. Matty's Avatar
    The first reason for me to stay would be the Eco-system. While the Blackberry does have the latest version of Android and has all the Apps you want. Your current iPhone 7 does everything you want as well, so why change?.
    Obviously the iPhone does not have a physical keyboard but unless you REALLY want one, its not that big of a deal. For me, i have to have a physical keyboard so it would be a deal breaker.
    The next would be speed and performance, the iPhone loads apps very quickly and even on the latest Android 835 processor, Apple iPhones still win when it comes to loading times.
    The next for me would be the camera. the iPhone camera is simply gorgeous and hard to beat, especially with its F1.8 aperture now. If you bundle all these things together. You end up with a product that has an all round great experience and pleasure to use.

    Posted via a Blackberry device.
    05-02-2017 01:42 AM
  14. wilber1's Avatar
    For me it's a question if you want to carry a device around with a physical keyboard that is taller than a iPhone (149.3) and how much you use the keyboard of course I never liked the Android system and ISO has so much going for it with Apps and frequent updates, with the lack of support I could not see me going back to BlackBerry however the KEYone does look like a very nice device , maybe wait till all the reviews are in and it's released in North America to make your decision Best of luck, and remember Apple has some big things coming with their Iphone 8 .
    05-02-2017 06:24 AM
  15. ol_jackburton's Avatar
    TBH, it really does not matter, make the change and if you hate it then switch back. I recently made the move from iOS to Android and i have not really ran into any real issues. There have been a few little things i miss and am still trying to find a way to do those on android. Overall i have enjoyed the switch and the fun of android.

    All the companies have big things coming in their next phone and when that one comes out the next one will have big things coming, it really does not matter, just pick on and go and if it does not work switch back.
    05-02-2017 07:20 AM
  16. libra89's Avatar
    I really think you should give it a try since it's so different and see how that goes for you. Just hold on to your 7 as you said while doing said trial.
    05-02-2017 07:26 AM
  17. tr1ad's Avatar
    I'd give it a try... That's the beauty of consumer power.

    I would also think that most of us came from BlackBerry, and the app issue left us in the dust hence the switch (of course with options as well).

    If these phones weren't so expensive after currency conversion in my country (Sim free unlocked) I'd try them all!
    Example:
    Unlocked 7+ 128GB costs 1250 USD
    Unlocked S8+ 1300 USD when available
    Oneplus 3T 64GB 580 USD
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    05-02-2017 07:39 AM
  18. Damien_Eternal's Avatar
    I like many others here was a diehard Blackberry fanboy for the longest time. It wasnt until their app support and everything else seemed to just all but fall off the face of the earth that I switched to android, then to iPhone. Now that they are running android on many of their devices, they are probably much better than they used to be. However it would take them coming out with something rather impressive to get me to go back to them from iPhone (or any other android device for that matter).
    05-02-2017 11:33 AM
  19. Hendri Hendri's Avatar
    I saw the review for keyone, oh that blackberry logo, little red star, hub and keyboard, really bring back old sweet memories

    Here's my thought if I were you :

    The keyboard is cool, as always, but it's kinda thick compare to your iphone 6s / 7, no ?

    Then the os support, how long or many years do you think it will get support / update ?

    Battery life will it be more less the same with iphone ? (Not so sure android os battery management is better than iphone, or maybe with bigger battery capacity, it will be the same)

    Performance 3gb RAM, sure this will not slow down the phone performance for long time usage ? (Not happening in ios)

    Anyway, blackberry used to be my "used till damage" phone, but now, i don't know
    05-02-2017 12:21 PM
  20. cwbcpa's Avatar
    You should stay because the iPhone works for you. You should buy the KeyOne because it works for you or you want to find out if it works for you. Everyone is different and both answers are just fine.

    I loved every BlackBerry I ever had (not the Storm) and I still wish things had gone differently with them, but I am not going back even with it running Android. It's not for me. That doesn't mean it's not for you though.
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    05-02-2017 12:25 PM
  21. bluesqueen23's Avatar
    I have an iPhone 7 as my personal device and a Blackberry Priv as my work device. I'll keep using my iPhone 7 and sell my Priv to purchase the KeyOne for my business.
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    05-02-2017 01:33 PM
  22. anon(5630457)'s Avatar
    I'm not sure why we should convince you to stay. It seems like you've already made up your mind.
    05-02-2017 02:36 PM
  23. vimagreg's Avatar
    Is it possible to keep both? If yes, than give it a shot. Nobody here will mock you or BB, this is iMore not CB, people here on majority is not that much fanatic for the brand.

    I will buy K1 eventually just to try the new pkb and see if it'll be as good as my Passport one. But will maintain my iPhone 7 Plus, too, in case my repulsive feelings about Android scream loudly than my curiosity about new device.
    05-02-2017 04:31 PM
  24. zephyr613's Avatar
    Having read these postings, I have to say it is very refreshing to see how polite and constructive you guys are. Let's just say it isn't the same on sister forums...

    Having said that, I am not an IPhone user, but I do support them in the workplace from a Security perspective. I myself carry 2 phones, both Blackberry but that is by choice - I can have any phone I want for work, just went with the PRIV.

    From a support perspective, I see how Apple is WAY ahead of other vendors regarding phone/HW replacement. I really don't care for the lack of the option to delay an OS update to see if the bugs are worked out, but our users seem to be fine with it until their device goes off the rails.

    The other issue I have seen a tremendous amount is both battery (well known) but more significantly, the issue with IOS and Exchange and O365. The native email client on IOS is filled with bugs as in duplicate calendar entries, multiple calendar invites etc.

    Again, the device choice is up to you (and just to state, I don't have a dog in this fight) and I am "patiently" waiting for the KEYOne to be available in the states as I am supposed to get a demo unit to beat on, but my understanding from people who already have the KEYOne is that the major pluses are the Battery life, it is running "N" and of course the keyboard.

    Best of luck in whatever you decide, but please keep us informed!
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    05-03-2017 06:58 AM
  25. pkcable's Avatar
    Since you need 2 phones anyways why NOT have them be 2 different platforms? This way you get the best of both worlds! You will still have iOS via your work iPhone but now you will have the latest version of Android via the BlackBerry along with that iconic keyboard we all know and love! What's to lose?
    libra89 and anon(10101748) like this.
    05-03-2017 10:02 AM
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