1. kch50428's Avatar
    225,000 pirates stealing apps that got hacked is a big # to me. I like to think that app piracy is a problem for other platforms. But this is a decent #.
    In the universe of total iPhone users it's nothing more than a thimble of sand is to the Sahara.
    09-03-2015 01:54 PM
  2. HankAZ's Avatar
    To be honest. you have to try pretty hard (or just be looking to steal any software that you can get your hands on) to get this malware. And again, in all honesty, if you're stealing software, you deserve to be infected. Period. No warning would be sufficient to stop that behavior.

    No matter how many times you repeat your mantra, it's simply not true.
    This is a Red Herring. I have zero idea how you went from what I said to what you did other than to distract the topic at hand.
    It's not a red herring. You previously stated that jailbroken devices were all being hacked. My response was simply that those who were affected by the issue you are trying to raise as mainstream were all involved with pirating iOS software via the jailbreak process - using repositories that were extremely dubious at best, and downright criminal - the purpose of their existence was to share warez and other pirate booty.

    Climb down off your high horse and view the entire situation in perspective.
    09-03-2015 02:22 PM
  3. claustin's Avatar
    This is a non-issue. Pirates reap what they sow. This doesn't effect 99% of iOS users, and only effects dirty pirates among jailbreak users, which, depending on how many jailbreakers you think are out there, is either a small percentage to a modest chunk. You steal apps, you get what's coming to you. I'll be jailbreaking my iOS 9 devices as soon as possible, but I won't be stealing apps or installing shady repos, so I'm not worried about it. To somehow think that iMore is glossing this "news" over is laughable.
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    09-03-2015 04:00 PM
  4. Scatabrain's Avatar
    Yeah I just can't see articles like this on iMore. At least they are not misleading headlines at this point.

    09-03-2015 04:52 PM
  5. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    I would suggest that number has dropped a lot since 7 and 8. It's getting to be more of a pain and many of the so called 'missing features' is getting smaller. 225,000 pirates stealing apps that got hacked is a big # to me. I like to think that app piracy is a problem for other platforms. But this is a decent #.
    It may have dropped...in fact, I'd say that is a pretty logical assumption given the amount of features added to iOS natively that people regularly jailbroke their devices for. That said, even if it dropped to half of that (which I doubt), the number is still insignificant when looking at total %'s. I mean you could say 100 users is a big number to you...it doesn't make it generally accurate when comparing totals vs. those affected. If the number was even 20-25%, I'd just back away from this discussion entirely (in terms of what me and you are debating), but it's not even close. It is factually a tiny % of jailbreakers...
    09-03-2015 04:52 PM
  6. Scatabrain's Avatar
    It may have dropped...in fact, I'd say that is a pretty logical assumption given the amount of features added to iOS natively that people regularly jailbroke their devices for. That said, even if it dropped to half of that (which I doubt), the number is still insignificant when looking at total %'s. I mean you could say 100 users is a big number to you...it doesn't make it generally accurate when comparing totals vs. those affected. If the number was even 20-25%, I'd just back away from this discussion entirely (in terms of what me and you are debating), but it's not even close. It is factually a tiny % of jailbreakers...
    If I say 100 is a lot, you are free to call me out. I couldn't defend that.

    6% isn't really the important #. 225,000 is a real #. There is no speculation and it is a big hit.

    I am curious to how much of this type of MalWare is on Android. It is easier to rip off an app on android and basically remove barriers for install to anyone. I wonder if that makes Android less of a target since broken apps are easier to get - side loading ok etc. I would think Jailbreak would be more prevalent on Android in general.

    I heard once awhile back that a paid Android app is download by 7+ times for every 1 paid. Cudo's to Apple for their system.
    09-03-2015 05:23 PM
  7. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    I heard once awhile back that a paid Android app is download by 7+ times for every 1 paid.
    Probably because of Blackberry
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    09-03-2015 05:40 PM
  8. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    If I say 100 is a lot, you are free to call me out. I couldn't defend that.

    6% isn't really the important #. 225,000 is a real #. There is no speculation and it is a big hit.
    You're telling me that the % isn't the really important number here only because it shows the reality of how small the amount of people affected was...you're stuck on 225,000 because without context, it seems like some incredibly high number, but the reality of it is, it isn't.
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    09-03-2015 06:23 PM
  9. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    ....Everyone is aware there is risk in most actions. Virtually everyone is able to be hacked. If that makes one stupid, it includes all of us....
    Yep
    09-03-2015 07:11 PM
  10. Scatabrain's Avatar
    Yep
    Just saw this thread on iMore home page. Every time I see this, it's Just Me D posting-then bam its on iMore. Now that's power!
    09-04-2015 08:12 AM
  11. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    Just saw this thread on iMore home page. Every time I see this, it's Just Me D posting-then bam its on iMore. Now that's power!
    It was there yesterday, too. Your last post was featured as well as mine and Sean's.

    OP made a hot-a$$ thread apparently.
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    09-04-2015 10:31 AM
  12. jclif's Avatar
    Since iMore cannot be trusted with news sources, for those that care:

    I'm sure you are aware of the other sites you could peruse if you don't like the content being covered on this one...
    09-04-2015 11:33 AM
  13. natasftw's Avatar
    1) Then this site has the opportunity to correctly identify the issues and what is going on.

    You're confusing "opportunity" with "obligation." I know they both start the same. But, they have entirely different meanings. There's no real value in that opportunity. You have the opportunity to hear out Jehovah's Witness missionaries as they come to your door. Does that mean you should engage in the conversation?

    2) Do you give waiters your banking passwords and any and all keyboard input as well?

    This is a rather useless argument. It's essentially "Oh yeah!? Well they can take your money with your banking passwords just as easily as they can with your credit card." You're not showing a much greater level of risk. In both cases, there is risk involved. Being irrationally concerned about one while not even considering the other shows agenda rather than legitimate concern.

    3) Jailbreaking requires a security hole to exploit to get that jailbreak. ALL jailbreaking is inherently dangerous. You install applications NOT checked by apple and hence can have information mining capabilities. iMore has the opportunity to remedy this ignorance, just like the bending crap. You may think this is a non-issue but not every iPhone user is a techie.

    Here's some ignorance on your part. Yes. Jailbreaking requires a security issue to be exploited in order to gain root access. You're pretending phones checked by apple, or google for that matter, are automatically secure while ignoring the OS is where the security hole exists in the first place. Please learn what "hence" means. You didn't use it accurately in your grand argument.

    4) If jailbreaking is not risky then Apple should be ok with it, no? The second sentence you then completely contradict yourself. iMore has a separate forum for jailbreaking and hence indirectly support it. As for the last sentence, again, stop with the false analogy fallacies.

    The first question is an asinine argument. Apple provides a mechanism for the phone to be locked to a carrier. It's not risky to change cell carriers. So, why would Apple provide a means to prevent this? Do you see how that logic sounds when it's applied to something that doesn't fit your agenda? There are a variety of reasons Apple could be against jailbreaking. The most logical has nothing to do with risk and everything to do with branding. Apple is very big on branding. It's at the heart of what they do. When you jailbreak, you get to leave the ecosystem, to some extent. In doing this, you move away from the branding. At this point, your experience doesn't match what they desire and this can turn into word of mouth advertising they don't agree with, both good and bad. Sending pictures carries risk. A phone without a lockscreen password carries risk. Apple allows a lot of things that bring risk. They're not trying to stop risk. They're, as they're notorious for doing, worrying about brand.

    Your second argument is even weaker. It's silly to point out there's a jailbreak forum and then use that to suggest that there is an obligation to report on every given topic related to jailbreaking. By that token, you're suggesting they're obligated to report on ways to pirate software because that's a subset of jailbreaking. Forums are generally self policing. Users will create threads and those that interest other users will remain towards the top. Others will fall off. If you're expecting a site to increase views in these threads, you're not understanding how a forum works.

    Ultimately, it's rather obvious you've got a bit of an agenda here. Your arguments are weak to the point that you can't seriously believe what you're saying. You're trying to stir things up. It's adorable. But, you're not 12. It's time to start acting like it.
    09-05-2015 10:33 AM
  14. NadaAddict's Avatar
    In large part, the "need" to jailbreak has been severely lessened by the advances within iOS. Many of the reasons to JB are no longer necessary because they're "baked in" to iOS.
    Exactly. ..same with android. I haven't rooted a phone since my Evo4G

    Posted via the iMore App for Android
    09-05-2015 02:31 PM
  15. sangs's Avatar
    So that's really the point of you starting the thread? To call iMore hypocrites or something? What a waste of time. Will be ignoring your threads from now on.
    Oh no. And to think I was just back to feeling good about myself.
    09-11-2015 06:55 AM
  16. qbnkelt's Avatar
    Purposely altering your phone to defeat safeguards put in place by Apple to stop this very type of thing does not equal news. It equals stupidity along the lines of 225,000 people putting Nitrous Oxide on their 1989 Honda Civic, then writing about how the engines blew, and then calling that news. You know what thats called? NO DUH ...
    I have never agreed with you more.


    Sent from my GORGEOUS, SEXY, AWESOME Gold 128G iPhone 6
    09-11-2015 07:58 AM
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