1. qbnkelt's Avatar
    This whole business thing and the blinking light is a crock. Man folks are getting business done everyday without that light.
    The big influence are those people in tents outside of every Apple Store a month before release.
    There's no consortium of business professionals banging their fist on a desk for a blinking light.


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    I have yet to participate in a meeting where it was OK to look at your blinkity blink light and then where it was permissible to answer it. As a matter of fact, many of the meetings I attend enforce a strict NO PHONE policy.

    Yet another BlackBerrian acolyte crutch that bears no semblance to reality.


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    04-14-2015 05:32 AM
  2. bakron1's Avatar
    As I had stated, it was just a suggestion and that's it. It's funny that I see folks on these forums who where once active on the Blackberry forums and are quick to discredit the once iconic brand???

    I have always respected all the other competitors out there along with my own business competition and learned from their mistakes.

    The one thing I have learned after 19 years of self employment is you better have an open mind and be willing to adapt!

    Just because you have a pile of cash and things are going good at the moment doesn't mean you stop listening to your customers ideas. Just a philosophy I have have lived by.
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    04-14-2015 05:48 AM
  3. Illustrator Joe's Avatar
    Don't be surprised when it's not.
    Just like larger screens and even larger screens. 3rd party keyboards and widgets. Those are totally never going to happen!
    04-14-2015 07:29 AM
  4. qbnkelt's Avatar
    As I had stated, it was just a suggestion and that's it. It's funny that I see folks on these forums who where once active on the Blackberry forums and are quick to discredit the once iconic brand???

    I have always respected all the other competitors out there along with my own business competition and learned from their mistakes.

    The one thing I have learned after 19 years of self employment is you better have an open mind and be willing to adapt!

    Just because you have a pile of cash and things are going good at the moment doesn't mean you stop listening to your customers ideas. Just a philosophy I have have lived by.
    If you're referring to me, yes I was once active on CB. I once used BlackBerry as a primary device. Then as a secondary. Then as a barely used spare on a spare line. BlackBerry ceased to be compelling or even useful. I evolved beyond it. I found that my iPhones were much more invaluable to me and regretted all the money, time, and energy wasted on trying to make BlackBerry work for me. So now that I've evolved past it, I don't feel the need to revisit the past to bring features that hold no value. Because I don't need the crutch they provided. And I discredit arguments that are illogical. Just as I discredited the iSheep and tools not toys inanity in CB, I discredit the notion in iMore that an LED is a necessity in a business environment. And I point out that in meetings I attend and those I chair, checking phones is not allowed, making LEDs irrelevant.

    There IS life beyond BlackBerry.

    As to the concept of an LED being a desired feature, people have offered an opinion. No amount of repeating a point of view will change the responses already given. Do I want it? No. Do I want Apple wasting effort on it? No.

    Apple doesn't need to adapt to integrate features on other phones. They need to listen to their customers. And improve on the Apple vision. Not incorporate a feature from a company that holds a fraction of its previous user base.

    Let's revisit your OP.

    I for one would love for Apple to incorporate a LED on the next generation iPhone. Coming from the Blackberry world, I found that when I am in a meeting and have the ringer on my device turned off, having an LED blinking to indicate I have a message would be nice?

    I really don't think Apple with ever have one on there devices, I would be this first one to embrace it, if it ever does materialize.
    Here is my response: no, it harkens back to a platform that I've evolved beyond.


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    Last edited by qbnkelt; 04-14-2015 at 08:21 AM.
    04-14-2015 08:10 AM
  5. Illustrator Joe's Avatar
    Consensus from gathered responses?
    Blinky light evokes APPLE RAGE!!!!!!
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    04-14-2015 08:29 AM
  6. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    As I had stated, it was just a suggestion and that's it. It's funny that I see folks on these forums who where once active on the Blackberry forums and are quick to discredit the once iconic brand???
    Situations and needs change over time. No big deal...

    I have always respected all the other competitors out there along with my own business competition and learned from their mistakes.
    Smart and wise...

    The one thing I have learned after 19 years of self employment is you better have an open mind and be willing to adapt!
    Don't forget about the ability to read trends...

    Just because you have a pile of cash and things are going good at the moment doesn't mean you stop listening to your customers ideas. Just a philosophy I have have lived by.
    I don't think Apple is doing that and I highly doubt the people who want to see a Blackberry-like LED on the iPhone are among the majority in regard to Apple's customer base.
    04-14-2015 08:31 AM
  7. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    If you're referring to me, yes I was once active on CB. I once used BlackBerry as a primary device. Then as a secondary. Then as a barely used spare on a spare line. BlackBerry ceased to be compelling or even useful. I evolved beyond it. I found that my iPhones were much more invaluable to me and regretted all the money, time, and energy wasted on trying to make BlackBerry work for me. So now that I've evolved past it, I don't feel the need to revisit the past to bring features that hold no value. Because I don't need the crutch they provided. And I discredit arguments that are illogical. Just as I discredited the iSheep and tools not toys inanity in CB, I discredit the notion in iMore that an LED is a necessity in a business environment. And I point out that in meetings I attend and those I chair, checking phones is not allowed, making LEDs irrelevant.

    There IS life beyond BlackBerry.

    As to the concept of an LED being a desired feature, people have offered an opinion. No amount of repeating a point of view will change the responses already given. Do I want it? No. Do I want Apple wasting effort on it? No.

    Apple doesn't need to adapt to integrate features on other phones. They need to listen to their customers. And improve on the Apple vision. Not incorporate a feature from a company that holds a fraction of its previous user base.

    Let's revisit your OP.



    Here is my response: no, it harkens back to a platform that I've evolved beyond.


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    Breathe....
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    04-14-2015 08:32 AM
  8. qbnkelt's Avatar
    Breathe....


    Wish I could. My allergies are killing me.


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    04-14-2015 08:34 AM
  9. Just_Me_D's Avatar


    Wish I could. My allergies are killing me.


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    I hear you. Other than my car being covered in pollen, I'm otherwise unaffected....
    04-14-2015 08:50 AM
  10. sting7k's Avatar
    No way a phone without a notification LED will be taken seriously. -Every iPhone hater in 2007.

    It's now 2015 and the iPhone seems to be doing pretty well without that LED.
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    04-14-2015 09:18 AM
  11. qbnkelt's Avatar
    No way a phone without a notification LED will be taken seriously. -Every iPhone hater in 2007.

    It's now 2015 and the iPhone seems to be doing pretty well without that LED.
    Right up there with iPhone will never be used in secure agencies.

    Yah......

    Actually that sounds like one of Mike and Bill's famous quotes.

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    04-14-2015 09:25 AM
  12. kch50428's Avatar
    Blinking LED-keep-calm-let-go-40.png
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    04-14-2015 09:31 AM
  13. sting7k's Avatar
    Right up there with iPhone will never be used in secure agencies.

    Yah......

    Actually that sounds like one of Mike and Bill's famous quotes.

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    I didn't see this thread until yesterday and all I could do was LOL.
    04-14-2015 11:08 AM
  14. bakron1's Avatar
    If you're referring to me, yes I was once active on CB. I once used BlackBerry as a primary device. Then as a secondary. Then as a barely used spare on a spare line. BlackBerry ceased to be compelling or even useful. I evolved beyond it. I found that my iPhones were much more invaluable to me and regretted all the money, time, and energy wasted on trying to make BlackBerry work for me. So now that I've evolved past it, I don't feel the need to revisit the past to bring features that hold no value. Because I don't need the crutch they provided. And I discredit arguments that are illogical. Just as I discredited the iSheep and tools not toys inanity in CB, I discredit the notion in iMore that an LED is a necessity in a business environment. And I point out that in meetings I attend and those I chair, checking phones is not allowed, making LEDs irrelevant.

    There IS life beyond BlackBerry.

    As to the concept of an LED being a desired feature, people have offered an opinion. No amount of repeating a point of view will change the responses already given. Do I want it? No. Do I want Apple wasting effort on it? No.

    Apple doesn't need to adapt to integrate features on other phones. They need to listen to their customers. And improve on the Apple vision. Not incorporate a feature from a company that holds a fraction of its previous user base.

    Let's revisit your OP.



    Here is my response: no, it harkens back to a platform that I've evolved beyond.


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    No I wasn't referring to you directly and I have always shown respect to everyone for whatever platform they use.
    04-14-2015 11:09 AM
  15. qbnkelt's Avatar
    No I wasn't referring to you directly and I have always shown respect to everyone for whatever platform they use.
    Yes you always have been extremely reasonable and measured in all the threads I read you on while I was at CB. I always enjoyed your point of view.

    We just disagree on this one point.


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    04-14-2015 11:15 AM
  16. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    As I had stated, it was just a suggestion and that's it. It's funny that I see folks on these forums who where once active on the Blackberry forums and are quick to discredit the once iconic brand???

    I have always respected all the other competitors out there along with my own business competition and learned from their mistakes.

    The one thing I have learned after 19 years of self employment is you better have an open mind and be willing to adapt!

    Just because you have a pile of cash and things are going good at the moment doesn't mean you stop listening to your customers ideas. Just a philosophy I have have lived by.
    You're not asking for adaption...you're asking for a prehistoric form of notification to be added to a new age product that doesn't need it. You're clamoring on and on about how companies better listen to their customer base to stay relevant by referencing a company that did the exact opposite and finds itself circling the drain quicker and quicker each year.

    What you're essentially doing is hanging on for dear life to tiny threads of the past that you liked...and because YOU liked them, you assume there is a legitimate user base that feels the same way that could sway a company like Apple to add said feature (regardless of how obsolete it has become over the years).

    My advice would be to move on...but as we see with every thread about these silly LED notification lights, people like to pretend their own personal preferences and wants represent a larger sector of user than they actually do...so this will just keep popping up here and there.

    Just like larger screens and even larger screens. 3rd party keyboards and widgets. Those are totally never going to happen!
    Totally different scenario. Every user knew that larger screens were coming, you can even read through each generation of iPhone how users saw it coming but were still content with the size they had...the consumer base finally demanded such and it happened...same with custom keyboards.

    And widgets? lol...what widgets? What the iPhone has in the notification center is hardly a widget in the way people have grown accustomed to on android based devices.

    It's not even remotely the same scenario as this LED light notification thing...there is no movement for such a "feature" in the smart phone market, it's just a tiny % of blackberry users who found it useful at one time who want to see it brought back.

    I mean you still have people who want tape players in their cars...I'm sure to them it's important, but thankfully the market has moved on from such things.
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    04-14-2015 11:45 AM
  17. kch50428's Avatar
    Where's the 8-track deck in the new Ferrari!!
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    04-14-2015 11:49 AM
  18. qbnkelt's Avatar
    Where's the 8-tracki deck in the new Ferrari!!
    I could play my mothers 8-track Rumours tape on my 2014 car!!!!! Wouldn't that be cool?!!?!!! Original music on original medium!!!!! YAY!!!!!!


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    04-14-2015 11:57 AM
  19. Illustrator Joe's Avatar
    Why do we always degenerate to a terrible car metaphor? Every damn time.

    My comparison to widgets, 3rd party keyboards and larger screens is more closely related to the topic than a tape deck in a car. A tape deck is old tech replaced by new tech of basically the same purpose. A led light is an additional feature (that could be turned off by the consumer).

    Also from my experience people that have used Android and switched mostly miss the LED it is not the ridiculous 1% Blackberry users like you have stated.

    Personally I moved away from Android and I miss the LED. I have never used blackberry. I think the iPhone can and would benefit from it but I would not want it to be the same stale blinky light on the other platforms, I would want them to something different, innovative and beautiful with it.

    Do I miss it enough to switch back, not yet, It is not a game changer but it would be welcome.

    I will continue to want it, continue to miss it and continue to voice my want for it.

    I have frequented this Apple forum for a while and others like it. The same thing has happened over and over:
    -We don't need a bigger screen 3.5 in, is perfect!
    -We don't need a bigger screen 4 in. is perfect!
    -We don't need 3rd party keyboards the stock one is perfect!
    -We don't need 720p or 1080p our pixel density is enough!
    -We don't need actionable notifications!

    All I am saying is even though it is not the most popular opinion amongst you iMore Elite don't count it out.
    Last edited by Illustrator Joe; 04-14-2015 at 12:58 PM.
    04-14-2015 12:41 PM
  20. Les74's Avatar
    Why do we always degenerate to a terrible car metaphor? Every damn time.
    Terrible? Seems relevant to me.
    04-14-2015 12:47 PM
  21. Illustrator Joe's Avatar
    Terrible? Seems relevant to me.
    OK it's not terrible and from his personal point of view it may work. But it is a car metaphor every damn time.. Come up with something new.

    And for the record I am not trying to discredit anything that Sean, qb or kch are trying to say. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I just wish they would admit that the amount of people that want this feature could very well be much much more than 1% of blackberry users because in that specific circumstance I can assure you they are wrong.
    04-14-2015 01:01 PM
  22. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    OK it's not terrible and from his personal point of view it may work. But it is a car metaphor every damn time.. Come up with something new.

    And for the record I am not trying to discredit anything that Sean, qb or kch are trying to say. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I just wish they would admit that the amount of people that want this feature could very well be much much more than 1% of blackberry users because in that specific circumstance I can assure you they are wrong.
    I like cars, so I use car metaphors...don't like it? Tough sh*t. It also clearly got the point across to you, and you understood it quite well (regardless of how much you're tired of seeing car metaphors), so in terms of functionality, it was quite useful. Just like the tape deck was replaced by newer technology, so has this idea of a notification light with the slew of things that new age smart phones can do to let you know you have a notification or message. Adding a light to the phone, with the sole purpose of notifying you of something, is a redundancy that is simply unneeded, and negates the technology that has evolved over the years to eliminate the need for such a thing.

    I used the 1% number to represent a tiny number...is it 1%? I have no damn clue honestly, nor do I care to dig up the numbers to accurately represent what the actual demand reflects. What do I know? The demand is tiny, and always has been...otherwise we would have seen it on the iPhone by now (because like you said yourself, Apple follows consumer demand trends...bigger screens, etc etc etc).

    Maybe Apple will, one day, add some kind of notification light to the iPhone...maybe Apple will add furry arms to the iPhone so that people can snuggle with it at night. I can't tell you for sure that neither of those things will happen, but in my opinion, I'm pretty damn sure they won't.
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    04-14-2015 01:11 PM
  23. Illustrator Joe's Avatar
    I for one would love some fuzzy arms to comfort me in the fact my life doesn't have enough blinky lights.
    Until then... I guess I have this.
    Blinking LED-images.jpeg
    04-14-2015 01:20 PM
  24. iEd's Avatar
    Mobile/Smartphone tech has moved on.
    Their is so much rich content available on a device the norm is that people are constantly or frequently checking their device.
    When BB was all the rage what was their to see? Nothing. So a notification light was a nice feature.

    Now that mobile devices are featuring hi tech cameras multiple gigs of ram and thin profiles internal space is at a premium.
    Why in world would you sacrifice space for a light when you can have some new camera lens technology or memory technology or whatever occupying much needed space.

    The light advocates never want to address this factor or admit that it's a reasonable reason why there is no light.
    I never hear any acceptance that there is no light and as to why there is no light.
    It's always I want a light without any concerns of the logistics like a child stomping his feet.
    If I was designing a smartphone and I had to decide on using a certain size chip that makes the board bigger but will make my phone perform better vs a light. I'm choosing the chip.
    Battery life and performance that's what people want not a light.




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    04-14-2015 01:42 PM
  25. Illustrator Joe's Avatar
    But I do want a light. I do not want to have to check my phone at all times. I do not get an insane amount of notifications, but when I do they are usually important to me. At the end of the day I miss more of those on my iPhone than I every did on any of my android devices.
    You guys don't want it. I get that but PLEASE don't discredit the users that do by calling them "stomping children" and claiming their is no logical reason why they say they want what they want.

    But if it comes down to 2gb of RAM or a Notification LED I would go for the 2gb of RAM in a heartbeat. That is my most requested change to the phone in it's current state.

    -Screw the advanced camera
    -Screw the 2 mm less thickness
    -Screw the LED light

    I want 2gb ram.

    Can we agree on that? Can we agree that 2gb of ram though not completely necessary for iOS 8 in it's current state would be very welcomed in the 6s?
    04-14-2015 01:55 PM
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