1. qbnkelt's Avatar
    Only teasing, I still like classic country, was a big part of my life growing up, Waylon, Willie, Hank Jr, Don Williams, etc..
    See? Now I want Johnny Cash!!!!!🤪
    09-14-2018 11:18 AM
  2. Craig's Avatar
    See? Now I want Johnny Cash!!!!!������

    Johnny Cash.. "I built it one piece at a time, and it did not cost me a dime... " That worked for the caddy song, can't do that for an iPhone.
    09-14-2018 11:26 AM
  3. EagleFox007's Avatar
    Well, each person has a reason for the decisions he or she makes.

    Let’s get the first point out of the way. I have a good job and I choose where to spend my expendable cash.

    The second point - I travel. When I travel I like to keep my media handy. ALL my music, because I never know when I’m going to get a hankering for The Four Seasons or Pink or Evanescence. And I’m a Doctor Who fan and I’m a The Walking Dead fan and I’m a Downton Abbey fan and I’m a Doc Martin fan. I also read a lot. Tom Clancy and also current events. When I travel I like to keep ALL these options open.

    The third point - I fill up a phone very quickly. So I have to choose sometimes what I’m going to carry and I always end up wanting what I’ve left behind. No, I don’t stream over public WiFi. So I was going to buy a new iPad where I could keep all I want and carry that and my phone.

    The fourth point - I don’t like to carry extra electronics.

    So.......if I can get an iPhone Xs Max with 512 GB I can:

    1). Keep all my media stored locally
    2). Carry fewer electronics.

    So.....I decided to get an iPhone Xs Max. I’ve been hoping for this moment for a very long time.
    That’s good for you that you can afford it. You also mentioned you’re a doctor. Feel free to buy how many you want but that’s not the point I was trying to say. I’m just merely saying that I think most people will not upgrade who already got the iPhone X last year because of the reasons I already mentioned previously. You’re one of the people I mentioned who can afford it so good for you and congrats and your new phone.
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    09-14-2018 11:29 AM
  4. qbnkelt's Avatar
    That’s good for you that you can afford it. You also mentioned you’re a doctor. Feel free to buy how many you want but that’s not the point I was trying to say. I’m just merely saying that I think most people will not upgrade who already got the iPhone X last year because of the reasons I already mentioned previously. You’re one of the people I mentioned who can afford it so good for you and congrats and your new phone.
    Ummmmm......no I didn’t say I’m a Doctor. I said I’m a Doctor Who fan and a Doc Martin fan.

    I don’t have stats on how many people upgrade every year. Do you have that handy?

    And thank you. I will enjoy it. I’ll try not to scare any five year olds sitting next to me while I watching zombies eating people alive.
    09-14-2018 11:36 AM
  5. Almeuit's Avatar
    Took awhile.. but got the phones ordered.

    I had to call Verizon though to get the watch going. It kept saying I am max lines (not true) -- so she did a work around and got it ordered.
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    09-14-2018 11:40 AM
  6. Craig's Avatar
    Ummmmm......no I didn’t say I’m a Doctor. I said I’m a Doctor Who fan and a Doc Martin fan.

    I don’t have stats on how many people upgrade every year. Do you have that handy?

    And thank you. I will enjoy it. I’ll try not to scare any five year olds sitting next to me while I watching zombies eating people alive.
    That's funny, the person read "I'm a doctor" and stopped there... one more word, and they would have had it.
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    09-14-2018 11:53 AM
  7. EagleFox007's Avatar
    Ummmmm......no I didn’t say I’m a Doctor. I said I’m a Doctor Who fan and a Doc Martin fan.

    I don’t have stats on how many people upgrade every year. Do you have that handy?

    And thank you. I will enjoy it. I’ll try not to scare any five year olds sitting next to me while I watching zombies eating people alive.
    Are you asking statistics? I don’t have one and the phone just came out a couple of hours ago. It’s too early to measure statistics. Better wait for the news on some of the tech sites. I’m sure this will come out later today or tomorrow.

    What I’m using to guess is the experience I have upgrading each year. This is the first time in years I’ve seen that as of this moment, I can still pre-order the phone and pick up at the store on the 21st. In previous years, it only takes minutes before they run out. They might have increased their stocks at the store but this is happening in multiple stores in my area. I might be wrong but I’m just telling you my observation based on what I have seen each year.

    I also have a good job like yours as you mentioned and can afford one. It just doesn’t make sense for me to get a new one based on my needs.
    09-14-2018 11:55 AM
  8. LadiJae's Avatar
    They reordered it for me. They think it may have been the watch that caused the error. My second order without the watch went through fine. So we'll see.

    I ordered the wrong watch anyway so I'm ok with not getting it.
    Well that worked out even better!!!
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    09-14-2018 11:56 AM
  9. qbnkelt's Avatar
    That's funny, the person read "I'm a doctor" and stopped there... one more word, and they would have had it.
    My heroes. I can now carry at least the last four. The others only at home on BritBox.

    I would REALLY stretch ANY device if I were to put ALL the Doctors on it!!!

    But the larger screen will be awesome.....and no extra electronics to carry around.

    No iPad needed. Happy me.

    09-14-2018 12:01 PM
  10. Craig's Avatar
    No matter what, Tom Baker is always going to be Dr. Who.
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    09-14-2018 12:03 PM
  11. qbnkelt's Avatar
    No matter what, Tom Baker is always going to be Dr. Who.
    YES!!!!!! Yes yes yes!!!!! NOBODY like Tom Baker. IMHO. YMMV.

    Although I did enjoy Peter A LOT. I was surprised.
    09-14-2018 12:05 PM
  12. qbnkelt's Avatar
    Are you asking statistics? I don’t have one and the phone just came out a couple of hours ago. It’s too early to measure statistics. Better wait for the news on some of the tech sites. I’m sure this will come out later today or tomorrow.

    What I’m using to guess is the experience I have upgrading each year. This is the first time in years I’ve seen that as of this moment, I can still pre-order the phone and pick up at the store on the 21st. In previous years, it only takes minutes before they run out. They might have increased their stocks at the store but this is happening in multiple stores in my area. I might be wrong but I’m just telling you my observation based on what I have seen each year.

    I also have a good job like yours as you mentioned and can afford one. It just doesn’t make sense for me to get a new one based on my needs.
    I was asking in stats on how many people upgrade every year. I’ve never thought about it.

    The reason that I’m questioning whether or not less people have ordered is because this year, as I mentioned earlier, there were three models launched on the same day. The SE was launched during Spring two years ago, if I’m not mistaken. This year there are three different options, with the entry devices being available for preorder a month from now.

    So it’s not really a good estimate of how the launch has gone. This launch is different from any prior. Three models, three price points, lowest price point a month away.
    09-14-2018 12:19 PM
  13. Jude34's Avatar
    I ordered my gold, 256 GB Xs Max @ 3:05 a.m. (I looked at the time! Anyway, it is saying shipment date 9/21..kind of disappointing. I pre-ordered kind of hoped I'd have it by this Friday...
    09-14-2018 12:28 PM
  14. EagleFox007's Avatar
    I was asking in stats on how many people upgrade every year. I’ve never thought about it.

    The reason that I’m questioning whether or not less people have ordered is because this year, as I mentioned earlier, there were three models launched on the same day. The SE was launched during Spring two years ago, if I’m not mistaken. This year there are three different options, with the entry devices being available for preorder a month from now.

    So it’s not really a good estimate of how the launch has gone. This launch is different from any prior. Three models, three price points, lowest price point a month away.
    True but the one thing in common they have each year even with different variant is the premium phone always gets sold out right away in mins.
    09-14-2018 12:31 PM
  15. digitalbreak's Avatar
    Seriously though, it’s their own personal choice for upgrading or buying a new iPhone device. No need to keep iterating “it’s expensive” every now and then to us (folks who ordered) because we really want the device and we chose to buy it.

    If you feel it’s expensive, you don’t have to buy it and you are not going to convince anybody here to not buy because it’s expensive as well.

    Just my 2 cents.
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    09-14-2018 12:31 PM
  16. qbnkelt's Avatar
    I ordered my gold, 256 GB Xs Max @ 3:05 a.m. (I looked at the time! Anyway, it is saying shipment date 9/21..kind of disappointing. I pre-ordered kind of hoped I'd have it by this Friday...
    I KNOW!!!! Me too!!!! How DARE they make me wait!!!

    I had a hiccup with my Apple Pay because my card had expired and somehow there was a hang up with the new card not being updated. So I deleted the card on file and added it again and then it was OK.
    09-14-2018 12:33 PM
  17. qbnkelt's Avatar
    True but the one thing in common they have each year even with different variant is the premium phone always gets sold out right away in mins.
    Well I can’t speak to that because I don’t have the stats to prove that.

    My impression is that the middle option is the one that sells faster. But like I said, I don’t have stats so I can’t speak to it.
    09-14-2018 12:41 PM
  18. EagleFox007's Avatar
    Well I can’t speak to that because I don’t have the stats to prove that.

    My impression is that the middle option is the one that sells faster. But like I said, I don’t have stats so I can’t speak to it.
    Again, I am speaking through my experience. I don’t need a stat to tell myself something is different. I only skipped this year but I have been upgrading each year since iPhone 4.
    09-14-2018 12:44 PM
  19. jpgti's Avatar
    Well I can’t speak to that because I don’t have the stats to prove that.

    My impression is that the middle option is the one that sells faster. But like I said, I don’t have stats so I can’t speak to it.
    To me, its not so much about stats as it is just how this launch feels. Not near the hype as years past, a lot more chatter from my friends saying they aren't upgrading. Inventory available much longer than usual, and websites performing much better than years past. I saw absolutely nothing last night/this morning on my facebook which is a first for an iPhone pre-order, and I have a lot of apple people on there. It could very well be that Apple has done better with inventory, or people ware waiting for the Xr. Just feels a lot different.
    09-14-2018 12:55 PM
  20. qbnkelt's Avatar
    Again, I am speaking through my experience. I don’t need a stat to tell myself something is different. I only skipped this year but I have been upgrading each year since iPhone 4.
    But you said this:

    Just woke up and it’s 6:55AM. Checked Apple store and all models of XS and XS max are still available for pickup on the 21st at store near me. This is completely different from my experience last year when I pre-ordered my iPhone X. You can clearly tell not too many people upgraded this year.
    You are saying that based on your survey of eight or so stores in your area, that you can clearly tell that not too many people upgraded this year.

    You are taking your location and extrapolating that to the whole of iPhone purchases. If you had said “Based on my experience I think less people have upgraded” there is no challenge to that statement. But you said that based on your experience one can “clearly tell that not too many people upgraded this year.”

    That’s why I’m asking if you have stats.

    Here’s the thing. We’re barely nine hours into this launch. Up until this year there were people saying the X was being discontinued because it hadn’t sold and the model would be discontinued. Then we found out there were huge numbers of X devices sold.

    My experience doesn’t allow me to draw conclusions because I buy what I want irrespective of outside factors. From where I sit, this was no different from any other time. Except for a glitch with my card in Apple Pay.
    09-14-2018 12:58 PM
  21. qbnkelt's Avatar
    To me, its not so much about stats as it is just how this launch feels. Not near the hype as years past, a lot more chatter from my friends saying they aren't upgrading. Inventory available much longer than usual, and websites performing much better than years past. I saw absolutely nothing last night/this morning on my facebook which is a first for an iPhone pre-order, and I have a lot of apple people on there. It could very well be that Apple has done better with inventory, or people ware waiting for the Xr. Just feels a lot different.
    Oh I’ve been with my head in the news about the hurricane down south because we have our failover site in Durham and we’re about to get clobbered. It’s bad when your failover site fails. Whoever decided that it was a good idea to put a failover site in hurricane country needs to get fired.

    I haven’t been watching anything much on the news except Florence.

    For me, and my two friends at work, we’re as hyper as every year.
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    09-14-2018 01:01 PM
  22. jpgti's Avatar
    Oh I’ve been with my head in the news about the hurricane down south because we have our failover site in Durham and we’re about to get clobbered. It’s bad when your failover site fails. Whoever decided that it was a good idea to put a failover site in hurricane country needs to get fired.

    I haven’t been watching anything much on the news except Florence.

    For me, and my two friends at work, we’re as hyper as every year.
    Worked in IT for many years now, seems like its a common thread to have the backup site/system on something sketchy lol.
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    09-14-2018 01:19 PM
  23. qbnkelt's Avatar
    Worked in IT for many years now, seems like its a common thread to have the backup site/system on something sketchy lol.
    Why do they DO THAT?!??!!!
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    09-14-2018 01:21 PM
  24. EagleFox007's Avatar
    But you said this:



    You are saying that based on your survey of eight or so stores in your area, that you can clearly tell that not too many people upgraded this year.

    You are taking your location and extrapolating that to the whole of iPhone purchases. If you had said “Based on my experience I think less people have upgraded” there is no challenge to that statement. But you said that based on your experience one can “clearly tell that not too many people upgraded this year.”

    That’s why I’m asking if you have stats.

    Here’s the thing. We’re barely nine hours into this launch. Up until this year there were people saying the X was being discontinued because it hadn’t sold and the model would be discontinued. Then we found out there were huge numbers of X devices sold.

    My experience doesn’t allow me to draw conclusions because I buy what I want irrespective of outside factors. From where I sit, this was no different from any other time. Except for a glitch with my card in Apple Pay.
    Oh, are we getting on technicalities now? Based on what I said? This will be my last comment to you because you really are not getting my point and no use of wasting my time anymore Actually, I have already wasted my time. LOL!
    09-14-2018 01:26 PM
  25. qbnkelt's Avatar
    Oh, are we getting on technicalities now? Based on what I said? This will be my last comment to you because you really are not getting my point and no use of wasting my time anymore Actually, I have already wasted my time. LOL!
    OK. Have a great weekend.
    09-14-2018 01:29 PM
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