1. Mr Segundus's Avatar
    asking them to download a special app is a pain
    I never understood this argument. People use cellular devices to literally download apps. That's what iDevices are used for. What's one more app to download? I mean, if an Android user is in your circle and you want to FaceTime them, what's so difficult about downloading Google Duo on your phone or on your friend's device? It takes seconds to download and a minute to open up an account. It's pretty easy, just like every other app out there.

    This isn't an attack on you personally. It's just that I see this argument being used and people act like it's very difficult to download an app and use it when it's really not hard at all.
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    07-10-2018 09:16 AM
  2. SABRIAN70's Avatar
    I know what you mean. I know my mom's iPhone works well with her Google Home mini it's mainly the macbook/laptop issue for me.
    It's not that I planned on being invested in Android, all of my Google home devices I received for free so I couldn't pass that up.
    I've mainly been looking on switching because of Apple's security. I really like that they encrypt everything where as Google doesn't.
    And personally I think the iPhone X may be the best looking phone ever manufactured and I may be the other person who loves the notch.
    Thank you for your response.

    Do it ! Get the X .... It's only money and when the X2 comes out in September get that too !
    07-13-2018 07:54 PM
  3. LCW's Avatar
    Don't get the X now. The new Plus is rumored to come in at 999, and 5.8 X at 899. So used X from last year will only go down in value even more IMO.

    The 6.1 LCD model might be 699 or 799 per said rumors.
    07-13-2018 08:14 PM
  4. Mark1112's Avatar
    I’ve had both Android and Apple devices, more maintenance on android devices. More cleaning and rebooting. However, Android devices are more versatile for personal use. I had Apple devices for years switched to Android, for a couple of years. Now I have both IPhone and an Android tablet. Eventually I will replace the tablet with an iPad. It’s all about personal choices. If I was invested with Android, I would probably stay. But the majority of my data is stored in IOS. Movies, music, etc. That being said. iOS is easier to use, more stable, and more reliable. That’s my experience. Hope it helped
    07-15-2018 03:38 PM
  5. rebretz000's Avatar
    I'm definitely waiting on the iPhone 11 if that's what it will be called. I'm hoping that T-Mobile's new low frequency bands will be supported. I plan on migrating into the Apple ecosystem for the most part. I'll keep my Android tv boxes and Chromecasts but get some MacBooks and Homepods.
    07-18-2018 06:44 PM
  6. Daniel_Burgin's Avatar
    To the op I’m no in the Mac ecosystem me and the wife have an iPhone and an iPad the kids have android tablets I have 2 or 3 android phablets kicking around that I use now and again and the mother-in-law is an android user also have chrome cast and fire tv and sky q all works well together hth
    07-20-2018 02:35 AM
  7. Vega007's Avatar
    I never understood this argument. People use cellular devices to literally download apps. That's what iDevices are used for. What's one more app to download? I mean, if an Android user is in your circle and you want to FaceTime them, what's so difficult about downloading Google Duo on your phone or on your friend's device? It takes seconds to download and a minute to open up an account. It's pretty easy, just like every other app out there.

    This isn't an attack on you personally. It's just that I see this argument being used and people act like it's very difficult to download an app and use it when it's really not hard at all.
    I agree with you for sure about this. But to play devil's advocate, people I know that don't like downloading lots of apps because either a) they are almost out of storage room or b) they feel like more apps means more clutter which means slowing their phone down.
    If it is neither these issues, then you can chalk it up to digital laziness.
    07-24-2018 11:32 AM
  8. metllicamilitia's Avatar
    I agree with you for sure about this. But to play devil's advocate, people I know that don't like downloading lots of apps because either a) they are almost out of storage room or b) they feel like more apps means more clutter which means slowing their phone down.
    If it is neither these issues, then you can chalk it up to digital laziness.
    I try to keep my apps to a minimum to reduce the number of home screens. I don't always like using folder because that's just more taps to get to an app. An app drawer would be nice so I could have a nice clean home screen.
    07-24-2018 11:35 AM
  9. Vega007's Avatar
    I try to keep my apps to a minimum to reduce the number of home screens. I don't always like using folder because that's just more taps to get to an app. An app drawer would be nice so I could have a nice clean home screen.
    Sure, everyone has different ways to handle that. I like to use only the first three rows on my home screen with the apps I use the most (along with the static bottom 4 of course). That gives 12 apps from home screen. One the next screen is where I keep all my folders, and yeah its not as ideal as the way Android works where you can just swipe up from the bottom and there are all your apps, but I find it keeps clutter to a minimum. I only have the two screens, and my home screen isn't cluttered so I can actually see my wallpaper as well.

    Oh, and the Siri App suggestions widget is actually pretty handy as well as that gives me 8 more apps with a swipe right at my use and oddly enough has the right app I want at that time 9 times out of 10.
    07-24-2018 11:55 AM
  10. vhl71's Avatar
    I ended up switching from pixel 2 to iPhone X and has been very happy so far. Mainly because how good the phones looks and feels in my hand. It is by far the best look g phone in the market, IMO.
    When I was using Android I would always keep trying various phones. While there are some great hardware choices I was never happy with Android itself.
    Pixel 2 was very good. Loved the google assistant and camera. But aesthetically its not the best looking phone. I still miss the hose features of pixel 2 in my iPhone X. But I don’t think I’ll go back to Android now.
    07-25-2018 11:27 AM
  11. o4liberty's Avatar
    I carry both and switch it up every now and then you get tired of the the same thing day in and day out.
    07-25-2018 06:28 PM
  12. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    I agree with you for sure about this. But to play devil's advocate, people I know that don't like downloading lots of apps because either a) they are almost out of storage room or b) they feel like more apps means more clutter which means slowing their phone down.
    If it is neither these issues, then you can chalk it up to digital laziness.
    Although you bring up a good observation, you didn’t consider people like me. If I don’t find steady use for an app, it does not stay on my device. Period. I don’t think about running out of storage space or having any lag or slow-downs, and I’m definitely not associated with ‘digital laziness’. I find it hard to classify anyone who frequents a tech forum to be digitally lazy. Know what I mean?
    07-25-2018 07:04 PM
  13. Vega007's Avatar
    Although you bring up a good observation, you didn’t consider people like me. If I don’t find steady use for an app, it does not stay on my device. Period. I don’t think about running out of storage space or having any lag or slow-downs, and I’m definitely not associated with ‘digital laziness’. I find it hard to classify anyone who frequents a tech forum to be digitally lazy. Know what I mean?
    Well, I was speaking in general terms, not to people who frequent tech forums. I know people who literally will not download a new app, even if you ask them to, just because its "a bother". It's like when someone says "I didn't have time to text you back". That makes no sense since people are on their phones all the time, and can't take 5 seconds to send a text? To me, that is just being lazy, and a new kind of lazy really. That was all I meant.
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    07-26-2018 11:21 AM
  14. Tartarus's Avatar
    I know people who literally will not download a new app, even if you ask them to, just because its "a bother".
    I quite literally can’t stand those types. As if using a smartphone is a burden

    It's like when someone says "I didn't have time to text you back". That makes no sense since people are on their phones all the time, and can't take 5 seconds to send a text? To me, that is just being lazy, and a new kind of lazy really. That was all I meant.
    I have caught myself a few times that I forgot to text someone back. Depending on the context and content of a text, I may even knowingly not text you back. It’s all relative.

    I have this friend that hates texting and always calls, even for the most unimportant stuff. I stopped texting him and answering his phone calls, unless I need him.
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    07-26-2018 11:34 AM
  15. Vega007's Avatar
    "It's all relative."

    So true. There is a reason for everything, and lots of times I may not like the reason, but in the end it doesn't have to conform to me anyhow =P
    07-26-2018 12:06 PM
  16. rebretz000's Avatar
    If the leaked price of the Pixel 3 is correct then my decision to leave Android and Google and get an iPhone seems like the right choice and easier to justify spending over $1000 on a phone. $799 for the regular Pixel 3? No thanks, I mean Google does put out the best or one of the best cameras and camera software and does have a nice UI and monthly updates but nothing I've heard so far justifies a $150 increase in price.
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    10-09-2018 09:03 AM
  17. jpgti's Avatar
    If the leaked price of the Pixel 3 is correct then my decision to leave Android and Google and get an iPhone seems like the right choice and easier to justify spending over $1000 on a phone. $799 for the regular Pixel 3? No thanks, I mean Google does put out the best or one of the best cameras and camera software and does have a nice UI and monthly updates but nothing I've heard so far justifies a $150 increase in price.
    I think you will find that with most phone manufacturers these days. Even if there isn't a great technical justification for the price increases, they will charge a premium price if nothing else to give the impression that their phone is a premium product. And because they know people will pay it.

    I carry both a Note 9 and a XS Max, and the one thing that drives me crazy about Android is how bogged down it gets. Seems like the longer I own an Android phone, the slower it gets. Im not one to download every app I run across either, I haven't downloaded anything new in at least a month. I pretty much stick to well known apps when I do download something. I think the issue is, and always has been, a disconnect between hardware and software. Samsung and LG and all these manufacturers build a device and make the software work with it, whereas Apple seems to go the opposite direction. I can't speak of the Pixel devices, I think they are really ugly so I have never tried one, but maybe the are better in that regard. But my iPhone will pretty much run the same way it did out of the box for as long as I own it, without me having to think about it hardly at all. And that's been he case with pretty much every iPhone I have owned.
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    10-09-2018 11:42 AM
  18. Vega007's Avatar
    If the leaked price of the Pixel 3 is correct then my decision to leave Android and Google and get an iPhone seems like the right choice and easier to justify spending over $1000 on a phone. $799 for the regular Pixel 3? No thanks, I mean Google does put out the best or one of the best cameras and camera software and does have a nice UI and monthly updates but nothing I've heard so far justifies a $150 increase in price.
    I am stunned the baby Pixel 3 is $799...just stunned. At that price point, on Android and wanting a flagship, I would go with the cheaper Galaxy S9 in a heartbeat. Pixel phones are incredibly boring. Pixels have 3 things that stand out: Camera, Updates, and clean software (although with Android one phones and many unlocked phones coming out with pure android experiences, this has lost a lot of its value). And really, the S9's camera is fine for 99% of people anyhow. So now, you are basically paying $150-$200 more for updates? Heck no.
    10-09-2018 05:46 PM
  19. doogald's Avatar
    Pixels have 3 things that stand out: Camera, Updates, and clean software ... So now, you are basically paying $150-$200 more for updates?
    I'm not buying an Android phone, but, if I was - yes, I'd pay that much more for those three things. (Frankly, I do the same, and maybe more, by buying iPhones.)
    10-09-2018 05:57 PM
  20. rebretz000's Avatar
    I'm not buying an Android phone, but, if I was - yes, I'd pay that much more for those three things. (Frankly, I do the same, and maybe more, by buying iPhones.)
    That's why I always went Google phones. But compared to iPhone Xs I think the Pixel is more than $200 less phone.
    10-09-2018 06:11 PM
  21. rebretz000's Avatar
    Besides the Move to iOS app is there a way to transfer info from an Android phone to an iPhone? All I owuld want is contacts, text messages, and call log. No apps or downloads or pictures.
    10-10-2018 01:24 PM
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