1. mogelijk's Avatar
    ???
    Maybe to put it a different way: Einstein as he aged always wore the same type of clothes, a gray suit. When asked, he stated that it saved him time as he didn't have to think about what to wear everyday. For him, not having a choice was a good thing.

    Now, contrast that with some social media darling that posts lots of photos on Instagram in various outfits. That person wants and even needs to have a wide variety of clothing choices.

    People are different and require different things, so having the choice is a good thing; even if the choice is just to buy a bunch of the same gray suits to wear everyday.
    04-08-2018 05:06 AM
  2. Rob Phillips's Avatar
    Haha! Here, I’ll attempt to explain it better.

    “Look, I just got a new smartphone that blows yours away. It can make toast!”. Now for this person that might be a valuable feature, but it doesn’t make it better for all. Some like features and some like simple and well designed.

    Perhaps I should have used the word “features” in my first statement. That might have made it more clear.

    In the end choice of different platforms is a good thing.
    I mean, who wouldn’t want a smartphone that makes toast?
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    04-08-2018 06:06 AM
  3. o4liberty's Avatar
    No issues here but I also use the note 8 and probably lean towards the note more than the X. The X is an amazing device and works great with my Apple eco system I own. One thing about Apple it just works!
    04-08-2018 06:32 AM
  4. bakron1's Avatar
    No issues here but I also use the note 8 and probably lean towards the note more than the X. The X is an amazing device and works great with my Apple eco system I own. One thing about Apple it just works!
    Well said, I also have as many apps in the Google play store as I do in the Apple App Store, I choose to use the X because of the integration between my iMacs and the X and as you stated, it just works.
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    04-08-2018 08:02 AM
  5. bcandiolo's Avatar
    I’ve been tempted many times to purchase the X, but there are 2 things that would not tolerate, no fingerprint scanner and the notch.
    Coming coming from the 7+, I wanted a smaller form factor, and against all recommendations and poor reviews, bought the 8

    I’m so happy with it, my main concern was battery performance, but the 8 is awesome, using it regularly it is still at 60% left at 8pm. My day starts at 7am. My power bank is still in my backpack, never used in 5 months.
    I will definitely purchase an iPhone X but it waiting to have both Touch and Face ID and if possible no notch
    04-08-2018 11:35 AM
  6. Rob Phillips's Avatar
    I’ve been tempted many times to purchase the X, but there are 2 things that would not tolerate, no fingerprint scanner and the notch.
    Coming coming from the 7+, I wanted a smaller form factor, and against all recommendations and poor reviews, bought the 8

    I’m so happy with it, my main concern was battery performance, but the 8 is awesome, using it regularly it is still at 60% left at 8pm. My day starts at 7am. My power bank is still in my backpack, never used in 5 months.
    I will definitely purchase an iPhone X but it waiting to have both Touch and Face ID and if possible no notch
    Glad to hear you’re happy with your iPhone 8. The reviews I read seemed to focus on the iPhone 8 being just an incremental update to the 7, not really a bad phone. Yeah the glass back makes it a little more fragile but wireless charging is awesome and the A11 Bionic is a beast.
    If you’re waiting for Touch ID and no notch to buy an iPhone X successor you might be waiting for a while. Nobody knows for sure but Apple seems all-in on Face ID. My guess: If they can incorporate Touch ID under the display at a quality high enough to meet Apple’s standards then they may make a change. I actually like Face ID a lot. It’s just very cool but at a slight cost of efficiency.
    Last edited by Rob Phillips; 04-08-2018 at 12:07 PM.
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    04-08-2018 11:44 AM
  7. bakron1's Avatar
    I’ve been tempted many times to purchase the X, but there are 2 things that would not tolerate, no fingerprint scanner and the notch.
    Coming coming from the 7+, I wanted a smaller form factor, and against all recommendations and poor reviews, bought the 8

    I’m so happy with it, my main concern was battery performance, but the 8 is awesome, using it regularly it is still at 60% left at 8pm. My day starts at 7am. My power bank is still in my backpack, never used in 5 months.
    I will definitely purchase an iPhone X but it waiting to have both Touch and Face ID and if possible no notch
    It’s all about you being happy with your decision, I had an 8 plus before I upgraded to the X and it’s a nice device with great battery life.

    My brother Don has a 8 and loves the device and it gets great battery life and even though he is not a tech savvy person, he loves his iPhone 8 and wouldn’t use anything else.

    As far as the fingerprint scanner, the facial ID works well for me and since I am identical twin, it also works for my brother which is great since we live together and have stuck together our entire lives.
    04-08-2018 11:50 AM
  8. bcandiolo's Avatar
    …If you’re waiting for Touch ID and no notch to buy an iPhone X successor you might be waiting a very long time. Nobody knows for sure but Apple seems all-in on Face ID. My guess: If they can incorporate Touch ID under the display at a quality high enough to meet Apple’s standards then they may make a change. I actually like Face ID a lot. It’s just very cool but at a slight cost of efficiency.
    Well that’s sad to hear, one of the most wonderful things Apple did (better than any other manufacturer) is its Touch ID. It is one of the most accurate and perfect pieces of hardware (compared to my wonderful AirPods). Can’t understand the reasonings on just removing it instead of adding the option and let the user decide, many people still miss the 3,5 jack but at least we can use headsets, wired or wireless, but IMHO Face ID is not a replacement to Touch ID

    If the X is going into that direction, hope  will continue updating the 8, 8+ and SE great models
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    04-08-2018 11:55 AM
  9. Garz's Avatar
    I’ve been tempted many times to purchase the X, but there are 2 things that would not tolerate, no fingerprint scanner and the notch.
    Coming coming from the 7+, I wanted a smaller form factor, and against all recommendations and poor reviews, bought the 8

    I’m so happy with it, my main concern was battery performance, but the 8 is awesome, using it regularly it is still at 60% left at 8pm. My day starts at 7am. My power bank is still in my backpack, never used in 5 months.
    I will definitely purchase an iPhone X but it waiting to have both Touch and Face ID and if possible no notch
    Touch ID is likely dead. Face ID is the future and in my opinion, it’s better than Touch ID.
    04-08-2018 12:13 PM
  10. o4liberty's Avatar
    It’s all about you being happy with your decision, I had an 8 plus before I upgraded to the X and it’s a nice device with great battery life.

    My brother Don has a 8 and loves the device and it gets great battery life and even though he is not a tech savvy person, he loves his iPhone 8 and wouldn’t use anything else.

    As far as the fingerprint scanner, the facial ID works well for me and since I am identical twin, it also works for my brother which is great since we live together and have stuck together our entire lives.
    Recently picked up a pixelbook and what a total disaster it was! Google even told me the issues I had were known ones with no fix! Picked up a Mack book 12” and all is good !
    04-08-2018 12:22 PM
  11. bcandiolo's Avatar
    As far as the fingerprint scanner, the facial ID works well for me and since I am identical twin, it also works for my brother which is great since we live together and have stuck together our entire lives.
    If I understand correctly Face ID opens the X for both, your brother and yourself?

    Using Touch ID I can configure 1 fingerprint for my son, so if needed he can quickly unlock my phone
    04-08-2018 12:23 PM
  12. doogald's Avatar
    If I understand correctly Face ID opens the X for both, your brother and yourself?

    Using Touch ID I can configure 1 fingerprint for my son, so if needed he can quickly unlock my phone
    The one thing I miss, but I bet that Apple will somehow extend Face ID to allow a situation like this: allowing at least a second, trusted person to Face ID unlock the phone. (Maybe not with this model, though; maybe it will take a future, more capable processor?)

    As for the notch... in less than 30 minutes, I stopped noticing it. It was really almost instantly. So little goes on up there that I just don't notice it. I kind of miss the battery percentage, but not really - I've just grown accustomed to estimating based on the icon. The one thing I miss is the icon that shows whether my BT headphones are connected - I always forget whether I turned them off or not as I walk back to the house after a run. Adding the flashlight to the lock screen, though, means that I almost never use the control center, so the CC being in the right ear is not an issue for me (the flashlight is about all I used it for before, and I had CC off unless the phone was unlocked always, so it always meant having my finger on Touch ID first - Face ID is a definitive improvement for that, for me anyway).
    04-08-2018 12:36 PM
  13. MasterDarque's Avatar
    Regarding using FaceID, overall I’ve had a very good experience with it. The one drawback to it’s usage on the iPhone X for me, versus also having TouchID as well on it, is when I’ve had to wear a mask while visiting someone at the hospital in their room. If the X had TouchID on it as well FaceID, I’d be able to use that (TouchID) to unlock the phone with. With the X having FaceID only, I’ve been having to enter my passcode every time while wearing the mask to unlock it, as obviously with the mask on FaceID is working as intended and it won’t unlock. This is an outlier use case I know, so for the most part FaceID has been more than sufficient for me - including using ApplePay.
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    04-08-2018 01:12 PM
  14. bakron1's Avatar
    If I understand correctly Face ID opens the X for both, your brother and yourself?

    Using Touch ID I can configure 1 fingerprint for my son, so if needed he can quickly unlock my phone
    Yes, facial ID works for both my twin brother and myself. I also set up his iPhone 8 with separate fingerprints so both of us can unlock his phone.
    04-09-2018 05:48 AM
  15. bakron1's Avatar
    Recently picked up a pixelbook and what a total disaster it was! Google even told me the issues I had were known ones with no fix! Picked up a Mack book 12” and all is good !
    One of my clients also had a couple Google pixelbooks and hated the things and ended up buying a couple MacBooks as you did.
    04-09-2018 05:52 AM
  16. Darth_Bane's Avatar
    My ownership was a tad rocky, the FaceId was not working as intended, but now some months later it works 99% of the time
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    04-09-2018 02:56 PM
  17. HalleCat's Avatar
    Haha! Here, I’ll attempt to explain it better.



    “Look, I just got a new smartphone that blows yours away. It can make toast!”. Now for this person that might be a valuable feature, but it doesn’t make it better for all. Some like features and some like simple and well designed.

    Perhaps I should have used the word “features” in my first statement. That might have made it more clear.

    In the end choice of different platforms is a good thing.
    I can explain it easier than that in another word: Time.
    Simpler = Less Time
    More Features/Complicated = Time Consuming

    When I HAD TO switch from my NEXTEL DirectConnect Blackberry, I went to the local Best Buy and checked out a lot of phones. I can’t remember which one I got (I still have it in the closet in a box of other old phones) but when I got out to my car and tried calling my husband (while trying to learn the whole touch screen thing) I got pretty frustrated with it telling me “error blah blah”. I’m not home in front of my computer, I don’t want my phone giving me error messages. By the time I got home, I called Sprint and had them put that phone on my husband number and I ordered the iPhone 4s. It never gave me error messages and I was pretty happy with its features.
    However I take thousands of photos and I made many Photobooks on that phone, I just about went blind because it was so small.
    But I much rather have all the technical time consuming stuff on my computer, and the simple quicker stuff on the phone. Mostly because if I’m using my phone, I’m not usually at home and I don’t have time to mess with it on the run. 😉😉
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    04-10-2018 02:21 AM
  18. TripleOne's Avatar
    Count me in. I've enjoyed the overall experience with the X.
    04-11-2018 10:44 PM
  19. Seneca09's Avatar
    Great phone and glad I am back with iPhone. Gestures on the X remind me of BlackBerry 10, which was my favorite OS until the announcement to pull the plug on it. Then used a BlackBerry keyone black edition but droidberry is like paring Tom Arnold and Roseanne Barr again, which clearing wouldn’t work out and watch it try to be compatible. Either way, the X marks the spot for me!
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    04-11-2018 11:06 PM
  20. bakron1's Avatar
    Great phone and glad I am back with iPhone. Gestures on the X remind me of BlackBerry 10, which was my favorite OS until the announcement to pull the plug on it. Then used a BlackBerry keyone black edition but droidberry is like paring Tom Arnold and Roseanne Barr again, which clearing wouldn’t work out and watch it try to be compatible. Either way, the X marks the spot for me!
    Glad you like the X, I was also a lover of Blackberry OS10 and the gestures on the iPhone X came natural to me, enjoy.
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    04-12-2018 06:39 AM
  21. anon(5630457)'s Avatar
    Having more choices, just for the sake of having more, isn’t always a good thing.
    I don't understand that argument. More choice is ALWAYS a good thing. Never once in my life have I ever thought "Dang. I wish I had fewer choices".
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    04-12-2018 07:50 AM
  22. anon(5630457)'s Avatar
    It’s all about you being happy with your decision, I had an 8 plus before I upgraded to the X and it’s a nice device with great battery life.

    My brother Don has a 8 and loves the device and it gets great battery life and even though he is not a tech savvy person, he loves his iPhone 8 and wouldn’t use anything else.

    As far as the fingerprint scanner, the facial ID works well for me and since I am identical twin, it also works for my brother which is great since we live together and have stuck together our entire lives.
    Your parents did the same rhyming twin names to you and your brother as what my parents have done to my brother and I? I'm also a twin and my parents gave us similar sounding names. I don't understand why they didn't name my brother Fred and me George.
    04-12-2018 07:54 AM
  23. bakron1's Avatar
    Your parents did the same rhyming twin names to you and your brother as what my parents have done to my brother and I? I'm also a twin and my parents gave us similar sounding names. I don't understand why they didn't name my brother Fred and me George.
    We are identical and have lived together most of our lives and are retiring together. He have been close our entire lives and take care of each other. It’s unique being a twin and unless you are one, you don’t understand the bond.
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    04-12-2018 11:43 AM
  24. anon(5630457)'s Avatar
    We are identical and have lived together most of our lives and are retiring together. He have been close our entire lives and take care of each other. It’s unique being a twin and unless you are one, you don’t understand the bond.
    I have an identical twin brother so I understand completely. What I meant to say is my parents gave us similar names as well. He's Dustin and I'm Justin. I remember having to wear shirts with my name on it for many years so people could tell us apart. That was irritating and humiliating.
    04-12-2018 12:57 PM
  25. bakron1's Avatar
    I have an identical twin brother so I understand completely. What I meant to say is my parents gave us similar names as well. He's Dustin and I'm Justin. I remember having to wear shirts with my name on it for many years so people could tell us apart. That was irritating and humiliating.
    I know what’s it’s like and our parents used to dress us alike when we where young and wore name tags in school so they could tell us apart. I look back on at now and laugh because the older I get, my brother and I have become even closer.

    I think it’s great having a duplicate of myself and wouldn’t trade it for anything. By the way, if once in you guys lives, make the tract to Twinsburg Ohio for the annual twins convention. It’s a great experience.
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    04-12-2018 01:31 PM
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