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  1. nyc_rock's Avatar
    Thought this was a very interesting read. Never mentioned when they talk about the "crazy price" of the X, but there it is.

    "We couldn’t talk Android phone notches without also addressing Android phone chins. “The only phone on the market that has a notch that doesn’t have a chin is the iPhone X,” notes Pei, and that’s because the iPhone’s “chin is on the back of the phone.” At the bottom of each display is a ribbon for connecting it to the device’s logic board, which necessitates at least a thin “chin.” Apple’s exotic solution to that was to use a flexible OLED screen that curves internally and thus pushes the ribbon connection toward the back. Pei explains that this approach makes the phone thicker and, understandably, more expensive. Not even Samsung, which makes Apple’s iPhone X displays, is being so indulgent in its design. So chins are going to remain a feature of Android phone designs for the foreseeable future."

    https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/28/1...droid-flagship
    03-29-2018 08:23 AM
  2. mumfoau's Avatar
    Hmmmm, very interesting.
    03-29-2018 08:25 AM
  3. Kowalik's Avatar
    I'm not happy with Iphone x, maybe the next one will be better refined
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    Last edited by Kowalik; 05-15-2018 at 04:03 PM.
    03-29-2018 08:41 AM
  4. doogald's Avatar
    Just to nitpick, the article says that the chin makes the phone more expensive, but doesn't say that it's more expensive than the components in the notch.
    03-29-2018 09:39 AM
  5. Seneca09's Avatar
    The design of the iPhone x in my opinion, is well thought out for the technology at this time. Eventually, the notch will be non existent and then it will be something else to nitpick about.
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    03-29-2018 10:46 AM
  6. nyc_rock's Avatar
    Just to nitpick, the article says that the chin makes the phone more expensive, but doesn't say that it's more expensive than the components in the notch.
    I probably could have worded it better. My point is really that the notch is getting all this attention, but the chin is the really impressive part. Especially in light of the all Android phones adoption the notch, but not the chin.
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    03-29-2018 11:12 AM
  7. anony_mouse's Avatar
    Given how poorly the iPhone 10 has sold, there's plenty of spare capacity in the Samsung factory that turns out the flexible OLED displays. They will certainly appear in Android phones soon - if anyone else is interested in such a design.
    03-29-2018 04:34 PM
  8. anon(5630457)'s Avatar
    Still doesn't justify its insane price tag. Before I get knocked, I have a 256GB iPhone X.
    03-30-2018 08:59 AM
  9. msm0511's Avatar
    Still doesn't justify its insane price tag. Before I get knocked, I have a 256GB iPhone X.
    If no other phone maker can produce a phone without a chin at a lower price point, maybe it does justify the price though. For a first year product I don't so much mind the price. What will bother me however, is if Apple does make a X Plus next year, keep the X at the same price, and place a 100-150 premium on the Plus model, then I'll complain.

    I know the rumors are that the X successor is going to go down in price and the Plus model will be priced at the current X price, but nobody knows for sure.
    04-12-2018 12:09 PM
  10. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Given how poorly the iPhone 10 has sold, there's plenty of spare capacity in the Samsung factory that turns out the flexible OLED displays. They will certainly appear in Android phones soon - if anyone else is interested in such a design.
    Can you provide any numbers to back the poor sales claim?
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    04-12-2018 03:40 PM
  11. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Still doesn't justify its insane price tag. Before I get knocked, I have a 256GB iPhone X.
    No one is going to knock you for that statement. Heck, I was one of the people who was against its selling price.
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    04-12-2018 03:42 PM
  12. doogald's Avatar
    To be honest, I wouldn't mind seeing even a small chin on the iPhone X. I find it difficult to reach the absolute bottom when I am using the phone one-handed, and I particularly find the reachability gesture hard to do one-handed. Since I only need reachability when I'm using the phone one-handed, I wouldn't mind either a smaller reach or a different gesture.
    04-13-2018 09:55 AM
  13. Cladster's Avatar
    Still doesn't justify its insane price tag. Before I get knocked, I have a 256GB iPhone X.
    Agree. A 64gbX is $1579 new here which is what i have/paid on release. I think i am done buying on release and paying full retail, you can get a as new X for easy $400 or more less now.
    I just got my wife a 8 plus 256gb 10 days old as new for $670 off Apple price. After selling her 6S plus and a profit on a note 8 i flipped it cost $99.
    Just got to have patience.

    All Apple products in Australia have a 2 year warranty under Australian Consumer Law probably one reason we pay more.
    04-13-2018 05:31 PM
  14. Cladster's Avatar
    Can you provide any numbers to back the poor sales claim?
    They can't unless you want to take peoples opinions in the alternative section on MR
    04-13-2018 05:33 PM
  15. anony_mouse's Avatar
    Can you provide any numbers to back the poor sales claim?
    No but it is widely known in the industry.
    04-22-2018 11:04 AM
  16. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    No but it is widely known in the industry.
    Being widely reported is not the same as being widely known. If anyone expected the iPhone X to sell as if it were the only new iPhone introduced is being unrealistic. Apple had to have known that and made sales projections accordingly, in my opinion. There are reports that indicate that Apple sold around 80 million iPhones over the Christmas holiday season and about 30 million of them were the iPhone X models. “If true”, that’s a lot of sold iPhone X’s.
    Last edited by Just_Me_D; 04-22-2018 at 12:43 PM.
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    04-22-2018 11:36 AM
  17. MasterDarque's Avatar
    No but it is widely known in the industry.
    Hmm, well without FACTUAL hard data, how can it be ‘widely known.’ Speculated upon, assumed, or presumed - yes, but ‘widely known,’ I don’t think so...
    Maybe widely wished for/hoped for...
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    04-22-2018 11:39 AM
  18. doogald's Avatar
    No but it is widely known in the industry.
    You mean it is widely **guessed at** in the industry. iPhone X earns 35% of all smartphone profits. iPhone 8 earns 19.1%, 8+ earns 15.2%.

    Apple's iPhone X Generated 35% of Smartphone Profits in Q4 | Fortune

    If sales were truly bad, the X, though it has higher profit per handset, wouldn't also have higher total profit than the 8 and 8+ combined.

    We'll know in a few weeks when Apple holds their quarterly financial call. They probably won't break out totals by handset, but they will talk about the success or failure of the iPhone X.
    04-22-2018 11:40 AM
  19. anony_mouse's Avatar
    You mean it is widely **guessed at** in the industry. iPhone X earns 35% of all smartphone profits. iPhone 8 earns 19.1%, 8+ earns 15.2%.

    Apple's iPhone X Generated 35% of Smartphone Profits in Q4 | Fortune

    If sales were truly bad, the X, though it has higher profit per handset, wouldn't also have higher total profit than the 8 and 8+ combined.

    We'll know in a few weeks when Apple holds their quarterly financial call. They probably won't break out totals by handset, but they will talk about the success or failure of the iPhone X.
    I say it's widely known in the industry because many people have contact with Apple's suppliers. A factory that is making fewer components than expected for Apple has the capacity (and need) to make more components for someone else. This affects the availability and pricing of components from that supplier to other customers.

    I don't think anyone is suggesting that sales of the iPhone 10 are truly bad, but they are lower than expected by a significant margin.
    04-23-2018 09:30 AM
  20. Annie_8plus's Avatar
    I prefer specific facts and or data. The phrase "Widely known..." is not specific enough for me to completely buy into what you're inferring. Nor is the word "they" as in, "they say" this or that. My Mother in law often uses this when trying to make a point.... specially when she's already on a slippery slope! I always make a point of asking "who, specifically, are they?" Until I know that, I'm not buying it!
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    04-23-2018 11:44 AM
  21. anony_mouse's Avatar
    I prefer specific facts and or data. The phrase "Widely known..." is not specific enough for me to completely buy into what you're inferring. Nor is the word "they" as in, "they say" this or that. My Mother in law often uses this when trying to make a point.... specially when she's already on a slippery slope! I always make a point of asking "who, specifically, are they?" Until I know that, I'm not buying it!
    The problem is that many people have some knowledge of this but are not able to post more details for various reasons. We generally have a fairly good view on whether a high profile product is doing badly/as expected/well because it has some visibility and effect on many people and businesses (suppliers, competitors, retailers, repair shops, telecoms networks, etc).

    We may never see official figures for iPhone 10 sales.
    04-24-2018 03:37 AM
  22. doogald's Avatar
    I say it's widely known in the industry because many people have contact with Apple's suppliers. A factory that is making fewer components than expected for Apple has the capacity (and need) to make more components for someone else. This affects the availability and pricing of components from that supplier to other customers.

    I don't think anyone is suggesting that sales of the iPhone 10 are truly bad, but they are lower than expected by a significant margin.
    “Given how poorly the iPhone 10 has sold...”. That’s exactly what you suggested a few posts back.

    Rumors which may be thrown out by people with an ax to grind. Also, Apple has multiple suppliers for as many parts as they can, and I’m sure for a phone like the X, using new technology, they may have asked suppliers to over-commit to parts in case another supplier had production issues, but their management would have known of this issue. We've seen stories like this in the past with many models of iPhone which turned out to be BS in the end. Also, this is the first time ever that Apple had two different product lines at the high end at the same time, and maybe some of the more naive suppliers were expecting that because Apple usually continues this year's product into next year's middle of the line phone, and it appears that Apple won’t do that with the X this year, that suppliers are mistaking reduced orders of components because the X won’t be continued with a guess that it’s not selling to expectations. Their fault, not Apple's.

    Again, I don’t know, you don’t know, only Apple knows if they are reaching their targets. We’ll find out soon enough. (If sales are better or as well as expected, I bet they will say on the call. If they don't say that, maybe we can infer that they were worse than expected.)
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    04-24-2018 08:10 AM
  23. anony_mouse's Avatar
    “Given how poorly the iPhone 10 has sold...”. That’s exactly what you suggested a few posts back.

    Rumors which may be thrown out by people with an ax to grind. Also, Apple has multiple suppliers for as many parts as they can, and I’m sure for a phone like the X, using new technology, they may have asked suppliers to over-commit to parts in case another supplier had production issues, but their management would have known of this issue. We've seen stories like this in the past with many models of iPhone which turned out to be BS in the end. Also, this is the first time ever that Apple had two different product lines at the high end at the same time, and maybe some of the more naive suppliers were expecting that because Apple usually continues this year's product into next year's middle of the line phone, and it appears that Apple won’t do that with the X this year, that suppliers are mistaking reduced orders of components because the X won’t be continued with a guess that it’s not selling to expectations. Their fault, not Apple's.

    Again, I don’t know, you don’t know, only Apple knows if they are reaching their targets. We’ll find out soon enough. (If sales are better or as well as expected, I bet they will say on the call. If they don't say that, maybe we can infer that they were worse than expected.)
    This is not how supplier relationships work (I know, I have worked in the industry). For example, it costs several billion dollars to build a factory to make certain components used in mobile phones. As the owner of that factory, you need to be pretty sure you can sell what you produce and you will know very well how many components your customers are planning to buy. You will likely want to share the risk with them in case numbers fall below expectations, especially in Apple's case because they probably take a large proportion of your output. If Apple routinely ask suppliers to "overcommit" to more phones than they expect to sell, then suppliers will stop working with Apple because they will lose money.

    Another report today suggests Apple's older products are outselling the iPhone 10 (although that's not necessarily the same thing as saying the iPhone 10 is selling fewer units than expected) - https://www.appmarsh.com/survey-find...ne-x-8-report/.

    What axe would I have to grind?
    04-24-2018 09:51 AM

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