1. Tartarus's Avatar
    I think there is more controversy on forums like this one than in real life. I'm an Android user, but I have family members and friends who use iPhones and those who use Android. Nobody really cares what device each person likes. The only time we ever look at each other's phones is when someone gets a new phone. As long as one likes what he or she gets, and is happy with it, the operating system or brand shouldn't matter.
    Clearly you’ve never seen my brother and brother-in-law and me.
    My brother has a Samsung thingie, the other an iPhone like me and they can’t ever agree with me on how awesome the iPhone is.

    I don’t like them very much because of that
    Last edited by Tartarus; 12-08-2017 at 08:40 PM.
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    12-08-2017 05:07 PM
  2. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Clearly you’ve never seen my brother and brother-in-law and me.
    My brother has a Samsung thingie, my other an iPhone like me and they can’t ever agree with me on how awesome the iPhone is.

    I don’t like them very much because of that
    I hope they don't argue so much about sports!
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    12-08-2017 05:25 PM
  3. darius_robin's Avatar
    The thing is that Android is a larger ecosystem, with many companies, which means more fanboys. These Android "fanboys" are much more than those of Apple, which also means more criticism. That’s just one factor, I believe.
    12-09-2017 08:31 AM
  4. jj2339's Avatar
    The thing is that Android is a larger ecosystem, with many companies, which means more fanboys. These Android "fanboys" are much more than those of Apple, which also means more criticism. That’s just one factor, I believe.
    That logic seems off. Yea Android has more companies, and that waters down the percentages, which leads to some Android users fighting amongst whether Samsung or HTC are best, but not sure why Android fragmentation drives more fanboys? There is a higher percentage of people on Android overall than iOS, I bet most people could care less what others use.

    I see rudeness on both sides, I don't see Android fans any worse than the iOS true believers when it comes to forums.
    12-10-2017 08:35 AM
  5. Rob Phillips's Avatar
    That logic seems off. Yea Android has more companies, and that waters down the percentages, which leads to some Android users fighting amongst whether Samsung or HTC are best, but not sure why Android fragmentation drives more fanboys? There is a higher percentage of people on Android overall than iOS, I bet most people could care less what others use.

    I see rudeness on both sides, I don't see Android fans any worse than the iOS true believers when it comes to forums.
    I think he was just stating that there is power in numbers so Android would naturally have more fanboys than Apple. I agree that the vast majority of users don’t really care what everyone else is using. I’m a huge Apple fan but that’s only because it works best for my needs, I’m invested in the ecosystem and I’ve been using Apple products for over 30 years so I’m loyal to the brand. I honestly couldn’t care less what everyone else is using (unless you’re the ONE guy in the office using Android and it messes with all of our group texts. Darn that guy!).
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    12-10-2017 08:59 AM
  6. DMP89145's Avatar
    These types of posts seem to get a chuckle out of me. This debate is just so ... beaten to death. People have different opinions about all sorts of things... sports teams, music, politics, favorite foods, cars, ways to exercise .. whatever. Yet, on tech blogs/forums people can be some of the most passionate.

    Nothing is controversial about Apple or the iPhone. They sell 100's millions of phones every year. Just like there's no controversy of Samsung, who also sells 100's million phones every year. The vast majority of people just don't care and, no, the two people a year you might run into in normal life that likes to jaw it up about your device, any device, doesn't constitute the "everybody" or "so many people".

    Tech sites are great. They gives us a place to discuss things we like with a like minded community. But there are real issues in the world, like the lack of fresh water for some people in the world, that get less press attention than whether or not a phone has wireless charging or not.

    My advice, some one has something to say about "whatever" device from ABC company. Just smile and get on with your day. Visiting tech blogs/forums .. well, welcome to the internet.

    Happy Holidays to you guys!
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    12-10-2017 11:30 AM
  7. Rob Phillips's Avatar
    Nothing is controversial about Apple or the iPhone. They sell 100's millions of phones every year. Just like there's no controversy of Samsung, who also sells 100's million phones every year. The vast majority of people just don't care and, no, the two people a year you might run into in normal life that likes to jaw it up about your device, any device, doesn't constitute the "everybody" or "so many people".
    I kind of disagree here. Apple, Samsung and their devices have definitely been involved in controversy over the years. Some examples:

    - Apple got into hot water for refusing to help the FBI break into a mass shooter’s iPhone.
    - Note 7 devices had such bad battery problems that airlines were banning them from flights.
    - An Apple supplier made headlines for not obeying Chinese child labor laws in order to push out more iPhone X units.
    - Samsung had to change the language in its face unlock guidance after users reported that photographs of the person could be used to unlock devices.

    Sure, Android having wireless charging way before Apple is not real controversy, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t any.
    12-10-2017 01:55 PM
  8. DMP89145's Avatar
    I kind of disagree here. Apple, Samsung and their devices have definitely been involved in controversy over the years. Some examples:

    - Apple got into hot water for refusing to help the FBI break into a mass shooter’s iPhone.
    - Note 7 devices had such bad battery problems that airlines were banning them from flights.
    - An Apple supplier made headlines for not obeying Chinese child labor laws in order to push out more iPhone X units.
    - Samsung had to change the language in its face unlock guidance after users reported that photographs of the person could be used to unlock devices.

    Sure, Android having wireless charging way before Apple is not real controversy, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t any.
    We can agree to disagree, as I don't see any of those as any unusual amount of controversy than any other company would face. To clarify, every company has missteps and "DOH!" type moments as they are impossible to avoid and people will discuss them. But with a titling like "Why are iPhone so controversial?" suggests that there are more disagreements about iPhones than any others. I just don't see it that way...

    Put this way, Google's Pixel won't even sell 5-6 million phones Y-o-Y, yet every tech blog, along with the also rans, chimed in daily for 2 months solid with sensationalism on full tilt. Now in relative terms, a phone brand with a fraction of the market share shouldn't even caused a batted eye, but it did. Does that the Pixel Brand more controversial than Apple since October? How can it if the user base is so small?

    It's all even for everyone, no more for this brand or that brand. I mean Samsung's leadership is in shambles, yet they'll sell more phones than ever before.
    12-10-2017 03:21 PM
  9. Rob Phillips's Avatar
    We can agree to disagree, as I don't see any of those as any unusual amount of controversy than any other company would face. To clarify, every company has missteps and "DOH!" type moments as they are impossible to avoid and people will discuss them. But with a titling like "Why are iPhone so controversial?" suggests that there are more disagreements about iPhones than any others. I just don't see it that way...

    Put this way, Google's Pixel won't even sell 5-6 million phones Y-o-Y, yet every tech blog, along with the also rans, chimed in daily for 2 months solid with sensationalism on full tilt. Now in relative terms, a phone brand with a fraction of the market share shouldn't even caused a batted eye, but it did. Does that the Pixel Brand more controversial than Apple since October? How can it if the user base is so small?

    It's all even for everyone, no more for this brand or that brand. I mean Samsung's leadership is in shambles, yet they'll sell more phones than ever before.
    Apple’s refusal to back down to demands from the Department of Justice after the San Bernardino shooting is perhaps the most controversial moment in the history of the tech industry. It led news headlines for weeks and is still being discussed today. It also set the stage for an ongoing debate concerning criminal justice and privacy. If that isn’t controversy then apparently we have a much different definition of the world.
    I’m not saying that Apple is overly controversial but your initial claim that absolutely nothing about Apple or the iPhone is controversial just doesn’t seem realistic to me.
    Last edited by Rob Phillips; 12-11-2017 at 02:50 PM.
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    12-11-2017 02:28 PM
  10. jj2339's Avatar
    Apple’s refusal to back down to demands from the Department of Justice after the San Bernardino shooting is perhaps the most controversial moment in the history of the tech industry. It led news headlines for weeks and is still being discussed today. It also set the stage for an ongoing debate concerning criminal justice and privacy. If that isn’t controversy then apparently we have a much different definition of the world.
    I’m not saying that Apple is overly controversial but your initial claim that absolutely nothing about Apple or the iPhone is controversial just doesn’t seem realistic to me.
    Right, but the question was why are iPhones controversial, not whether digital privacy in the 21st century was controversial. Insert Amazon and the Alexa murder case, or other examples of law enforcement or foreign powers demanding access to digital information, it's not unique to apple. Or unique to the iPhone.
    12-11-2017 06:42 PM
  11. Rob Phillips's Avatar
    Right, but the question was why are iPhones controversial, not whether digital privacy in the 21st century was controversial. Insert Amazon and the Alexa murder case, or other examples of law enforcement or foreign powers demanding access to digital information, it's not unique to apple. Or unique to the iPhone.
    I wasn’t making any claims that any of this was unique to Apple, only citing an example in response to someone stating that Apple has never been involved in controversy.
    My first response in this thread states my position regarding the original topic posted in this thread.
    12-11-2017 07:44 PM
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