1. Blaalad12's Avatar
    Something i did not know about the iphone x is that it seemingly comes with 3 different model numbers? The two i give in the title are allegedly the two main models. Obviously i did a quick google search and essentially learned that one has a qualcom chip while the other has intel. Seemingly the Qualcom chip is superior but iam at a loss as to why one would have an inferior chip and what does this actually mean with regards user experience?

    The company i generally order from list the iphone x as the A1901 model which has the intel chip. Iam wondering what am i missing out on by not having the Qualcom chip?

    Can anyone explain?
    11-24-2017 03:33 PM
  2. dejanh's Avatar
    Something i did not know about the iphone x is that it seemingly comes with 3 different model numbers? The two i give in the title are allegedly the two main models. Obviously i did a quick google search and essentially learned that one has a qualcom chip while the other has intel. Seemingly the Qualcom chip is superior but iam at a loss as to why one would have an inferior chip and what does this actually mean with regards user experience?

    The company i generally order from list the iphone x as the A1901 model which has the intel chip. Iam wondering what am i missing out on by not having the Qualcom chip?

    Can anyone explain?
    While I know that this will elicit a flood of "I have no problems" responses, yes, there appears to be a flaw currently on the A1901 model that uses the Intel modem. This model seems to have issues with LTE dropouts as it does not appear to be able to correctly switch between towers in all instances. It also has a tendency to hang onto a low signal too long, to the point where LTE will just stop working and has difficulty switching between 3G and LTE (both step-down and step-up). Obviously depending on the network and the coverage in a given area, the problem will be better or worse, and most may not notice this unless they are actively on their phone utilizing the cellular network for multiple hours per day (most are not since most data plans are limited and this does not affect Wi-Fi, only cellular LTE). I personally have unlimited data and am on cellular all the time, never on Wi-Fi, plus I am actively on my phone 4-5 hours per day, every day.

    The A1901 is also not a true global phone because it will not work with any CDMA carriers like Verizon, Sprint, or China Telecom. The A1865 is a true global phone and on top of it all it uses a proven Qualcomm modem instead of the problematic Intel one.

    I would strongly recommend buying an unlocked A1865 if you can at all, and staying away from the A1901.
    11-24-2017 04:02 PM
  3. ZOFOURTWENTY's Avatar
    How do you know which model you have?
    11-24-2017 05:46 PM
  4. Blaalad12's Avatar
    How do you know which model you have?
    settings - about phone, i imagine
    11-24-2017 05:47 PM
  5. ZOFOURTWENTY's Avatar
    settings - about phone, i imagine
    Thanks. You have to Long press Model Info to have it convert the mode #. Luckily I have an A1865
    11-24-2017 05:49 PM
  6. Blaalad12's Avatar
    Thanks. You have to Long press Model Info to have it convert the mode #. Luckily I have an A1865
    Thats the model most will have in the states i believe! The A1901 is mostly geared toward the European market
    11-24-2017 06:07 PM
  7. LCW's Avatar
    AT&T & T-Mobile = A1901
    Verizon & Sprint = A1865

    Verizon is unlocked. Sprint is carrier locked.
    11-25-2017 12:13 AM
  8. darius_robin's Avatar
    Qualcomm = A1865
    Intel = A1901
    The third one is only sold in Japan = A1902
    11-25-2017 01:30 AM
  9. EagleFox007's Avatar
    Thanks. You have to Long press Model Info to have it convert the mode #. Luckily I have an A1865
    Just tap the model no long press needed
    11-25-2017 08:25 AM
  10. EagleFox007's Avatar
    Yey! I'm glad I have the intel chip! According to speed test report, it's faster than the qualcomm chip!

    http://bgr.com/2017/11/14/iphone-x-s...-vs-intel/amp/
    11-25-2017 08:31 AM
  11. Snoweagle's Avatar
    Mine's A1901. Here in Singapore only this model is sold.
    11-25-2017 09:47 AM
  12. AugustVance's Avatar
    If you buy your phone at Walmart/sams club/bestbuy/target they sell the universal A1865 model.

    That’s what I did. Unlocked it with old Verizon SIM card and then stuck my att SIM card in it after iTunes said my iPhone as successfully unlocked. Thinking about switch to T-Mobile beginning of the year so wanted to be flexible.
    11-25-2017 07:18 PM
  13. dflyer's Avatar
    settings - about phone, i imagine
    I literally went to settings/about/and looked for I imagine. Smh
    I have a 1901 here in Canada
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    11-26-2017 01:14 AM
  14. dejanh's Avatar
    I literally went to settings/about/and looked for I imagine. Smh
    I have a 1901 here in Canada
    Hahahaha
    11-26-2017 02:17 AM
  15. COMMISSIONERHBK9's Avatar
    I have a1865 is that good or bad
    11-28-2017 01:38 AM
  16. Tartarus's Avatar
    I have a1865 is that good or bad
    There are no bad iPhones.

    While Qualcomm may have better specs and even perform better in some circumstances, Intel performs well within the specifications that Apple expects from their devices.

    Just enjoy your iPhone.
    Just_Me_D likes this.
    11-28-2017 02:19 AM
  17. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Thanks. You have to Long press Model Info to have it convert the mode #. Luckily I have an A1865
    You don’t have to ‘long press’. Simply tapping on the model line is sufficient.
    11-28-2017 07:52 AM
  18. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    ....

    The A1901 is also not a true global phone because it will not work with any CDMA carriers like Verizon, Sprint, or China Telecom.
    That in and of itself is not a negative. How many people you know travel the world? Heck a majority of people never even leave their state. I’d argue that people who are using a CDMA carrier only cares about price and reliability.
    The A1865 is a true global phone and on top of it all it uses a proven Qualcomm modem instead of the problematic Intel one.
    Problematic? To whom? How many people outside of tech forums even know about or even care about having an Intel or Qualcomm modem? I argue that less it’s less than 1%.

    I would strongly recommend buying an unlocked A1865 if you can at all, and staying away from the A1901.
    That’s crazy! You’re making that recommendation without giving any thought to people’s wireless needs and circumstances. On top of that, you’re assuming that everyone with an Intel modem is unhappy and having problems with it and that’s far from being true. It’s okay to educate people on the differences, but once you inject your personal preference and then state that it should be the preferred choice, you’ve gone from educating to dictating.
    Last edited by Just_Me_D; 11-28-2017 at 12:47 PM.
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    11-28-2017 08:06 AM
  19. aidmyaim's Avatar
    For people like me who travel to Europe the 1901 is just fine for global travel✌️
    11-28-2017 08:43 AM
  20. LCW's Avatar
    Given the choice, A1865 offers the most versatility.
    dejanh and zenjen like this.
    11-28-2017 09:42 AM
  21. dejanh's Avatar
    That in and of itself is not a negative. How many people you know travel the world? Heck a majority of people never even leave their state. I’d argue that people who are using a CDMA carrier only cares about price and reliability. Problematic? To whom? How many people outside of tech forums even know about or even care about having an Intel or Qualcomm modem? I argue that less it’s less than 1%.


    That’s crazy! You’re making that recommendation without giving any thought to people’s wireless needs and circumstances. On top of that, you’re assuming that everyone with an Intel modem is unhappy and having problems with it and that’s far from being true. It’s okay to educate people on the differences, but once you inject your personal preference and then state that it should be the preferred choice, you’ve gone from educating to dictating.
    Fact is that A1865 supports all of the frequency bands of the A1901 and on top of that adds compatibility with additional networks/frequencies not offered on the A1901. It is therefore factually a more capable, versatile device, therefore a better buy in all cases, no exception. If you can purchase a device outright, go for the A1865, not A1901.

    In addition to that, because the A1865 uses the Qualcomm modem that is tried and true, compared to Intel that is still experiencing growing pains it is likely to perform better in low signal areas, in addition to offering more throughput on average. (I work for a telecommunications equipment manufacturer and we have also started to shift to Intel for cost reasons, however performance of Intel modems compared to Qualcomm has been sub-par, especially in low signal areas. I have also personally tested other Qualcomm devices including past iPhones - albeit not the A1865 - against the iPhone X and there is a noticeable difference.)

    The A1865 is a safer, more capable choice, in every sense.

    Given the choice, A1865 offers the most versatility.
    Definitely. If you’re buying outright it offers the best choice.
    Last edited by dejanh; 11-28-2017 at 01:21 PM.
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    11-28-2017 10:25 AM
  22. Snoweagle's Avatar
    By the way...it seems like A1865 is faster than A1901 now.

    https://www.macrumors.com/2017/12/01...er-than-intel/
    12-02-2017 06:11 AM
  23. Tartarus's Avatar
    By the way...it seems like A1865 is faster than A1901 now.

    https://www.macrumors.com/2017/12/01...er-than-intel/
    Yeah, only under laboratory circumstances.
    Real life circumstances will vary, wherein the A1901 will prove to be equally fast.
    Snoweagle likes this.
    12-02-2017 06:23 AM
  24. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Fact is that A1865 supports all of the frequency bands of the A1901 and on top of that adds compatibility with additional networks/frequencies not offered on the A1901. It is therefore factually a more capable, versatile device, therefore a better buy in all cases, no exception. If you can purchase a device outright, go for the A1865, not A1901.

    In addition to that, because the A1865 uses the Qualcomm modem that is tried and true, compared to Intel that is still experiencing growing pains it is likely to perform better in low signal areas, in addition to offering more throughput on average. (I work for a telecommunications equipment manufacturer and we have also started to shift to Intel for cost reasons, however performance of Intel modems compared to Qualcomm has been sub-par, especially in low signal areas. I have also personally tested other Qualcomm devices including past iPhones - albeit not the A1865 - against the iPhone X and there is a noticeable difference.)

    The A1865 is a safer, more capable choice, in every sense.


    Definitely. If you’re buying outright it offers the best choice.
    Are you happier with your A1865 than I am with my A1901? What are things the typical user does every day on an A1865 that cannot be done on an A1901? Don’t get me wrong, I get what you’re saying and I’m not in disagreement, however, I think you’re putting way too much emphasis on technical specs and not taking into consideration the every day smartphone needs that are being fulfilled by the A1901. That’s all.
    Last edited by Just_Me_D; 12-02-2017 at 08:42 AM.
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    12-02-2017 07:36 AM
  25. aidmyaim's Avatar
    Every day usage for me I still get signal where I usually got it, and don’t where I didn’t. There’s no difference for me.
    12-02-2017 08:23 AM

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