1. robinhelene's Avatar
    I update my iPhones every year and have had a new Plus each year excluding the 8. I am strongly considering exchanging the X for the 8 + but I am not sure yet. Would love to hear what some other X owners think, especially those coming from the Plus. Some of my complaints are personal small stuff so it may not be relevant to everyone.

    1.) One of the most frustrating things for me is the new gestures. I can definitely see it having a ton of upside in the future. As someone constantly switching back and forth between apps due to work (twitter, pay pal, email, text, safari, etc) I can honestly say I found it 10x easier to do on the Plus. Don't even get me started on what seems like a nightmare to hard close apps.

    2.) For a company that relies so heavily on aesthetics "the notch issue" is quite annoying, almost shocking Apple would release it like this. I don't really use my iphone to watch movies or videos but if you do I can see it being a big deal. This is one of those things you almost have to ignore and just wait/hope that it won't be like this next year. Some people may not find it to be that big of a deal.

    Its not the end of the world, but I definitely miss the battery % always being displayed.

    3a.) The Face ID works pretty flawlessly. However, one of the issues I keep coming across is sometimes in the morning when I grab my phone and my eyes are half shut it won't work. The other extremely annoying thing is sometimes I will pick up my phone but the screen stays black and tapping on it wont turn it on so I either have to shake or press the button on the side. Its suppose to automatically turn on when you raise it but thats not always the case.

    3b.) A large part of my business is done on my phone I send out dozens of payments to people on Pay Pal everyday and being able to just use my thumb to log in saves a lot of time! For now the only solution I found is to use the 4 digit pin to log in.i Its also nice to be able to log in my credit card and a few other apps using just my thumb.

    This issue can easily be fixed in time though I wasn't able to find much information. Does anyone know if companies like Pay Pal, American Express etc will be adding the Face ID for a log in option or are the X users going to have to take a step here?

    4.) I know this rocks the best camera Apple has ever released but the photos/pictures are small on the screen. Whenever I took a photo with my Plus it was HUGE, you could see the entire thing on the ENTIRE screen. If you take a picture with the X vertically or horizontally it appears on only around 60% of the screen as there pretty sizable black borders on the top and bottom.

    5.) When I got my first Plus I hated how big it was in my hand but eventually got used to it as the screen size totally made up for it. At first I liked the fact that the X was similar to the regular iPhones which made it easier to fit in your pocket and hold. I may need more time with the X to get used to but I am just so used to typing on the Plus that the X feels too narrow. Again, after 2+ years of using a + I understand there is an adjustment period.

    6.) Not really a complaint but more of a personal thing. So the screen is bigger than the Plus I believe. However, the fact that they made it ever so slightly more narrow is noticeable. Since the screen size is close to the Plus I thought of the X as the new iPhone Plus (as if Apple discontinued the smaller ones but it actually feels like the regular iPhone with more screen space which it kind of is. I hope they release an X Plus next year, but my only complaint is if I keep the X I am going to spend a year getting used to the smaller phone only to go back to the Plus size. I really miss the extra width of the Plus though even if there is more screen space on the X.

    7.) This isn't really a complaint as I am sure they will eventually be updated but sucks there are still many apps including Spotify that haven't been updated to be compatible with the X.

    THE GOOD

    1.) One thing I want to point out is how fast and seamless everything is. These last 2 months but 7 + has becoming ridiculously slow, laggy, and was constantly temporary freezing in some apps. I have plenty of space but it seems to me with some of these Apple products that after 10-12 months of use they just don't perform the same, so the X is quite refreshing in that sense.

    2.) I saw some posts about the audio and I'd have to say that more or less music sounds the same as on the 7+, but if you really pay close attention I'd definitely give a slight edge to the X, its a tiny bit more rich, but again, nothing that is really noticeable.

    3.) Same goes for this new screen. Its definitely better, but if you asked your mom if she could she a difference I would doubt she would be able to notice a difference. No question its better but don't expect going a difference like 1080P to 4K.

    4.) Its nice to have a smaller screen as its easier and put in your pocket, but as I said above the X feels more like an updated regular iphone so if you're coming from the Plus don't expect this to be like a Plus without the borders (which is what I thought for some reason)

    5.) I have not seen the 8+ camera yet but this for sure has the best camera of any phone I've ever seen.

    I am not giving up on the X yet, but I definitely miss the size of the Plus. I am tempted to switch it for an 8+ but I also really like the side-to-side screen, the OLED screen (I don't think the 8+ has this?), the camera, and I don't recall but I am going to assume the X is more powerful than the 8+. And of course the Apple charging pad will be a must for me when it comes out. I'll give it another week and then make up my mind. If you're coming from the regular iPhone than I think this is a winner for sure. But as someone who loves his + I am going to have to think a little. I definitely want to love and keep this phone though.

    Would love to hear what anyone else coming from a Plus thinks.
    I had the 8 plus and even though I liked the Plus phones ...i had the 6-8 versions....once I had the 8 plus it felt like it was a brick! At first i wasn’t going to get the X but then the day after preorder ...I decided I wanted it. I sold my phone on EBay and walked into Costco on Nov 3 and got the Space Grey one. I love this phone...the Face ID, though not perfect is so convenient...The camera is amazing and the OLED screen is really striking...it’s bright!! True some apps need to be optimized but that happened with the plus phones. The more I use this phone the more I appreciate the genius of it.
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    11-18-2017 10:25 PM
  2. TheLegoJoker's Avatar
    Been using a plus phone since the 6 came out and got spoiled by the excellent battery life. When I bought my iPhone X, battery life was one of my biggest concerns. For me, I’m getting nearly identical battery life from my X as I did from my 7 plus and 8 plus. Hate to hear people having issues with the battery, but for me it’s been everything I could have hoped for.
    Heck, I’ve even grown to like the notch. It’s different, sure, but instead of thinking about what we are losing behind the notch, I prefer to think of the little edges as bonus screen. Hahaha!
    Very pleased with the iPhone X, but I will most likely go with an X plus model next year if one is made available.
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    11-19-2017 12:32 AM
  3. Abu Khadija's Avatar
    Been using a plus phone since the 6 came out and got spoiled by the excellent battery life. When I bought my iPhone X, battery life was one of my biggest concerns. For me, I’m getting nearly identical battery life from my X as I did from my 7 plus and 8 plus. Hate to hear people having issues with the battery, but for me it’s been everything I could have hoped for.
    Heck, I’ve even grown to like the notch. It’s different, sure, but instead of thinking about what we are losing behind the notch, I prefer to think of the little edges as bonus screen. Hahaha!
    Very pleased with the iPhone X, but I will most likely go with an X plus model next year if one is made available.
    Yea me too. X plus the plus. It’ll be like X plus the 8 plus. A killer phone. Hope I can pocket it.
    11-19-2017 01:17 AM
  4. robinhelene's Avatar
    LOL see Flossy Carters review (1:45) the 8+ clearly has DOUBLE the battery life of the X. What else should I prove? I already posted screen shots. All of my apple devices have been crap since iOS 11 rolled out. My 6s+ was stellar for 2 years, then they rolled that out and I would have thought that new hardware would improve it, but that's not the case. Even my iPad Air 2 is on the charger 2 - 3 times a day. My X was on the charger all day yesterday and most of today.
    Hopefully they fix iOS 11
    11-19-2017 02:39 AM
  5. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    App switching is my biggest gripe, but everything else tops the Plus - especially ...
    I agree that the App Switcher could use some refining. Once I swipe up and pause to display the recently used/running apps, all I should have to do to close them out is swipe up without first having to press and hold.
    11-19-2017 08:14 AM
  6. Jude526's Avatar
    Thanks - nothing like a surprise triple bypass to start your weekend.

    I was super impressed with how the phone did in an emergency situation. I carry a battery pack and it simply wasn’t needed.
    I am going through a serious health issue myself. And blind sided by it as well.
    11-19-2017 07:29 PM
  7. mogelijk's Avatar
    I'm not sure what he's doing either. Last night, I was a 2h 17m usage and 22hr 50 mins standby on my iPhone X with 87% battery left. Tonight I'm at 68% with 4 hr 16 min usage and 42 hr 27 min standby. Something is definitely wrong if your phone isn't lasting you the day. And since I'm sure you'll want evidence:

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    11-19-2017 07:44 PM
  8. mtva24's Avatar
    I'm not sure what he's doing either. Last night, I was a 2h 17m usage and 22hr 50 mins standby on my iPhone X with 87% battery left. Tonight I'm at 68% with 4 hr 16 min usage and 42 hr 27 min standby. Something is definitely wrong if your phone isn't lasting you the day. And since I'm sure you'll want evidence:

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    Your brightness is probably on 0%.
    11-19-2017 08:20 PM
  9. robertk328's Avatar
    Well there's your problem.

    YouTube has an issue with iOS11: https://forums.imore.com/ios-11/3966...g-battery.html

    Also tap the little clock next to last 7 days to see what's really going on.
    11-19-2017 08:42 PM
  10. robertk328's Avatar
    I'm still at 25% with:

    7 hours, 48 min usage
    13 hour, 25 min standby

    1.4 hours of that usage was Madden NFL football (35%), with 1.1 hours of facebook (23%)

    Battery life on my X is fantastic.

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    11-19-2017 08:44 PM
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    11-19-2017 08:47 PM
  12. mtva24's Avatar
    Posts screenshots of battery being "fantastic" while brightness is clearly at 15%. Yup, great battery
    11-19-2017 10:18 PM
  13. metllicamilitia's Avatar
    Posts screenshots of battery being "fantastic" while brightness is clearly at 15%. Yup, great battery
    Auto brightness. And brightness doesn’t affect battery life to a drastic degree.
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    11-19-2017 10:24 PM
  14. mtva24's Avatar
    Auto brightness. And brightness doesn’t affect battery life to a drastic degree.
    It does with this screen. Hence the 8+ performing better...
    11-19-2017 10:25 PM
  15. Tartarus's Avatar
    Posts screenshots of battery being "fantastic" while brightness is clearly at 15%. Yup, great battery
    15% is enough if you’re not outside in bright sunlight.

    You can mock whatever you want, but most people don’t suffer bad battery life. So instead of being facetious, try looking for which apps clearly are a battery hog.
    11-19-2017 10:26 PM
  16. metllicamilitia's Avatar
    It does with this screen. Hence the 8+ performing better...
    I just want to clarify everyone is telling you your battery life isn’t normal and offering suggestions to improve it because it should be very similar to the 8+.
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    11-19-2017 10:26 PM
  17. mtva24's Avatar
    I just want to clarify everyone is telling you your battery life isn’t normal and offering suggestions to improve it because it should be very similar to the 8+.
    Just want to clarify that they are all terrible suggestions. I use my phone with max brightness, LTE, true tone off and auto-brightness off. That's why its being chewed and that is why I'm ignoring your silly suggestions. Haven't seen brightness mentioned anywhere... I've been using my Pixel all day, but my X has been idle connected to wifi. If it were my apps, then why am I at 98% with 10 hours of standby?
    11-19-2017 10:30 PM
  18. metllicamilitia's Avatar
    Just want to clarify that they are all terrible suggestions. I use my phone with max brightness, LTE, true tone off and auto-brightness off. That's why its being chewed and that is why I'm ignoring your silly suggestions. Haven't seen brightness mentioned anywhere... I've been using my Pixel all day, but my X has been idle connected to wifi. If it were my apps, then why am I at 98% with 10 hours of standby?
    That’s fine, most of us have been using iPhones for years and a number of us running betas with bad battery life. Of course our suggestions are terrible. The only thing you mentioned that does have some affect on battery life is brightness, but it wouldn’t change your usage to just a few hours.
    11-19-2017 10:36 PM
  19. Tartarus's Avatar
    Just want to clarify that they are all terrible suggestions. I use my phone with max brightness, LTE, true tone off and auto-brightness off. That's why its being chewed and that is why I'm ignoring your silly suggestions. Haven't seen brightness mentioned anywhere... I've been using my Pixel all day, but my X has been idle connected to wifi. If it were my apps, then why am I at 98% with 10 hours of standby?
    Than what’s the problem?
    You obviously know everything better than everybody.

    What is it that you want at this point from this thread?
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    11-19-2017 10:36 PM
  20. mtva24's Avatar
    That’s fine, most of us have been using iPhones for years and a number of us running betas with bad battery life. Of course our suggestions are terrible. The only thing you mentioned that does have some affect on battery life is brightness, but it wouldn’t change your usage to just a few hours.
    How can it not affect your usage if the display is chewing through your battery? Correct me if I’m wrong, but If you had a less power hungry display you would get more usage...it would be easier if we could just measure by screen on time like android.
    11-19-2017 10:40 PM
  21. metllicamilitia's Avatar
    How can it not affect your usage if the display is chewing through your battery? Correct me if I’m wrong, but If you had a less power hungry display you would get more usage...it would be easier if we could just measure by screen on time like android.
    I didn’t say it didn’t affect battery life, just that it wouldn’t reduce your usage to a few hours.
    11-19-2017 10:42 PM
  22. Tartarus's Avatar
    How can it not affect your usage if the display is chewing through your battery? Correct me if I’m wrong, but If you had a less power hungry display you would get more usage...it would be easier if we could just measure by screen on time like android.
    Go to Settings > Battery and tap the clock.
    You will see the Onscreen Time per app.
    And at the bottom of that screen you will see Usage: that is Onscreen Time.
    11-19-2017 10:44 PM
  23. metllicamilitia's Avatar
    @mtva24 I’m at 67% battery now. I will turn my brightness all the way up.

    11-19-2017 10:44 PM
  24. mtva24's Avatar
    Go to Settings > Battery and tap the clock.
    You will see the Onscreen Time per app.
    And at the bottom of that screen you will see Usage: that is Onscreen Time.
    Usage is not on-screen time. Usage is everything, including listening to music while your screen is off and syncing...
    11-19-2017 10:45 PM
  25. Tartarus's Avatar
    Usage is not on-screen time. Usage is everything, including listening to music while your screen is off and syncing...
    I don’t agree. Like I don’t agree with most of what you’ve been saying in this thread.
    11-19-2017 10:50 PM
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