1. bcandiolo's Avatar
    Apple does not have any competition, there are no other 4" phones like the SE. So why should they upgrade the already fastest 4" phone on Earth?
    libra89, krazyatom and RobertP1 like this.
    01-23-2017 10:44 PM
  2. aces99's Avatar
    Apple does not have any competition, there are no other 4" phones like the SE. So why should they upgrade the already fastest 4" phone on Earth?
    So they can sell more phones to people that already have the iPhone SE and will not upgrade to a phone bigger than the 4" phone. According to stats from Apple it was about 30%. That's a huge market and a lot of phones they are loosing out on. Also they already had the fastest 4" iPhone 5S and had no 4" competition when they came out with the SE.
    01-24-2017 12:47 PM
  3. bcandiolo's Avatar
    I would like Apple to produce another 4" iPhone version, may be not based on the wonderful SE (5s in steroids). IMO the SE is good as it is, I would not upgrade only for a better camera or faster processor.
    Maybe a smaller version of the iPhone 8 would more attractive to get
    Ralph Morgotch, libra89 and aces99 like this.
    01-24-2017 12:52 PM
  4. davidnc's Avatar
    I probably wouldn't upgrade even if a new version of the SE came out this year.I got this phone mainly for the small size .So far it's worked fine for me .It would take a major update before I updated to newer version of the SE. So maybe in a couple more years I will if an new SE was out by then
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    01-24-2017 06:47 PM
  5. anon(10101748)'s Avatar
    I probably wouldn't upgrade even if a new version of the SE came out this year.I got this phone mainly for the small size .So far it's worked fine for me .It would take a major update before I updated to newer version of the SE. So maybe in a couple more years I will if an new SE was out by then
    ^^^^This EXACTLY...the 30% market for the 4" SE was created by a need as the 5 and 5s was definitely slowing down and people were ready to upgrade but chose to stay because they didn't want increase size change shape etc.

    That same 30% market is relatively smaller. Maybe, just an opinion, would upgrade. An A10 processor, fast TouchID, 3D Touch, better screen. Some don't need that and others would have to give up battery life because all the extra internals.

    So for me it's two fold. Not nearly as many people even ready to or want to upgrade and the upgrade itself I don't think would be a big enough jump to entice a large enough market. Give it another cycle or two.
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    01-25-2017 07:08 AM
  6. sandycrane's Avatar
    128gb would do it for me.
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    01-25-2017 02:48 PM
  7. G1DRP's Avatar
    128gb would do it for me.
    I agree. I've got the 64Gb SE and I've only got 7Gb of free space.
    02-03-2017 03:13 PM
  8. Ralph Morgotch's Avatar
    I agree. I've got the 64Gb SE and I've only got 7Gb of free space.
    you need the battery Dr. app. Man I was down to two free gigs on my 16 GB 5C and now I've got six free gigs. That app a lifesaver
    02-03-2017 03:50 PM
  9. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    I don't ever see an iPhone SE refresh. IMO maybe not this year, but maybe the following year if demand is there they restyle the 4" iPhone 5 based SE. This year has all but confirmed 3 new phones already with an iPhone, iPhone Plus, and 3rd device with no bezel and integrated TouchID with potential Facial Recognition.

    Also, the SE was an easy decision. They had the left over 5 and 5s parts and A9 chips available. Just added Rose Gold. If new SE I'd love to see a Matte or Jet Black model
    When did Apple confirm the 3 new phones?
    02-05-2017 01:08 AM
  10. anon(10101748)'s Avatar
    MacRumors said that in March we will see an iPhone SE 128GB, a RED iPhone 7 and 7Plus, and iPad Pro 2.

    https://www.macrumors.com/2017/02/20...8gb-iphone-se/
    02-20-2017 04:33 PM
  11. aces99's Avatar
    In the article he doesn't state that there will never be a SE update/upgrade. He just states that there won't be one this year or until late 2017. There is a big difference between there won't be a SE refresh this year and there will never be a SE refresh. I think there will be a SE refresh but might not be every year. Hopefully Apple refreshes the SE because I will definitely buy one. Or maybe if they get rid of the bezel they can have a 4.7" iPhone in the exact same size of the 4". I would definitely get one of them. Nobody really knows what Apple is gonna do. Far for its all just speculation and rumours. Time will tell.
    02-20-2017 05:06 PM
  12. anon(10101748)'s Avatar
    In the article he doesn't state that there will never be a SE update/upgrade. He just states that there won't be one this year or until late 2017. There is a big difference between there won't be a SE refresh this year and there will never be a SE refresh. I think there will be a SE refresh but might not be every year. Hopefully Apple refreshes the SE because I will definitely buy one. Or maybe if they get rid of the bezel they can have a 4.7" iPhone in the exact same size of the 4". I would definitely get one of them. Nobody really knows what Apple is gonna do. Far for its all just speculation and rumours. Time will tell.
    All I was referring was to was the possibility of a 128GB SE model. Some people who love their SE are forced out because 64GB wasn't enough. That's all I was really intending to demonstrate. Other than storage the article doesn't discuss any other device changes so I see where you are coming from
    02-20-2017 07:01 PM
  13. aces99's Avatar
    All I was referring was to was the possibility of a 128GB SE model. Some people who love their SE are forced out because 64GB wasn't enough. That's all I was really intending to demonstrate. Other than storage the article doesn't discuss any other device changes so I see where you are coming from
    Ya I hear you, a 128GB SE would be nice. I would also like to see Apple get rid of the big bezel and have the 4.7" iPhone but the same size and form factor of the 4" SE. If they did get rid of the bezel the 4" SE could have a 4.7" screen without making the phone any bigger. So you would get the best of both worlds. But will Apple do that is another story. Hopefully they will because I would get one for sure.
    02-20-2017 07:32 PM
  14. xanadome's Avatar
    As PhoneDr referred to, the article is only saying that 128Gb version would be added. If I were to speculate, my guess is that the present form of the SE will stay as it is. The only refresh is storage upgrade, which does not change anything else. There appears to be 3 sizes/classes of iPhone coming this year, which includes 4.7 inch, bezel change or not. On top of it, Apple seems so eager to start assembling SE in India, which indicates to me that SE stays in its current package for foreseeable future. It would be nice to have a 4 inch size iPhone with bezel-less 4.7 inch with A10 chip etc. OTOH, I cannot see any reason that Apple suddenly drops SE. Addition of 128Gb storage size might be the indication that Apple continue to sell it in the 1st world market.
    02-20-2017 07:58 PM
  15. anon(10101748)'s Avatar
    As PhoneDr referred to, the article is only saying that 128Gb version would be added. If I were to speculate, my guess is that the present form of the SE will stay as it is. The only refresh is storage upgrade, which does not change anything else. There appears to be 3 sizes/classes of iPhone coming this year, which includes 4.7 inch, bezel change or not. On top of it, Apple seems so eager to start assembling SE in India, which indicates to me that SE stays in its current package for foreseeable future. It would be nice to have a 4 inch size iPhone with bezel-less 4.7 inch with A10 chip etc. OTOH, I cannot see any reason that Apple suddenly drops SE. Addition of 128Gb storage size might be the indication that Apple continue to sell it in the 1st world market.
    So if you look at the line up of SE, 7, and 7Plus from a screen dimension it's very interesting. You can almost lay the devices over each other. Examples:

    Lay the SE on top of the 7. If you went all screen edge to edge with the SE and no bezel the screen size would be the same as the 7.

    Here's were it gets super interning and rumor mill starts. Lay a 7 on top of a 7Plus. The 7 fits exactly and lines up to the screen dimensions on the Plus. The if you removed the bezel from 4.7" iPhone and went all screen edge to edge you'd have the screen real estate of a Plus.

    Think about that, if an iPhone 7 had no bezel, the screen would be as big as the Plus. So think about what that would mean for a Plus with no Bezel.

    Then there is the "middle" rumored device. A 4.7" standard, a Plus, and 5" inch all glass front back with all the bells and whistles.

    Appears that there will be something for everyone and everyone can count on innovation is some way which the 6s and 6s Plus IMO lacked against the 7 and 7 Plus. I really like my personal 7 but my work 6s works flawlessly.
    xanadome and libra89 like this.
    02-20-2017 10:39 PM
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