1. Rob Phillips's Avatar
    Nah. The dropped the ball on this one. I can see the need for creating a 4" device but come on, come up with something different or at least match the style of the 6 in the SE form factor. This is a big miss on Apple's part. Its just another 5S with some slight updates.
    It has all 6s internals except for 3D Touch. I'm not sure I would call a few design elements a big miss, nor would I refer to the hardware updates as slight.
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    03-21-2016 08:02 PM
  2. donnation's Avatar
    Likely would not have been a good decision to follow the 6S design since the battery would have really been small. The battery in the 6 & 6S is too small too many people.

    A 4in iPhone 6S would have had horrible battery life.
    I still think it was a big miss. They could have borrowed some designs from both phones instead of just repackaging a design that they've had forever.
    03-21-2016 08:02 PM
  3. donnation's Avatar
    It has all 6s internals except for 3D Touch. I'm not sure I would call a few design elements a big miss, nor would I refer to the hardware updates as slight.
    How much RAM does it have?
    03-21-2016 08:02 PM
  4. Rob Phillips's Avatar
    While I like the looks of the SE, and know a number of people who likely will be interested, I find no reason to go back down in size.

    I shudder at the thought of the return of that itty bitty keyboard.
    True story. My son's iPod Touch looks microscopic!
    03-21-2016 08:03 PM
  5. Rob Phillips's Avatar
    How much RAM does it have?
    It has 1 GB. Still a much better device than the 5s.
    03-21-2016 08:06 PM
  6. donnation's Avatar
    It has 1 GB. Still a much better device than the 5s.
    Right, so it's not all the 6S internals packed into a 5S body. I don't have anything against the phone, I just think Apple missed an opportunity to come up with a better alternative and are basically saying this design is the best there is for a 4" device. I don't believe that and think it was just the easiest option for them.
    03-21-2016 08:08 PM
  7. Rob Phillips's Avatar
    Right, so it's not all the 6S internals packed into a 5S body. I don't have anything against the phone, I just think Apple missed an opportunity to come up with a better alternative and are basically saying this design is the best there is for a 4" device. I don't believe that and think it was just the easiest option for them.
    Okay, you got me. I missed the fact that the SE only has 1 GB of RAM. Apple is very clever in its marketing. I'm assuming they felt that, from a marketing perspective, they didn't want the SE to look too much like the 6s. Who knows?
    03-21-2016 08:14 PM
  8. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    Nah. The dropped the ball on this one. I can see the need for creating a 4" device but come on, come up with something different or at least match the style of the 6 in the SE form factor. This is a big miss on Apple's part. Its just another 5S with some slight updates.
    Other than size, the 6s is just a slight upgrade from the 5s! If you want to see it that way.
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    03-21-2016 08:19 PM
  9. gzigoris's Avatar
    Having a iPhone 6S+ I don't think I could go back to a smaller phone. When I upgrade to the iPhone 7s+ I'll have some decisions to make.
    03-21-2016 08:19 PM
  10. hayden75's Avatar
    Yes no maybe so?
    03-21-2016 08:22 PM
  11. Mr. Wiggles's Avatar
    100% yes! I'll be excited to update my 5s to a brand new 4-inch phone
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    03-21-2016 08:23 PM
  12. Spencerdl's Avatar
    As much as I loved my 5s, and the design of it, I appreciate the SE . However I'm over that design and size. There is just no way I could ever go back to a 4 inch screen. That's just me and my eyes. I'm sure there are some who will enjoy and benefit from an upgrade to the SE. Good Luck.
    Last edited by Spencerdl; 03-21-2016 at 11:22 PM.
    03-21-2016 08:26 PM
  13. donnation's Avatar
    Other than size, the 6s is just a slight upgrade from the 5s! If you want to see it that way.
    Uh no. Completely different internals and completely different form factor.
    03-21-2016 08:36 PM
  14. redsandvb's Avatar
    This SE seems pretty much perfect for our one family member that's been sticking to their 5s...So I'd buy it, for them not me
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    03-21-2016 08:49 PM
  15. kazn3r's Avatar
    In a heartbeat
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    03-21-2016 09:00 PM
  16. robertk328's Avatar
    I still think it was a big miss. They could have borrowed some designs from both phones instead of just repackaging a design that they've had forever.
    Is that just your opinion or would you have bought one if that was the case? Are you not buying one because they didn't change the external design?
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    03-21-2016 09:00 PM
  17. andrewh70's Avatar
    What phone do you use now? No Touch ID?
    I would guess the $450 model is 16 gb.
    16 GB for $399 and 64 Gb for $499
    03-21-2016 09:52 PM
  18. hiosh's Avatar
    yeah, i'll update my 5s to se soon~

    although i had expected new design for 4 inch iPhone, but with A9 chip and other better specs, it's ok for me to update!
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    03-21-2016 10:53 PM
  19. cbosdell's Avatar
    I'm actually a lot more interested in the SE than I thought I would be. I really like the form-factor of my 5C and for the price it is a tempting upgrade.
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    03-21-2016 10:54 PM
  20. avokodo's Avatar
    My pocket wants me to buy one but my eyes don't, can't wait to check it out in store soon. The idea of such a good camera in such a small package, also I'll hold out for reviews of the battery life.

    Posted via the iMore App for Android
    libra89 likes this.
    03-22-2016 12:34 AM
  21. avokodo's Avatar
    Is there 100% confirmation of 1GB of RAM ?

    Posted via the iMore App for Android
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    03-22-2016 12:36 AM
  22. tnt4's Avatar
    I REALLY liked the form factor on the 5S. Even though I've gotten used to the size of the 6 and 6S, I still wouldn't mind the form factor of the 5S again as it was so easy to one-hand. That said, it's the little things that have me hooked on the 6S now... believe it or not, the apps I use that have taken advantage of 3D touch have me hooked. For example, I can deactivate/reactivate my home security cameras like that (*snaps fingers*) thanks to 3D touch. Those little things have me hooked, even if it is a gimmick the other 80% of the time.

    And I don't think it's 100% guaranteed, but by the lack of info out there, I'd put my money on it being about 99% that the SE has 1gb of RAM instead of 2gb.
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    03-22-2016 01:58 AM
  23. stlcheer's Avatar
    I wouldn't buy one because I love my 6s plus but it's a nice option for those who like the smaller phones.
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    03-22-2016 02:13 AM
  24. nivies93's Avatar
    I am really interested with iOS. I just stay with Android because of the specs. But instead of buying 5s, I would buy an SE to know if its really worth switching to iPhone.
    03-22-2016 03:21 AM
  25. anon(9776449)'s Avatar
    probably not! Today I got an iphone 6s plus and I'm completely comfortable with it. My hands are big and my fingers too! Ahahah So it fits very well. I don't intend to change to a smaller model
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    03-22-2016 04:40 AM
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