1. fubaracing7374's Avatar
    I don't think that is what I said. The Galaxy 3 blows the current iPhone out of the water. I have used the I phone for years, and this Android is the real deal. I really don't see want a longer phone. I think Apple has painted themselves in a corner. I remember when BlackBerry was top shelf. I think iOS is headed in the same direction. We shall see.

    Sent from my Galaxy S III using Tapatalk
    Touch Wiz is a joke. Until all Androids are running pure Google, it's going to be second to the iPhone.
    08-09-2012 08:32 AM
  2. ThePinkChameleon's Avatar
    i could not even focus long enough to read the whole opening statement posted by the OP, and i did not read everyones posts either.

    Now, is the iP4S the best device? for ME it is, but for someone else it may not be. Long and short of it, people choose different devices with what will fit their needs/wants the best - and that device they choose will be the BEST one for them
    08-09-2012 08:44 AM
  3. cardfan's Avatar
    i could not even focus long enough to read the whole opening statement posted by the OP, and i did not read everyones posts either.

    Now, is the iP4S the best device? for ME it is, but for someone else it may not be. Long and short of it, people choose different devices with what will fit their needs/wants the best - and that device they choose will be the BEST one for them
    This is true. But I would say very few have specific needs. When it comes to android, almost always those "specific needs" center around larger screens, being cheap, and customization. And probably in that order.

    If there's one big problem for Apple, it's how resolution dependent the apps are. We've gone over why they had to double resolution. For the 4" 16:9 move, Apple is having to get creative. But make no mistake, they're very limited in what they can do to increase screen size without disrupting all their apps. And it remains to be seen what effect on apps even the rumored increase will have.

    Android has never had this problem and it's why android makers can easily increase screen size (resulting in fragmentation). Even MS had to make some changes to allow higher resolutions.

    But something to keep in mind. Apple is definitely motivated and focused on iphone. Apple's iphone is 2/3 of their net income. It's by far the largest contributor to their margins. It's easily the most important product they have. It HAS to do well. Doing "well" doesn't mean leading in market share, it just means gradually increasing sales while keeping with their desired margin. Apple is a premium product only company, unlike their competition, although the competition does offer premium products as well.
    08-09-2012 09:13 AM
  4. reeneebob's Avatar
    Touch Wiz is a joke. Until all Androids are running pure Google, it's going to be second to the iPhone.
    Old TouchWiz yes. The version on the S3 is quite good. But truth be told, I simply use Apex launcher if I want a change.

    Sent from mah brainzzzzz via Galaxy S III and Tapatalk 2
    08-09-2012 09:22 AM
  5. toppa's Avatar
    Agree with zeteo with longer iPhone isn't the way to go, bad idea but heading in the direction of blackberry I doubt it. Why? Cause people have invested a lot in apps purchase and thats the reason I would buy a next iPhone but not until BB10 to see what rim is gonna offer
    08-09-2012 12:23 PM
  6. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    I don't think that is what I said. The Galaxy 3 blows the current iPhone out of the water. I have used the I phone for years, and this Android is the real deal. I really don't see want a longer phone. I think Apple has painted themselves in a corner. I remember when BlackBerry was top shelf. I think iOS is headed in the same direction. We shall see.

    Sent from my Galaxy S III using Tapatalk
    The Galaxy 3 is a fine phone, but nothing about it blows anything out of the water honestly in my opinion...it's just a good option for people who want to try something else (until the new iPhone is released). I still found the OS to be clunky, the camera was not even in the same ball park...it has a really nice screen though, and the phone feels solid (something you rarely find with android devices). It's a fine option, but it's no game changer.
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    08-09-2012 01:28 PM
  7. zeteo#IM's Avatar
    I am very anxious to see the next iPhone

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    08-09-2012 06:38 PM
  8. Fit24's Avatar
    Thee is no perfect smartphone. The "best smartphone" is the device that works best for you. I'm not sure why having the best smartphone is so important.
    08-11-2012 01:16 AM
  9. zeteo#IM's Avatar
    Thee is no perfect smartphone. The "best smartphone" is the device that works best for you. I'm not sure why having the best smartphone is so important.
    I agree!

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    08-11-2012 09:05 PM
  10. owlyn's Avatar
    I was a BB user (work supplied), and when it was upgrade time, we had the option to get any BB, Android or iPhone. I chose the 4s, and have been extremely happy with it. The only thing I miss is profiles, but it's not a big deal, and not worth jailbreaking for. I like the form factor, and that is the main reason I didn't go with a larger Android. Yes, a bigger screen is nice, but then I have a bigger phone to lug around all day. The iPhone screen is so good, that a bigger screen just isn't necessary for me. I am not looking forward to the iPhone 5 because of the bigger form factor.
    08-12-2012 08:43 AM
  11. EW800#AC's Avatar
    I was a BB user (work supplied), and when it was upgrade time, we had the option to get any BB, Android or iPhone. I chose the 4s, and have been extremely happy with it. The only thing I miss is profiles, but it's not a big deal, and not worth jailbreaking for. I like the form factor, and that is the main reason I didn't go with a larger Android. Yes, a bigger screen is nice, but then I have a bigger phone to lug around all day. The iPhone screen is so good, that a bigger screen just isn't necessary for me. I am not looking forward to the iPhone 5 because of the bigger form factor.
    I am pretty much in the same boat. I have been a BB user through work for many years, however will be switching to the iPhone 5 when it comes out next month (thought about the SGS3, but will likely make it the iPhone 5). I will miss the easy profile selection that BB offers. By nature of my job, I have to have my phone available for calls at night when sleeping, however want to silence all e-mail's and text messages. The calls that I will get could come from any of about 400 numbers, so it is not real feasible to use the whitelist of the Do Not Disturb function, or whatever it is called. I really hope that iOS6 will have an easy way for phone calls to come through, but everything else silenced.

    Looking forward to the iPhone experience!
    Last edited by EW8000; 08-12-2012 at 10:52 AM.
    08-12-2012 09:24 AM
  12. mjh483's Avatar
    To say that the iPhone 4S is the "best smartphone" in today's day and age is simply NOT true. I'm glad that the 4S is the best for "you", but it certainly isn't the best for "all" which is what your OP is trying to imply.
    Yes, I do mean that it is not only best for me, it is generally the best for everyone. Customer satisfaction of iPhones is the highest of all. Now people are saying that they want bigger screens, but just a few years ago 3.5 inches was enough for everyone. iPhone's screen looks small because you compare it to other phones. It has all the features most people want or need in a very seamless and easy- to-use way.
    08-13-2012 03:07 AM
  13. Henryfranz2005's Avatar
    If only the new iphone would have a 4inch screen. That would be the best. Im not a fanboy , i tried both sides. Apple and samsung galaxy s2. I have them both. Sgs2 is good for multimedia but iphone is good for be it multimedia, games, good apps. Application development in apple is better than android.
    08-13-2012 04:04 AM
  14. Roo Zilla's Avatar
    If there's not "best smartphone," is there a "worst smartphone?" What would qualify as worst now? Some Symbian device or a low end Android? Maybe even BB? Just curious what people think.
    08-13-2012 05:13 AM
  15. GingerSnapsBack's Avatar
    If there's not "best smartphone," is there a "worst smartphone?" What would qualify as worst now? Some Symbian device or a low end Android? Maybe even BB? Just curious what people think.
    I think that falls in line with there is no general all around worst smart phone. I think for each person, there is a best smart phone and a worst smart phone. Each person has what works for them and what wouldn't work for them and they base their choice on that.
    08-13-2012 10:22 AM
  16. roll-tide's Avatar

    Sure, that Samsung S3 looks bigger and thinner. Has some better internals. (it better, it takes better to run android). But it runs an old android version. It boasts over 50 preinstalled bloatware apps & a skin that aren't exactly from Google. You deal with carriers. You need insurance. Apple's stuff is pretty much off limits (facetime, imessage, etc). Backup/restore isn't as seamless. You may get another update..someday, you may not. Resale isn't as great. Support stinks.

    I'm sure for some, an android is a better choice. Just like public schools might be better choices for some.
    1) It runs Android 4.0.4 out of the box, the newest version of Android available on a phone....so you're wrong there.

    2) On my Verizon S3, I've got MAYBE 10 bloatware apps at the most...all of which can be disabled without rooting, so again, you're wrong.
    08-13-2012 10:48 AM
  17. roll-tide's Avatar

    And many people have also replied that some Android super phones surpass iPhone in many ways. I would appreciate if you guys can elaborate.
    For me,

    The bigger screen of my S3 makes it WAY easier on my eyes when watching videos or reading text....as does the text reflow in Boat Browser, that re-wraps the text to fit the screen no matter how far you zoom in. (iPhone has never done this, and NO the reader option is nowhere near as nice)

    LTE is a no brainer...sure the next iPhone will have it, but for this argument that doesn't really matter. If i can get 60-70mbps, have a huge HD screen, AND have a battery that easily lasts 12-18 hours with (in my definition) moderate-heavy usage, then I'm a happy camper.

    Those are the main reasons I chose to leave my iPhone behind, things that "surpass the iPhone" as you say. Other things that are, in my experience, on par with the 4S are the camera, voice quality, quality of apps (that I use), and overall user experience/reliablity. So, again, FOR ME, there is absolutely no reason to still be using an iPhone.

    Also, I'm increasingly getting fed up with Apple's "if you can't beat em, sue em" philosophy...quit suing every other phone manufacturer because they sell also sell a phone that is rectangular, has a bezel, and has a touchscreen and spend that effort on coming up with something NEW an innovative instead of making the SAME phone but slightly taller to accommodate a marginally larger screen. By that philosophy, I guess my Samsung TV was a rip-off of a Sony TV that was made first...stupid.
    08-13-2012 11:07 AM
  18. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    For me,

    The bigger screen of my S3 makes it WAY easier on my eyes when watching videos or reading text....as does the text reflow in Boat Browser, that re-wraps the text to fit the screen no matter how far you zoom in. (iPhone has never done this, and NO the reader option is nowhere near as nice)

    LTE is a no brainer...sure the next iPhone will have it, but for this argument that doesn't really matter. If i can get 60-70mbps, have a huge HD screen, AND have a battery that easily lasts 12-18 hours with (in my definition) moderate-heavy usage, then I'm a happy camper.

    Those are the main reasons I chose to leave my iPhone behind, things that "surpass the iPhone" as you say. Other things that are, in my experience, on par with the 4S are the camera, voice quality, quality of apps (that I use), and overall user experience/reliablity. So, again, FOR ME, there is absolutely no reason to still be using an iPhone.

    Also, I'm increasingly getting fed up with Apple's "if you can't beat em, sue em" philosophy...quit suing every other phone manufacturer because they sell also sell a phone that is rectangular, has a bezel, and has a touchscreen and spend that effort on coming up with something NEW an innovative instead of making the SAME phone but slightly taller to accommodate a marginally larger screen. By that philosophy, I guess my Samsung TV was a rip-off of a Sony TV that was made first...stupid.
    Since you wanted to point out what cardfan was "wrong" about...let's start with this post...

    - The camera. It's not in the same league...it's not a terrible camera like you would find on pretty much every other android device, but the GS3's camera is just not as good as the 4S's...it's on par with the iPhone 4's at best.

    - Reliability...are you joking? The reliability of this phone is based on the reliability of the firmware it's running, and there hasn't been an android firmware out long enough in a reliable state to consider any of the phones reliable.

    - 12-18 hours of battery usage under moderate load...sorry, it just isn't true.

    ...and to speak on your issue with Apple suing everyone, in case you've forgotten, Samsung threw the first punch years ago, filing motions against Apple which can be traced back to exact days...Apple in turn threw their legal team at the issue and told them to go to town. In the end, it's the story of grabbing a bull by the horns, you better be prepared for what happens next. Having this attitude of negativity towards Apple because of this is foolish and misdirected...what would you do if payed your buddy to build car hoods for a new car you just designed and put on the market, then your buddy threatens you with legal issues after taking that same hood he builds for you and applies it to his own car that competes directly with you? If you say you wouldn't take legal actions, you're full of sh*t.
    08-13-2012 12:09 PM
  19. roll-tide's Avatar
    Since you wanted to point out what cardfan was "wrong" about...let's start with this post...

    - The camera. It's not in the same league...it's not a terrible camera like you would find on pretty much every other android device, but the GS3's camera is just not as good as the 4S's...it's on par with the iPhone 4's at best.
    I use my phone primarily to take pictures of my son, and the photos that I have taken with both phones are comparable...FACT. I have actually had both phones and have the pics to prove that the camera on this phone is on par with my old iPhone 4S. I would post them but I am not gonna post pictures of my son on here.

    - Reliability...are you joking? The reliability of this phone is based on the reliability of the firmware it's running, and there hasn't been an android firmware out long enough in a reliable state to consider any of the phones reliable.
    Reliable as in: I have had zero apps that have force closed..not one time has it rebooted on its own..haven't noticed any lag..stuff like that...basically the same as people saying "it just works" about an iPhone

    - 12-18 hours of battery usage under moderate load...sorry, it just isn't true.
    That's funny...between the two of us, who do you think would know about MY phone better? Here's a screenshot I had saved on the phone...
    08-13-2012 12:31 PM
  20. roll-tide's Avatar
    Here's a pic I had on the phone taken at a park

    sent using my Galaxy S3
    08-13-2012 12:40 PM
  21. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    Nothing to do with the thread, but I wanted to tell Roll-Tide that Nick Saban is a God.
    08-13-2012 01:26 PM
  22. roll-tide's Avatar
    Lol... Well I don't know if i would say that, but he IS an awesome coach.

    sent using my Galaxy S3
    08-13-2012 01:29 PM
  23. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    I use my phone primarily to take pictures of my son, and the photos that I have taken with both phones are comparable...FACT. I have actually had both phones and have the pics to prove that the camera on this phone is on par with my old iPhone 4S. I would post them but I am not gonna post pictures of my son on here.

    Reliable as in: I have had zero apps that have force closed..not one time has it rebooted on its own..haven't noticed any lag..stuff like that...basically the same as people saying "it just works" about an iPhone

    That's funny...between the two of us, who do you think would know about MY phone better? Here's a screenshot I had saved on the phone...
    The only FACT is that besides yours (and a handful of other peoples) opinion...everyone that has compared the 4S's camera to other cell phone cameras has had the same resulting opinion, it is the best camera on the market, period. Does your phone take a nice picture? Sure! But there's really no reason for you to continue arguing it, its an almost unanimous opinion that the 4S's camera is the best camera ever put on a cell phone (and comes with features that make it even better).

    I have a VW GTI as a daily driver to take to work when i dont drive my patrol car, and it has never given me any problems (knock on wood)...that said, using common sense and the general knowledge that many people don't enjoy that same experience, i would never call it a reliable car, even if it has been reliable for me...same difference here.

    And thanks for sharing a picture of your battery life expectancy...like i said before, the GS3 doesn't get 12-18 hours of battery life under moderate to heavy use (as you yourself put it). I can go on the android websites and samsung websites all day long and read the legitimate expectations vs. experiences...they are not in that range under the usage you reflected...maybe under light use, sure, but moderate to heavy use is going to yield you at best 10, at best. But hey, only owners of the phone itself could possibly know anything about them right? lol...

    ...also, Nick Saban eats babies.
    08-13-2012 03:00 PM
  24. roll-tide's Avatar
    1) never once did I say it has a better camera... On par is the term I used

    2) as I said "for me" it has been reliable

    3) the screen shot is from a fairly light day... As shown, after 12 hours of "light usage" I still had 57%...so why is it so hard to believe that with moderate-heavy usage I could get 12-18 hours out of it?? If I can go 24hrs on light usage, it shouldn't be that hard to believe that I HAVE GOTTEN a full 12 hrs or more on a heavier day of use.

    I will add that when I set up an android phone, I do not use widgets or any of the goofy little "features" that most people use. I am using apex launcher with two home screens... One is blank, and one has the icons for the apps I use the most (looks about like my iPhone did in that respect).... As you know, a lot of it has to do with HOW you set the phone up.

    sent using my Galaxy S3
    Last edited by Roll-Tide; 08-13-2012 at 03:16 PM.
    08-13-2012 03:08 PM
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