1. SethK's Avatar
    I purchased G-Map U.S East a couple of months ago for $34.99. Back then, the app had some good user reviews and seemed like a good GPS Navigation app. I liked the user interface, map displays, etc but the original version, even though it looked promising, was lacking in functionality and accuracy. I tried submitted suggestions and bug reports to developer via their website, to which they sent ONE reply stating they would look into them. For a couple of months I never heard back and my subsequent communications with them went unanswered. They did eventually send one update which added functionality (Voice guidance, etc) which was an improvement, but navigation, GPS positioning, etc was still inaccurate. The application itself was also buggy and either froze or crashed.

    I really wanted to like this application and get some use out of it and their most recent update to v2.0 on October 9, 2009 added additional functionality like landscape mode, the ability to play iPod music while navigating, the ability to use your contacts for navigation, etc Unfortunately, the update actually made the application even more unstable and inaccurate. Again, I reported the issues via their website, to which I received ONE response with the most basic of troubleshooting steps (which I had already done, anyone would have as they were that basic). I also tried more advanced troubleshooting including uninstall/reset/reinstall, etc with no luck. I replied advising them that I had already tried what they suggested and more and the problems continue. No response again like in past communication attempts. In my last attempt at communicating with them, I asked for a refund and of course that too has gone unanswered.

    To make matters worse, just two days later, the original G-Map U.S East app, which they had just updated on 10/9 and had numerous bad reviews by this time from others having the same problems with it after the update.to 2.0, has DISAPPEARED from iTunes, along with all the customer comments/ratings. Instead, there is now a G-Map U.S. & Canada, which includes ALL of the US and Canada, not just US East, for the price of $34.99?? Same price I paid for G-Map U.S East which is now broken (buggy, unstable, etc) from their last update, they do not seem to want to provide support for and will seemingly no longer have map and functionality updates or fixes for? G-Map U.S. & Canada is NOT showing as an update for the now missing G-Map U.S East. I am now all G-Map U.S East users are stuck with a buggy app that paid good money for ($34.99 or $24.99 sale price soon after the update) and have only had for a few months and can get no support or updates for? Is this at all ethical? This is VERY shady of XRoad to do, leaving previous purchasers hanging..

    ** Problems with G-Map U.S East since their recent and last update. V2.0**

    1. Unstable. Freezes or crashes randomly or when changing from 3D view to 2D view or vice versa.
    2. Inaccurate voice guidance, continual inexplicable Make a U-Turn for no reason. Even though you are following the route given as shown by the blue line and by the Turn by Turn or Intersection list, it continually tells you Make a u-turn time after time. Even in sample mode (not actually driving). Why?
    3. Maps outdated. Addresses and roads that have been in existence for a year, in some cases more are not on the map. No further updates are available as G-Map U.S East has been removed from iTunes.
    4. No longer keeping the iPhone awake while using G-Map to navigate as it did prior to the v 2.0 upgrade. Cannot navigate if phone keeps blacking out/going to sleep, having to constantly look down and/or wake up the phone can cause an accident.
    5. Cannot navigate from address in Contacts. The address for this contact was not found in the map.. When manually entering the same exact address, it finds it just fine. It is not reading Contacts addresses correctly.
    6. The 10/9/09 2.0 update removed ETA, Time and Distance remaining. It no longer shows while driving.

    I contacted Apple iTunes Store Support and the response was Dan, your request for a refund for "G-Map U.S. East" was carefully considered; however, according to the iTunes Store Terms of Sale, all purchases made on the iTunes Store are final. This policy matches Apple's refund policies and provides protection for copyrighted materials with a link to the Terms of Sale.

    One could say, based on the "All sales are final" in the Apps store that Vendors/Developers can develop all kinds of sub-standard, useless apps, take your money, provide little to no support for it and even REMOVE the app from iTunes so that the bad reviews from dissatisfied users no longer show and they can continue taking advantage of the terms of sale. And there isn't a thing we can do about it?!?. They can get away with taking your money and running?!? As if the last update to "G-Map U.S East" (2.0) breaking the app was not enough, they then ignore pleas for help and then REMOVE it from iTues to hide the negative comments on it and then come up with one that provides ALL of the US and Canada for the same price I paid just months ago for one I can't even properly use? This is unethical to say the least.

    I find it very difficult to believe that Apple does not see the wrong in this. I can understand these terms with music and videos as their only function is to entertain and they are what they are, but an application that is supposed to serve a certain function and does not do so as described and is then pulled so you can't get updates is a totally different thing. iTunes consumers buying Apps really need to catch onto this and if these "Terms of sale" do not change appropriately, I am sure this type of situation will inevitably spark a class action lawsuit in the future. I unfortunately have neither time patience nor the means to do so, but these Terms of Sale make it so any unscrupulous developer can take advantage of Apple iTunes Consumers without them having any recourse.

    I have written Apple iTunes Store support back asking them to further review this situation. At the very least, they should allow legacy G-Map U.S East users to upgrade to G-Map U.S & Canada so there is at least some hope that future updates will address the existing issues and also so that they can receive future map updates.

    I am posting this merely to bring awareness to this seemingly overlooked loophole in the Apple iTunes App stores Terms of Sale/Policy. App purchases should not be treated the same as music or movie purchases simply because they are not. Consumers need to stop overlooking this and start standing up for their rights as consumers. If you purchase something that is not what it was advertised to be or do, or has subsequently been made defective by an update and the seller does not stand behind it, it is our right as consumers to request a refund.
    SK
    10-15-2009 08:52 PM
  2. Gennew's Avatar
    I have the G-Map West app and can sympathize with you. The current digital download movement does have its flaws. There needs to be accountability from developers and if flawed products are released without support, then Apple needs to provide some type of refund or alternative remedy. I do not support piracy, but in cases like this I can see how someone would be pushed to alternative measures when the legitimate ones are shut down by Apple. With that said, Xroad seems to be a distant Korean company with horrible support. There are numerous alternatives now that are better options. G-map was the first real iPhone GPS app, but with competition it is 3rd rate at best.
    10-15-2009 09:37 PM
  3. SethK's Avatar
    This app has become useless since their 2.0 update and they then removed it from iTunes. I've been reading numerous forums where other people have had the same issue. Other posts through the past months stated that XRoad has removed G-Maps U.S East before for "Review and updates" as Sharling reiterated. B.S.. They can update it without removing it form the iTunes store, no other vendor/developer does this.

    The fact is.... They are removing it so they can put it back on when the dust settles, to clear all the negative customer reviews and start fresh with no old negative reviews at all so they can get more sales from those that rely solely on the iTunes Store reviews and don't do research on the net first. NICE!! XRoads should be ashamed. WE'RE ONTO YOU!
    10-16-2009 11:12 PM
  4. SethK's Avatar
    UPDATE..

    Some may argued that XRoads took the application off iTunes so that new customers do not buy an unstable application, but they took it offline around the same time as the new G-Map U.S. & Canada came it, and that one has the same exact problems. If you look at it's reviews in order by most recent, you will see that not only does it have a meager 2 1/2 star rating, but all the comments are from people who are also having the same issues as those of us on G-Map U.S East are having. And again, the new version they did put out is NOT an update for those of us on G-Map U.S East which they broke with the 2.0 update on Oct 9th. So, did they take it off iTunes to wipe bad comments leaving past customers in limbo, or to keep new customers from buying a buggy app? It's obvious. You be the judge. This all shows the company's character and moral standards.

    We are also finding people tied to XRoads pretending to be customers, leaving good ratings on the app in iTunes and stepping into postings like mine, trying to defend the company.. Too funny!

    Oh, and by the way, Apple iTunes Store Support did review this case and they promptly issued a full credit!! Justice is served.. I am thankful that there is still good customer service out there. Thanks again Apple!

    XRoads needs to stop treating their customers as idiots. It's clear from this and current reviews on the bait and switch app that while some may be, there are more of us that are not!
    10-17-2009 10:36 AM
  5. SethK's Avatar
    Well, the G-Map U.S East app is back on iTunes with updates. I just got done installing (had to install via iTunes, then sync to the iPhone) and did some brief testing. It seems some of the problems still exist. I have not been able to test routing on the road as I just installed and do not plan on getting on the road tonight, but I did test some of the options/functionality.

    The main thing I've noticed so far is that I STILL cannot navigate from address in Contacts. The address for this contact was not found in the map.. When manually entering the same exact address, it finds it just fine. It is not reading Contacts addresses correctly. My other GPS Nav app works perfectly from my Contacts.

    I will do further testing in the next few days and will keep you posted
    11-03-2009 08:39 PM
  6. SethK's Avatar
    Bottom line, it still sucks. I tested further on today's drive, and here's what I found. Navigation still inaccurate. Just this morning on a simple 17 mile drive to work, mostly highway, it kept having me exit the highway on several exists just to get back on for no reason. It also had me exit at the correct exit, just to get back on, get off an exit further south of it to come back North and exit at the correct exit again (South on Hwy 400, exit 12, back on Hwy 400 South to exit 11, then NORTH on Hwy 400 to exit 12 again). It had good GPS lock and it was not recalculating route, it was actually part of the route itself.

    Time and distance remaining still only shows when you first set up the route. As soon as you start driving it disappears, never to show up again. The voice navigation is not a pleasant well spoke voice as it used to be. It is now the TTS (Text To Speech) which is great, but it is very robotic. The only one thing they do seem to have fixed is the constant, inexplicable Make a U-Turn prompts.

    I would definitely suggest against purchasing this app if you were considering it. I am currently using CoPilot Live North America which is 100 times better and much more functional in every sense. Its not perfect but compared to G-Maps, it sure is close to perfect. It is option and feature rich, very customizable to what you want it to display in the information bar, and best of all, much much more accurate.

    I have not tried Navigon, but from what Ive read, it too is recommended, though much more expensive.

    There you have it folks.. I have unistalled G-Map U.S East and hope never to see it again..
    11-04-2009 07:10 PM
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