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  1. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    We are somewhere around 90 days away from WWDC 2019 and Apple’s preview of the next iOS version. Each year, I look forward to installing the new iOS beta build probably more so than getting a new iPhone. Yet, it prompted me to ask the thread question - Which ONE is MORE important to “you” - the iPhone itself or iOS? Don’t wuss out and choose both. Pick one!....
    Last edited by Just_Me_D; 03-04-2019 at 11:09 AM.
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    03-04-2019 08:56 AM
  2. Annie_8plus's Avatar
    Gosh, that's a tough question. Initially, I would have thought it would be the iPhone... that's what attracted me. The iPhone is like a gorgeous cover of a book... and as we all know, you should never judge a book by its cover... it's what's inside that matters. So my answer would have to be iOS... because without iOS, what would the iPhone be?
    03-04-2019 09:00 AM
  3. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Gosh, that's a tough question. Initially, I would have thought it would be the iPhone... that's what attracted me. The iPhone is like a gorgeous cover of a book... and as we all know, you should never judge a book by its cover... it's what's inside that matters. So my answer would have to be iOS... because without iOS, what would the iPhone be?
    Outstanding!...and I’m in full agreement with you...
    03-04-2019 09:11 AM
  4. Spencerdl's Avatar
    Gosh, that's a tough question. Initially, I would have thought it would be the iPhone... that's what attracted me. The iPhone is like a gorgeous cover of a book... and as we all know, you should never judge a book by its cover... it's what's inside that matters. So my answer would have to be iOS... because without iOS, what would the iPhone be?
    I TOTALLY agree with this entire post.
    Enough said...LOL
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    03-04-2019 09:28 AM
  5. vimagreg's Avatar
    For me it need to be iOS, since more often than not I get myself seriously temptated by the far more interesting and diverse Android offerings. What still keep me as an iPhone user is the iOS and the privacy it provides me (or, at least, Apple swear that it provides me )
    03-04-2019 09:28 AM
  6. Quis89's Avatar
    The thing with the iPhone is that it's such a symbiotic relationship between software and the hardware. For example, we don't get FaceID without the hardware necessary to power it.

    So I guess if I HAD to pick one. It would be the hardware. The hardware is what powers the software. Without great hardware, we don't get the features we enjoy on a daily. So my choice would have to be the hardware. Great hardware is what gave us FaceID, an amazing camera (in partnership with strong image processing via software) and a gorgeous display.
    03-04-2019 09:29 AM
  7. ivanwi11iams's Avatar
    @Just_Me_D you're doing that thing again, asking brilliant questions!

    For me personally, I would like a brilliant OS. Case in point, I used to use BlackBerry devices, and it was mainly for the OS (and of course BlackBerry Messenger - before it became BBM). But, as media and social media became more prevalent, I wanted to partake. But, BlackBerry's OS made that a little difficult. Queue Apple and the iPhone/iOS.

    Now, I will ask this (rhetorical, since no one here can officially answer), when will Apple allow iOS users to place icons ANYWHERE on the iPhone (& iPad) screen? Why is still still a thing, still a question? Ugh

    So, here we are...
    03-04-2019 09:43 AM
  8. Annie_8plus's Avatar
    This question reminds me of the iconic question: "Which came first, the chicken or the egg"? I completely understand the response posted by @Quis89!
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    03-04-2019 10:05 AM
  9. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    At this point, it's more about the OS. The phones themselves are fine, unless you're looking for a foldable. I'm happy with my 6s Plus as it is. But would like more from the OS, even though I like most of iOS 12. Rumor says the 6s Plus won't get iOS 13. If true, then the model becomes more important for those of us with an older phone below the 7. There's several ways to answer your question. For now, the OS is more important to me. But that may change some with bad news at WWDC. Ask us questions that aren't so complicated to answer.
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    03-04-2019 10:19 AM
  10. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    ...

    So I guess if I HAD to pick one. It would be the hardware. The hardware is what powers the software. Without great hardware, we don't get the features we enjoy on a daily. So my choice would have to be the hardware. Great hardware is what gave us FaceID, an amazing camera (in partnership with strong image processing via software) and a gorgeous display.
    For me, I think it is the OS that powers the hardware....
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    03-04-2019 11:19 AM
  11. ivanwi11iams's Avatar
    I believe without software, the hardware is merely dead weight. Think about it, a fancy powerful graphics card (8GB, 1070 or 2070) it can do nothing without the software
    03-04-2019 11:35 AM
  12. mumfoau's Avatar
    iOS for me, without question. I love how no matter what hardware an iOS user has, I can always get them right where they need to be due to the software being identical across the board.
    03-04-2019 11:47 AM
  13. Quis89's Avatar
    For me, I think it is the OS that powers the hardware....
    And thus is the symbiosis of the iPhone.
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    03-04-2019 11:48 AM
  14. Quis89's Avatar
    I believe without software, the hardware is merely dead weight. Think about it, a fancy powerful graphics card (8GB, 1070 or 2070) it can do nothing without the software
    But think about about how much more the software can do when it's not hindered by poor hardware. You can only do with the software what the hardware allows.
    03-04-2019 11:49 AM
  15. ivanwi11iams's Avatar
    ...touche'.

    But think about about how much more the software can do when it's not hindered by poor hardware. You can only do with the software what the hardware allows.
    03-04-2019 11:52 AM
  16. ivanwi11iams's Avatar
    I certainly agree from a 'providing support' stand point. Often when I am helping Android users, my first question is often, which version of Android. Then I can start to direct them.

    Alas, Apple/iOS are starting to 'hide' some settings. Annoying really...

    iOS for me, without question. I love how no matter what hardware an iOS user has, I can always get them right where they need to be due to the software being identical across the board.
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    03-04-2019 11:54 AM
  17. Ken Magel's Avatar
    IPhones, even those a few years old are more than capable. They are being held back by IOS.
    03-04-2019 02:38 PM
  18. TgeekB's Avatar
    @Just_Me_D you're doing that thing again, asking brilliant questions!

    For me personally, I would like a brilliant OS. Case in point, I used to use BlackBerry devices, and it was mainly for the OS (and of course BlackBerry Messenger - before it became BBM). But, as media and social media became more prevalent, I wanted to partake. But, BlackBerry's OS made that a little difficult. Queue Apple and the iPhone/iOS.

    Now, I will ask this (rhetorical, since no one here can officially answer), when will Apple allow iOS users to place icons ANYWHERE on the iPhone (& iPad) screen? Why is still still a thing, still a question? Ugh

    So, here we are...
    When hel* freezes over.
    Apple runs the show. If you want choice it is the wrong OS to be on.
    03-04-2019 04:18 PM
  19. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    IPhones, even those a few years old are more than capable. They are being held back by IOS.
    iPhones that are “a few years old” can run the latest iOS version quite well.
    03-04-2019 04:35 PM
  20. scruffypig's Avatar
    Gosh, that's a tough question. Initially, I would have thought it would be the iPhone... that's what attracted me. The iPhone is like a gorgeous cover of a book... and as we all know, you should never judge a book by its cover... it's what's inside that matters. So my answer would have to be iOS... because without iOS, what would the iPhone be?
    This^. This is why I stay with Apple.
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    03-04-2019 07:54 PM
  21. Lee_Bo's Avatar
    Well you can't have one without the other, so I vote "both".
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    03-05-2019 12:57 PM
  22. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Well you can't have one without the other, so I vote "both".
    Wuss....
    03-05-2019 02:56 PM
  23. Not Quite Right's Avatar
    So my answer would have to be iOS... because without iOS, what would the iPhone be?
    ... A badass android phone!!!
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    03-06-2019 09:00 AM
  24. calebt's Avatar
    Both, what a cop out answer.
    03-06-2019 09:43 AM
  25. cornettbr's Avatar
    For me to upgrade this year, they'd have to add apple pen support or do some drastic redesign. I only upgraded from the X to the XS max for the bigger screen, otherwise I've been perfectly happy with the phone. Granted I have taken a small two week break playing with a Galaxy S10+. It's pretty good but I miss my iPhone already.
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    04-10-2019 01:55 PM
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