1. Tartarus's Avatar
    Nah. Some of us don’t like being told that something is “completely pointless,” since we all have different definitions of what is pointless.
    Well said.

    To me, any new iteration of my current device is worth upgrading to.
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    09-24-2017 07:52 AM
  2. TgeekB's Avatar
    That’s my point. Not that people can do what they want and go out and buy it. DUH!!!! we all know that. The article was for people wondering if it’s worth buying because they don’t know the differences. Is the upgrade worth your money or can you save it for the next iteration. Not oh I have money I’m free to do what I want screw him lol. Everyone took it so personally.
    I got it.
    People did take it personal and that wasn’t the point.
    09-24-2017 07:57 AM
  3. Tartarus's Avatar
    I got it.
    People did take it personal and that wasn’t the point.
    Aside from wireless charging there is no obvious reason if you can spend the money for the better.
    09-24-2017 08:23 AM
  4. TgeekB's Avatar
    Aside from wireless charging there is no obvious reason if you can spend the money for the better.
    I think it’s a personal choice. For instance, if they came out with a new color and that was the only reason you wanted it and can afford it, is it worth it? It is to that person. Yet a new color alone is not, for most people, worth the upgrade.
    We all make personal decisions based on likes, needs, or aesthetics. Also Apple brings, something perceived but not talked about all the time, the personal connection that draws people into supporting what they make. It’s extremely interesting.
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    09-24-2017 08:29 AM
  5. Rodney Willis's Avatar
    I'm debating also if I should upgrade my 7 plus128 g for a 8 plus 256 g.
    09-24-2017 08:39 AM
  6. Tartarus's Avatar
    I'm debating also if I should upgrade my 7 plus128 g for a 8 plus 256 g.
    You will get a faster phone, with better camera and larger storage capacity. That’s already three reasons for you to upgrade.

    Edit: I forgot to mention wireless charging.
    09-24-2017 08:48 AM
  7. mumfoau's Avatar
    I definitely don’t think it’s pointless though many of the upgrades are going to be missed by the average consumer. It’s an upgrade in every way internally. If the X wasn’t on the horizon, I’d likely be posting this from my 8 Plus right now.
    09-24-2017 08:55 AM
  8. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    .... Everyone took it so personally.
    No. Some of us merely disagreed with the author determining for the rest of us that the upgrade was “pointless” when he or she cannot know what our wants and needs are or what is important to us.
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    09-24-2017 08:58 AM
  9. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    I'm debating also if I should upgrade my 7 plus128 g for a 8 plus 256 g.
    1. Do you have a ‘need’ to upgrade or do you merely have a ‘desire’ to upgrade?

    2. Is there anything mechanically wrong with your current iPhone?

    3. If there were no new iPhone models available, would your current iPhone continue to meet your smartphone needs?

    4. Are the incremental improvements of the newer iPhone model ‘worth’ pursuing to ‘you’?
    09-24-2017 09:06 AM
  10. Rob Phillips's Avatar
    No. Some of us merely disagreed with the author determining for the rest of us that the upgrade was “pointless” when he or she cannot know what our wants and needs are or what is important to us.
    This.

    Don’t even get me started with the linked article. It’s poorly written and short-sighted, even for Mashable. “When is the last time your iPhone 7 actually lagged or couldn't complete a task because the processor was too slow?” That’s like asking why I should upgrade my Nintendo 64 even though it’s not lagging while I’m playing Mario Kart. Furthermore, AR apps and portrait mode turn my 7 Plus into a miniature space heater because it’s pinging the processor so hard. I’m not saying the iPhone 8 is a worthy upgrade for everyone. I’m just saying that it shouldn’t automatically be written off as a worthy upgrade for the right users.
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    09-24-2017 09:17 AM
  11. TgeekB's Avatar
    This.

    Don’t even get me started with the linked article. It’s poorly written and short-sighted, even for Mashable. “When is the last time your iPhone 7 actually lagged or couldn't complete a task because the processor was too slow?” That’s like asking why I should upgrade my Nintendo 64 even though it’s not lagging while I’m playing Mario Kart. Furthermore, AR apps and portrait mode turn my 7 Plus into a miniature space heater because it’s pinging the processor so hard. I’m not saying the iPhone 8 is a worthy upgrade for everyone. I’m just saying that it shouldn’t automatically be written off as a worthy upgrade for the right users.
    I like how you put it at the end.
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    09-24-2017 09:32 AM
  12. Hendri Hendri's Avatar
    I read an article somewhere , it stated that, due to apple start to sell wireless charging phone, some hotel, qi component factories, retailer, all starting to invest the wireless charging pad. That show apple’s influence in the market. Wonder how long can apple maintain their global market position. Such a burden LOL
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    09-24-2017 09:52 AM
  13. njshoregurlz's Avatar
    Agree
    For now I'm keeping love the new iOS lol
    09-24-2017 10:01 AM
  14. phonejunky's Avatar
    Nah. Some of us don’t like being told that something is “completely pointless,” since we all have different definitions of what is pointless.

    See, to me, what phone Trump is using is completely pointless. But you posted a thread about it.

    See? Different definitions of completely pointless.
    I was going to respond to that in the most disrespectful fashion. But I’ve built a reputation for getting infractions. So I’ll let that little jab go lol. You want to feel secure in your purchase. I get it.
    09-24-2017 12:01 PM
  15. phonejunky's Avatar
    No. Some of us merely disagreed with the author determining for the rest of us that the upgrade was “pointless” when he or she cannot know what our wants and needs are or what is important to us.
    A similar comment was responded to already. The article was for people on the fence about making a decision. Not for people who already knew why they wanted the newer device.
    09-24-2017 12:13 PM
  16. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    A similar comment was responded to already. The article was for people on the fence about making a decision. Not for people who already knew why they wanted the newer device.
    Let’s just say that he could have made it crystal clear to whom the article was intended. It doesn’t help when he states, “I'm not going to pretend I can tell you exactly which phone is right for you, but I'll tell you this: If you already have an iPhone 7, you absolutely should not buy an iPhone 8.” That statement is definitive and across the board, in my opinion, and it is telling people that the iPhone 8 is NOT right for them if they own already own an iPhone 7, despite not knowing what is right for everybody.
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    09-24-2017 12:26 PM
  17. qbnkelt's Avatar
    I was going to respond to that in the most disrespectful fashion. But I’ve built a reputation for getting infractions. So I’ll let that little jab go lol. You want to feel secure in your purchase. I get it.
    Interesting.
    You make a statement that upgrading to an 8 is simply for phone nerds who want to lay their phone down at Starbucks, or that people who upgrade to the 8 are part of a “needy generation” but you find it objectionable when someone reminds you of your interest in what Trump uses as something that is of interest.
    Well.....I never sit at Starbucks, and in the 5 minutes that I spend ordering a coffee or drive through, I don’t put my phone down. So there must be other reasons. Which you find irrelevant. Cool. Go ahead and place a value judgement on others’ adult decisions. But don’t threaten disrespectful responses when someone places a value judgement on your interests. If you dish out, you need to be able to take it.

    Oh and I don’t need to feel secure in my purchase. I knew what I wanted and I got it. I answer to no one in my house for my purchases, and they’re the ones who matter.
    Last edited by qbnkelt; 09-24-2017 at 01:05 PM.
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    09-24-2017 12:27 PM
  18. phonejunky's Avatar
    Interesting.
    You make a statement that upgrading to an 8 is simply for phone nerds who want to lay their phone down at Starbucks, or that people who upgrade to the 8 are part of a “needy generation” but you find it objectionable when someone reminds you of your interest in what Trump uses as something that is of interest.
    Well.....I never sit at Starbucks, and in the 5 minutes that I spend ordering a coffee or drive through, I don’t put my phone down. So there must be other reasons. Which you find irrelevant. Cool. Go ahead and place a value judgement on others’ adult decisions. But don’t threaten disrespectful responses when someone places a value judgement on your interests. If you dish out, you need to be able to take it.

    Oh and I don’t need to feel secure in my purchase. I knew what I wanted and I got it. I answer to no one in my house for my purchases, and they’re the ones who matter.
    I didn’t threaten a disrespectful response. Let’s not add things I never did. A threat is completely different then what I said.

    I simply stated the truth. I didn’t mean to hurt your feelings. For that I’m sorry. Let’s get past this. We’re all iPhone enthusiasts here.
    09-24-2017 01:50 PM
  19. TgeekB's Avatar
    OMG people, it was an opinion article. If you don’t like it, don’t read it. Not worth starting a war over. It’s Sunday, relax.
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    09-24-2017 02:08 PM
  20. Tartarus's Avatar
    The reactions in this group are actually quite worth reading.
    If you have spent top dollar on a device you don’t want people to tell you that you have been stupid.
    09-24-2017 02:18 PM
  21. mogelijk's Avatar
    Aside from wireless charging there is no obvious reason if you can spend the money for the better.
    And I can't agree with this.

    I definitely don’t think it’s pointless though many of the upgrades are going to be missed by the average consumer. It’s an upgrade in every way internally. If the X wasn’t on the horizon, I’d likely be posting this from my 8 Plus right now.
    I think this is a lot of the problem, people do a quick scan of the spec sheet and, beyond the A11 processor -- which says nothing about the actual performance -- the only thing that really sticks out on a spec sheet is the wireless charging. What it misses are things like LTE-Advanced support, how much faster the phone actually is, the huge improvements in photo quality (despite using the same basic phone hardware), and the TrueTone display (which is on some spec sheets but that people gloss over). And even with this list, I'm sure there are a couple of things I've forgotten.

    I will agree, for most people none of it is a "must have," but is enough there that some people will want or feel the need to upgrade. I really like things like the TrueTone display; which I've loved since seeing it in action on an iPad Pro. I like the better camera, though I don't take a lot of pictures (so it is hard to justify upgrading based on the camera). The wireless charging isn't something I care greatly about; I've had it on Android phones and like the convenience but it isn't a feature that would convince me to buy one phone over another that doesn't have it.

    Personally, if I hadn't been handing down my phone for another family member to use, I likely would not have bought an 8 Plus. But it is a great phone and has several improvements over the 7 Plus.
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    09-24-2017 02:19 PM
  22. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    For clarity’s sake, saying, “I believe it is pointless to upgrade to the iPhone 8 if you have already have an iPhone 7” is perfectly fine. Prefacing it with “I believe” lets us know that you are expressing your personal opinion. However, using the same statement minus the preface is moving beyond personal opinion and makes the author seem like the self appointed authority over this matter. Know what I mean?
    09-24-2017 02:34 PM
  23. qbnkelt's Avatar
    I didn’t threaten a disrespectful response. Let’s not add things I never did. A threat is completely different then what I said.

    I simply stated the truth. I didn’t mean to hurt your feelings. For that I’m sorry. Let’s get past this. We’re all iPhone enthusiasts here.
    🤣🤣🤣🤣My feelings aren’t hurt. I am calling out flawed logic and erroneous assumptions. Women *can* do that devoid of any feelings. Much like many of us can squash a spider without turning into quivering mush.

    But sure let’s get part this. Although I will dispute the statement that we’re all iPhone enthusiasts here. We all know that’s far from correct.
    09-24-2017 02:40 PM
  24. TgeekB's Avatar
    For clarity’s sake, saying, “I believe it is pointless to upgrade to the iPhone 8 if you have already have an iPhone 7” is perfectly fine. Prefacing it with “I believe” lets us know that you are expressing your personal opinion. However, using the same statement minus the preface is moving beyond personal opinion and makes the author seem like the self appointed authority over this matter. Know what I mean?
    Fair enough!
    The only thing is you can find every conceivable opinion on the internet. If you get upset at them all, you’ll be spending a lot on therapy.
    Just_Me_D likes this.
    09-24-2017 03:15 PM
  25. TgeekB's Avatar
    🤣🤣🤣🤣My feelings aren’t hurt. I am calling out flawed logic and erroneous assumptions. Women *can* do that devoid of any feelings. Much like many of us can squash a spider without turning into quivering mush.

    But sure let’s get part this. Although I will dispute the statement that we’re all iPhone enthusiasts here. We all know that’s far from correct.
    Yes we are. We all have our iPhone enthusiast fan club cards!
    phonejunky likes this.
    09-24-2017 03:16 PM
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