1. ItnStln511's Avatar
    Does anyone know what models of the iPhone 8 Plus use which modem? My reason for asking is that I get better reception with my Qualcomm powered 7 Plus than with my Intel powered 7 despite both being on at&t.
    09-21-2017 07:03 PM
  2. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    I thought I read a while back they'd all be Qualcomm this time. Not sure though.
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    09-21-2017 07:31 PM
  3. ItnStln511's Avatar
    I thought I read a while back they'd all be Qualcomm this time. Not sure though.
    That's what I'm hoping
    09-21-2017 07:35 PM
  4. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    That's what I'm hoping
    I could be wrong, but seems I read that a month or two back.
    09-22-2017 07:23 AM
  5. mogelijk's Avatar
    I'm not sure what modems are being used, but it does appear to be like the 7 Plus where there is a GSM-only version and an all-carrier version of the 8 Plus.
    09-22-2017 07:34 AM
  6. ItnStln511's Avatar
    I could be wrong, but seems I read that a month or two back.
    Hopefully you're right!
    09-22-2017 08:48 AM
  7. ItnStln511's Avatar
    I'm not sure what modems are being used, but it does appear to be like the 7 Plus where there is a GSM-only version and an all-carrier version of the 8 Plus.
    Thats not good news because the GSM only 7/7 Plus had the weaker Intel modem whereas the global and CDMA 7/7 Plus had the superior Qualcomm.
    09-22-2017 08:50 AM
  8. mogelijk's Avatar
    Thats not good news because the GSM only 7/7 Plus had the weaker Intel modem whereas the global and CDMA 7/7 Plus had the superior Qualcomm.
    It appears we may need to wait a while to know for sure. This article suggests that they again may well be using a mix of Qualcomm and Intel modems; though it could also be using only Intel modems (the new Intel chips support CDMA), with Apple's well publicized fight with Qualcomm.

    The good side, the Intel modems are just as fast as the Qualcomm modem that Apple may be using, and Apple is definitely using faster modems than in the 7/7+. It likely doesn't matter if you have an Intel or Qualcomm modem. On the bad, it appears they likely aren't using Qualcomm's fastest modem (that supports Gigabit speeds).
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    09-22-2017 09:00 AM
  9. ItnStln511's Avatar
    It appears we may need to wait a while to know for sure. This article suggests that they again may well be using a mix of Qualcomm and Intel modems; though it could also be using only Intel modems (the new Intel chips support CDMA), with Apple's well publicized fight with Qualcomm.

    The good side, the Intel modems are just as fast as the Qualcomm modem that Apple may be using, and Apple is definitely using faster modems than in the 7/7+. It likely doesn't matter if you have an Intel or Qualcomm modem. On the bad, it appears they likely aren't using Qualcomm's fastest modem (that supports Gigabit speeds).
    If the Intel modems are improved from what they used in the 7/7 Plus then it might not be as bad. I have a Qualcomm in my 7 Plus and it gets better reception and speeds than my company issued 7 with an Intel modem. Hopefully someone figures it out.
    09-22-2017 09:33 AM
  10. mogelijk's Avatar
    From what I'm seeing, though I haven't had it verified, once again the GSM phones are using an Intel model and the CDMA are using a Qualcomm. The good news, the Qualcomm modem it is claimed is being used is capable of Gigabit speeds. The bad news, the Intel isn't as good (though they do support LTE-Advanced, with 512 Mbit speeds) and it is believed Apple has again limited the Qualcomm modem so that it preforms like the Intel.
    09-23-2017 03:25 PM
  11. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    Both run very well. I don't see where it's anything to be concerned about, either way. My 6s Plus has the "bad" chip, but has done great. It's not something you're going to notice.
    09-23-2017 07:14 PM
  12. FaisDogg's Avatar
    Thats not good news because the GSM only 7/7 Plus had the weaker Intel modem whereas the global and CDMA 7/7 Plus had the superior Qualcomm.
    GSM only versions are only sold at ATT and T-Mobile stores, everything sold directly by Apple and Sprint/Verizon stores is all carrier version.
    09-24-2017 01:12 AM
  13. M_A's Avatar
    GSM only versions are only sold at ATT and T-Mobile stores, everything sold directly by Apple and Sprint/Verizon stores is all carrier version.
    ... and in Europe?
    09-24-2017 03:34 AM
  14. maskedcarrot's Avatar
    GSM only versions are only sold at ATT and T-Mobile stores, everything sold directly by Apple and Sprint/Verizon stores is all carrier version.
    No that's not true.

    Even if you buy the AT&T or T-Mobile version at an Apple store they will still have the Intel modem.

    The only way to get a Qualcomm version outside of Verizon or Sprint would to buy the Sim Free version.

    My 7+ and 8+ I both bought directly from Apple for my AT&T Next plan, and both have the Intel modem.
    09-24-2017 10:01 AM
  15. ItnStln511's Avatar
    No that's not true.

    Even if you buy the AT&T or T-Mobile version at an Apple store they will still have the Intel modem.

    The only way to get a Qualcomm version outside of Verizon or Sprint would to buy the Sim Free version.

    My 7+ and 8+ I both bought directly from Apple for my AT&T Next plan, and both have the Intel modem.
    This!
    How do you see what modem it has?
    09-24-2017 12:12 PM
  16. ItnStln511's Avatar
    From what I'm seeing, though I haven't had it verified, once again the GSM phones are using an Intel model and the CDMA are using a Qualcomm. The good news, the Qualcomm modem it is claimed is being used is capable of Gigabit speeds. The bad news, the Intel isn't as good (though they do support LTE-Advanced, with 512 Mbit speeds) and it is believed Apple has again limited the Qualcomm modem so that it preforms like the Intel.
    Has it beem confirmed which modems are in which phones yet?
    09-24-2017 12:16 PM
  17. mogelijk's Avatar
    This!
    How do you see what modem it has?
    Typically the information has come from teardowns, and all units of a particular model of the iPhone (such as A1864) will (or should) use the same components.

    Has it beem confirmed which modems are in which phones yet?
    IFIXIT has done a teardown of the Apple 8 Plus A1864 (Verizon/Sprint model) and it has the Qualcomm X16 modem (they also did the similar iPhone 8 model) -- though apparently is missing the antennas that would allow the Gigabit speeds (likely so it will match the GSM model, A1897). Techinsights did a teardown of the model A1897 and found it had the Intel XMM 7480 modem.

    So, yes, it is now confirmed.
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    09-24-2017 12:36 PM
  18. ItnStln511's Avatar
    Typically the information has come from teardowns, and all units of a particular model of the iPhone (such as A1864) will (or should) use the same components.



    IFIXIT has done a teardown of the Apple 8 Plus A1864 (Verizon/Sprint model) and it has the Qualcomm X16 modem (they also did the similar iPhone 8 model) -- though apparently is missing the antennas that would allow the Gigabit speeds (likely so it will match the GSM model, A1897). Techinsights did a teardown of the model A1897 and found it had the Intel XMM 7480 modem.

    So, yes, it is now confirmed.
    Thanks, I didn't see those when I searched Google but I probably didn't word my search correctly.
    09-24-2017 01:33 PM
  19. M_A's Avatar
    Are Intel modems not as power efficient as Qualcomm modems?
    09-24-2017 02:01 PM
  20. ItnStln511's Avatar
    Are Intel modems not as power efficient as Qualcomm modems?
    That I'm not sure of. IME, the Qualcomm modem in my 7 Plus gets better reception than my company issued 7 with the Intel modem. I go to fringe areas sometime and my 7 Plus will have a few bars and my company issued 7 says no service. Both devices are on at&t.
    09-24-2017 02:07 PM
  21. tai4de2's Avatar
    GSM only versions are only sold at ATT and T-Mobile stores, everything sold directly by Apple and Sprint/Verizon stores is all carrier version.
    That isn't correct. This morning at an Apple store I held in my hands simultaneously a T-Mobile and a Sprint iPhone 8. The verbiage on the back of the box for the Sprint one specifically mentions "CDMA" in the list of the supported technology. That term is missing from the T-Mobile one.
    09-26-2017 05:41 PM
  22. Sherry_B's Avatar
    everything sold directly by Apple and Sprint/Verizon stores is all carrier version.
    That's not true. All of my phones have been unlocked and purchased from Apple stores in my area.
    09-27-2017 07:36 AM
  23. ItnStln511's Avatar
    That's not true. All of my phones have been unlocked and purchased from Apple stores in my area.
    You can get the unlocked and carrier locked models from apple
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    09-27-2017 08:36 AM
  24. Sherry_B's Avatar
    You can get the unlocked and carrier locked models from apple

    Carrier locked models weren't in question.
    09-28-2017 10:14 AM
  25. ItnStln511's Avatar
    Carrier locked models weren't in question.
    My apologies I must have misread the post
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    09-28-2017 12:11 PM
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