1. Craig's Avatar
    I agree with you.
    So use a wired headset. :-)
    09-10-2016 08:13 PM
  2. ItnStln511's Avatar
    So use a wired headset. :-)
    In my case I'm in my car a lot for work and have conference calls. The wired headphones have the best audio quality but I lose the ability to charge my phone while on calls.
    Chrisy likes this.
    09-10-2016 08:22 PM
  3. RECON1's Avatar
    Well... If more people saw me trying to negotiate the head tripping entanglements of my wired headset everytime I need to use it, they'd probably think the new design was created for me, lol. I'll definitely give it a shot. Just imagine me fighting a giant pile of spaghetti on my head. That's what unraveling my headset does, lol.
    Mmmm spaghetti
    09-10-2016 08:36 PM
  4. RECON1's Avatar
    Nope, I hate it. But there's adapters so it's all good.
    09-10-2016 08:40 PM
  5. BenitoC's Avatar
    I'm not bothered at all. I can use the dongle they include with the phone or the Lightning EarPods or get a Bluetooth headphone eventually.
    09-10-2016 08:48 PM
  6. ame's Avatar
    Thanks. Since I DO use the 3.5 port to listen to music in my car on trips AND charge, I will need to get this adaptor. It's a bit of a hassle. Unfortunetly my car doesn't have BT. It's a lowly Subaru Outback.
    How old is your Outback? Mine has BT...
    09-10-2016 08:54 PM
  7. Chrisy's Avatar
    How old is your Outback? Mine has BT...
    2008.
    ChamNG likes this.
    09-10-2016 11:23 PM
  8. ame's Avatar
    2008.
    Wow. My civic and rogue (civic was 06 rogue 08) both had it. I have a 15 outback. We mostly like it. I kind of want to kill the "infotainment center" though
    ChamNG likes this.
    09-10-2016 11:44 PM
  9. tigerinexile's Avatar
    For personal headphones I'd already moved to Bluetooth buds, except in the gym.

    For my car, I have an Aux port only, which makes it a touch annoying. But if the Belkin Lightning splitter works, then it should all work anyway.

    I may not upgrade to the 7. I'd switched to a Galaxy S7 dual sim model from Hong Kong that's water resistant. I said I wouldn't switch back until those two features -- water resistance and dual sim capacity -- came to iPhones. But this one is tempting. The matte black looks very nice, and I miss my iPhone.
    09-11-2016 12:52 AM
  10. robertk328's Avatar
    For my car, I have an Aux port only, which makes it a touch annoying. But if the Belkin Lightning splitter works, then it should all work anyway.
    You can get a Bluetooth receiver that plugs into your AUX
    09-11-2016 06:52 AM
  11. Craig's Avatar
    You can get a Bluetooth receiver that plugs into your AUX
    My Nissan came w/o BT, or a USB port in the stereo. Car audio store = $250 later, new stereo, cd player (which I seldom use), USB port for ...whatever and BT. For me worth the $250. But I keep a small thumb drive plugged in with 600 songs and I am good and the BT works great for my navigation. However not great for voice conversations. That's what $250 gets you.. but if I could afford more, I would not be driving a 2012 Nissan.
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    09-11-2016 07:40 AM
  12. robertk328's Avatar
    My Nissan came w/o BT, or a USB port in the stereo. Car audio store = $250 later, new stereo, cd player (which I seldom use), USB port for ...whatever and BT. For me worth the $250. But I keep a small thumb drive plugged in with 600 songs and I am good and the BT works great for my navigation. However not great for voice conversations. That's what $250 gets you.. but if I could afford more, I would not be driving a 2012 Nissan.
    That's one way to do it too.
    09-11-2016 07:42 AM
  13. ItnStln511's Avatar
    Wow. My civic and rogue (civic was 06 rogue 08) both had it. I have a 15 outback. We mostly like it. I kind of want to kill the "infotainment center" though
    Same here...it's garbage!
    09-11-2016 07:51 AM
  14. tigerinexile's Avatar
    You can get a Bluetooth receiver that plugs into your AUX
    Yeah, but the car does Bluetooth for phone calls. So it'd get messy.
    09-11-2016 08:06 AM
  15. robertk328's Avatar
    Yeah, but the car does Bluetooth for phone calls. So it'd get messy.
    Ahh ok. I don't use Bluetooth for audio as I don't like how it sounds in my car. I just use lightning, thankfully.
    09-11-2016 08:08 AM
  16. tigerinexile's Avatar
    Ahh ok. I don't use Bluetooth for audio as I don't like how it sounds in my car. I just use lightning, thankfully.
    Apple's move makes sense, although people are cranky.

    I'm still on fence about whether to get an iPhone 7. Def will re-enter iOS side by 7s tho.
    09-11-2016 08:13 AM
  17. Scatabrain's Avatar
    There is an audio jack - through the included adapter. I'm perfectly fine with it.
    09-11-2016 09:48 AM
  18. victormb's Avatar
    I agree with #10
    09-11-2016 09:52 AM
  19. afourney's Avatar
    No.

    From the Bose website, Bluetooth headphones have some limitations:

    http://forums.imore.com/e?link=http%...token=HiuV7Puk

    "Can these headphones be used for gaming?

    no. most gaming consoles do not use the same bluetooth protocols as soundlink headphones. a2dp is necessary for audio with the headphones, so they would only work for communications, not game audio. in general, the audio/video delay will be excessive and most noticeable in games where action and audio are supposed to be synchronized. players of casual games with sound effects may not have an issue."

    "Do these headphones work with my TV? Would they work with a Bluetooth transmitter?

    no. many tvs do not have wireless bluetooth functionality. although a transmitter will technically work, the experience does not meet bose expectations. there will be a distracting delay between the audio and video that detracts from the experience."


    Honest questionid Apple fix this?
    09-11-2016 12:24 PM
  20. Craig's Avatar
    No.

    From the Bose website, Bluetooth headphones have some limitations:

    http://forums.imore.com/iphone-7/e?l...token=LutvibCF

    "Can these headphones be used for gaming?

    no. most gaming consoles do not use the same bluetooth protocols as soundlink headphones. a2dp is necessary for audio with the headphones, so they would only work for communications, not game audio. in general, the audio/video delay will be excessive and most noticeable in games where action and audio are supposed to be synchronized. players of casual games with sound effects may not have an issue."

    "Do these headphones work with my TV? Would they work with a Bluetooth transmitter?

    no. many tvs do not have wireless bluetooth functionality. although a transmitter will technically work, the experience does not meet bose expectations. there will be a distracting delay between the audio and video that detracts from the experience."


    Honest questionid Apple fix this?
    So don't get these headphones, get something else that works better. There is nothing for Apple to fix.
    09-11-2016 01:26 PM
  21. bamf-hacker's Avatar
    Totaly ok with it. I have been a BT user for a long time. It is so seldom that I plug anything into my headphone jack that I won't miss it at all.
    09-11-2016 01:27 PM
  22. garfieldthecat's Avatar
    i know it may be frustrating but to go to a crappy OS just because that phone has an audio jack seems a bit too much.
    Let's try to avoid needless insults, shall we? Just because you like iOS doesn't mean that all alternatives are 'crappy'
    Ariza16 likes this.
    09-11-2016 02:25 PM
  23. garfieldthecat's Avatar
    Right. And mini USB can be proprietary also, as in my Nokia Windows Phone or my Blackberry. That is why when I am at the big box store, there isn't just one mini USB car charger for any phone, but a whole isle of mini USB cables for different phone manufacturers.
    ?????????? miniUSB is miniUSB; there is no such thing as a Blackberry-only miniUSB
    09-11-2016 02:26 PM
  24. garfieldthecat's Avatar
    I hear ya, though the USB C is USB 3 a
    No. USB C is the shape of the connector; you can have a USB C which supports USB 3 and a USB C which does not.
    09-11-2016 02:27 PM
  25. garfieldthecat's Avatar
    So don't get these headphones, get something else that works better. There is nothing for Apple to fix.
    Something else such as what? The problem is not so much with Bose, but with Bluetooth as a standard, which cannot match the performance of wired headsets; for what my use of the phone is, I don't care, but audiophiles or gamers may tell the difference between bluetooth and wires.
    Chrisy likes this.
    09-11-2016 02:30 PM
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