1. ItnStln's Avatar
    In my department it's all iPhones. No androids allowed.
    Just out of curiosity what department is that?
    08-25-2017 05:33 PM
  2. TripleOne's Avatar
    I love the Note but I'm not leaving Apple
    Me too!
    08-25-2017 05:49 PM
  3. Jude526's Avatar
    This is the first time I didn't even watch the keynote for the Note. I've had every Note since the Note 2. No interest this time around. I'm very happy with my 7 Plus. I just don't see any benefit to going back to the Note at this point. I've added AirPods, Apple Watch and just recently, a MacBook Pro. They all work so well together. I see no reason to mess with it.
    When I got my iPhone I also got the 12.9 iPad Pro and a month later MacPro. Also Apple Watch
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    08-25-2017 07:01 PM
  4. RHChan84's Avatar
    Both are secure if you just download apps from the App Store.

    Android is slightly less safe because it's so easy to install 3rd party apps without the App Store. But just don't enable it.

    Installing 3rd party apps is the biggest issue with both OS.
    08-25-2017 08:11 PM
  5. chezm's Avatar
    I would say android is pretty secure overall I don't have any concerns with it from what prospective...my issue with it is more related to its optimization with specific hardware
    08-25-2017 09:28 PM
  6. Jude526's Avatar
    My company prefers Apple. All upper management uses iPhone for their business phones. On store level we have the iPad.. wish they would upgrade it. Lol
    I had always ALWAYS been Android and Samsung
    All note devices. But with the debacle of the N7 and how I was dissed on getting 64 gig Note 5 and being stuck on 32gig I decided to jump over. Samsung smart watch worked on it. That cinched it for me. But I ended up getting the Apple Watch
    I absolutely love my experience
    Not looking back. My bestie teased me saying I would cave in for the Note 8
    Nope nada zilch. Staying on Apple.
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    08-25-2017 10:07 PM
  7. Jude526's Avatar
    I spend a lot every month on my Verizon. Glad for corporate discount
    08-25-2017 10:08 PM
  8. Jude526's Avatar
    Any Nexus or Pixel device for starters.
    I get more updates on iPhone than what I saw previously on Android and Samsung. Also
    I don't have to factory reset after! No battery drain . My one brother who is on Apple said "I told u SO". He prefers as well. And his company only used as well. He is a VP for a community bank as well as in compliance. They have no other options. It's all Apple. He talked me into switching

    Now if only our younger sibling would. Lol
    08-25-2017 10:13 PM
  9. ItnStln's Avatar
    I get more updates on iPhone than what I saw previously on Android and Samsung. Also
    I don't have to factory reset after! No battery drain . My one brother who is on Apple said "I told u SO". He prefers as well. And his company only used as well. He is a VP for a community bank as well as in compliance. They have no other options. It's all Apple. He talked me into switching

    Now if only our younger sibling would. Lol
    Funny I’ve never had to factory reset my Pixel XL, ever. I’ve had to reset my iPhone 7 Plus at least three times after updates. Battery drain is an issue on my 7 Plus, but I’ve never had any battery issues on my Pixel XL. Keep on drinking that Kool-Aid though!
    Last edited by ItnStln511; 08-29-2017 at 11:33 AM.
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    08-25-2017 10:16 PM
  10. Jude526's Avatar
    Funny I’ve never had to factory reset my Pixel XL, ever. I’ve had to reset my iPhone 7 Plus at least three times after updates. Battery drain is an issue on my 7 Plus, but I’ve never had any battery issues on my Pixel XL. Keep on drinking tthat Kool-Aid though!
    Weird. Never a problem!
    08-25-2017 10:17 PM
  11. ItnStln's Avatar
    My company prefers Apple. All upper management uses iPhone for their business phones.
    My company issues iPhones to field management and above strictly for appearances sake. This has been stated by many upper management, including the president of the company himself. My issues iPhone sits in my car so that I don’t use my data streaming music on the road.
    08-25-2017 10:19 PM
  12. ItnStln's Avatar
    I would say android is pretty secure overall I don't have any concerns with it from what prospective...my issue with it is more related to its optimization with specific hardware
    I’ve had no security concerns with any Android device I’ve used.
    08-25-2017 10:20 PM
  13. Jude526's Avatar
    Not for appearance sakes with my company.
    08-25-2017 10:22 PM
  14. chezm's Avatar
    I’ve had no security concerns with any Android device I’ve used.
    Back in the S3, even up to S5 things were pretty insecure for android. Only until they invested full security support for apps is when I noticed a positive change for the platform. Before then you had to be very careful what apps you downloaded.

    Also I had to factory reset after any major upgrade with android, but never used a pixel. It had to be done on my nexus 5, 6P, lg G4 and Samsung S6. Never once have I had to do it with an iPhone yet.
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    08-25-2017 10:43 PM
  15. grover5's Avatar
    Back in the S3, even up to S5 things were pretty insecure for android. Only until they invested full security support for apps is when I noticed a positive change for the platform. Before then you had to be very careful what apps you downloaded.

    Also I had to factory reset after any major upgrade with android, but never used a pixel. It had to be done on my nexus 5, 6P, lg G4 and Samsung S6. Never once have I had to do it with an iPhone yet.
    My experience as well. Being sick and tired of factory resets on my androids helped push me to try the 7+.
    Jude526 likes this.
    08-25-2017 10:59 PM
  16. MooMooPrincess's Avatar
    Not agreeing or disagreeing. But could you provide specific examples regarding "more security scares" on iOS than Android? Kind of a blanket statement to make. I wouldn't make it in favor of either OS.
    Android tends to have more low kernel exploits and apple tends to have a lot more of high kernel exploits(something like that).androids fragmentation just makes that worse. Reason why I said apple has more scares is because  products are just more valuable. Apple pays upwards of half a mil for a exploit so people will try harder to find exploits on apple. Back some months ago apple had over 900 exploits in its OS and google had over 6/700.

    Some instances within the past year: siri bypass, password bypass, activation/icloud lock bypass, public WiFi hack, apps with malicious code(some which are still in app store). With Google it's mostly just malicious apps and the public WiFi hack as well but that got patched months ago.
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    08-25-2017 11:02 PM
  17. Jude526's Avatar
    I actually like as this had been mentioned that I did not expect this post to get such impactful replies and opinions. Greatly enjoy this community. You are all the best. My younger brother is set in his ways and I am too for the most part. But my bad experience just made me make the switch. My brother's IT guy made the switch ! And he is really pushing my brother to make it as well. But he is stubborn and I hope he holds off on his upgrade so he can play with both and then make his decision. I have told him I am really pleased and I was skeptical. I do miss being able to customize on some things but am getting used to it. It is the music part and will admit, Android is easier on that LOL. I will definitely inform what he chooses to do. He does sometimes listen to me. I started out in Blackberry with the Tour and he followed, then moved to Samsung and the all the notes...he followed. LOL. Maybe he will to apple
    I sold wireless a few yrs back and he did listen to me back in the day.
    Thanks everyone
    08-26-2017 12:51 AM
  18. TgeekB's Avatar
    I don't think there's much of a doubt, because of it's open nature, that Android is more vulnerable to attacks. That being said, both are pretty secure these days and it generally comes down to users either not upgrading their software or downloading things they shouldn't. Neither can prevent that.
    DMP89145 likes this.
    08-26-2017 06:32 AM
  19. Spencerdl's Avatar
    I don't think there's much of a doubt, because of it's open nature, that Android is more vulnerable to attacks. That being said, both are pretty secure these days and it generally comes down to users either not upgrading their software or downloading things they shouldn't. Neither can prevent that.
    EXACTLY this. I would like to add...ANYTHING can be hacked.
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    08-26-2017 08:58 AM
  20. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    Android tends to have more low kernel exploits and apple tends to have a lot more of high kernel exploits(something like that).androids fragmentation just makes that worse. Reason why I said apple has more scares is because  products are just more valuable. Apple pays upwards of half a mil for a exploit so people will try harder to find exploits on apple. Back some months ago apple had over 900 exploits in its OS and google had over 6/700.

    Some instances within the past year: siri bypass, password bypass, activation/icloud lock bypass, public WiFi hack, apps with malicious code(some which are still in app store). With Google it's mostly just malicious apps and the public WiFi hack as well but that got patched months ago.
    Apple patches anything comes along pretty quick in updates. If you're jailbroken or don't otherwise update, you put yourself at risk. I'm still on 10.1.1. I'll take the risk for now.
    08-26-2017 01:37 PM
  21. MooMooPrincess's Avatar
    Apple patches anything comes along pretty quick in updates. If you're jailbroken or don't otherwise update, you put yourself at risk. I'm still on 10.1.1. I'll take the risk for now.
    I'm on 10.1.1 as well as jailbroken, I'm aware of the risks of staying lower. I don't use public WiFi if I'm out and there's a lot of people in that area and I don't use malicious apps or pirate tweaks or click phisy links. It's not hard to do said things
    libra89 likes this.
    08-26-2017 01:43 PM
  22. comiken205's Avatar
    Just out of curiosity what department is that?
    CBP
    08-27-2017 01:42 AM
  23. ItnStln's Avatar
    CBP
    Interesting. The DOD people I know who have issued phones are all Samsung Galaxy models. I’m sure DOD requires more security than CPB. Of interest though are the iPads that are issued for Electronic Flight Bags. They’re not allowed to have their official .mil email addresses on the iPads my Uncle, who’s an Air Force pilot, told me.
    08-27-2017 11:13 AM
  24. comiken205's Avatar
    Interesting. The DOD people I know who have issued phones are all Samsung Galaxy models. I’m sure DOD requires more security than CPB. Of interest though are the iPads that are issued for Electronic Flight Bags. They’re not allowed to have their official .mil email addresses on the iPads my Uncle, who’s an Air Force pilot, told me.
    I was told last night DHS uses iOS devices. I don't rank enough to use an issued one.
    08-27-2017 04:09 PM
  25. ItnStln's Avatar
    I was told last night DHS uses iOS devices. I don't rank enough to use an issued one.
    Who all in DHS and CBP get one?
    08-27-2017 05:07 PM
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