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  1. Garz's Avatar
    How did they do it? Were you jailbroken? Were you using any enterprise profile apps?
    No to all the above. Apple never had an answer to what happened except it must be a security vulnerability. Macrumors is a much bigger forum than iMore. There is a thread with 100’s of people it happening to on there. The thread started last summer I believe.
    08-25-2017 11:36 AM
  2. Garz's Avatar
    It really does, it's getting old now. BOTH platforms are secure.



    Not many people are actually getting hacked/viruses though on either platform



    Knoxx IS a huge pain, and its good....android phones are cheaper-ish as well.



    Actually you can download apps from the web like tweakbox that allows you to download cracked apps, you can side load apps via xcode and you can get apps from places like ipastore, so it's pretty much the same as android. Also you pretty much summed up my feelings with your last paragraph, thank you♥️♥️♥️♥️

    I still love  and my iPhone no doubt

    Ps-  had known about a exploit that allows hackers to hack ANY iPhone on iOS 10-10.3.2 using public WiFi for almost half a year and that's a huge security threat and that didn't get fixed till 10.3.3(Google had people do an emergency patch before apple)....theres now a Icloud lock bypass in 10.3.3 that hasn't gotten fixed yet and it works in iOS 11....
    them security patches tho.
    Several good points here showing Apple needs to work on better security. People always assume they are perfect on that. They are far from it. Of course when they find out about a vulnerability, they try and fix it right away. But that activation lock vulnerability that many people were getting took Apple a couple of years until they got it figured out. Or at least I think they did.
    08-25-2017 11:39 AM
  3. ItnStln's Avatar
    Knoxx IS a huge pain, and its good....android phones are cheaper-ish as well.
    My Uncle’s law firm uses Samsung devices running Knox and it’s impressive what they can and can’t control. Plus the security it offers is excellent.
    08-25-2017 11:43 AM
  4. DMP89145's Avatar
    C'mon now... The conversation is more granular than this. By all means modern and up to date Android is as secure as anything in tech. However, Android IS very fragmented and security isn't the same across all devices like it is with Apple.

    My Pixel is as secure as Fort Knox. It's on 7.1.2 and gets every security update within days. My Samsung Note tablet 10.1 (2014) is on 5.1.1 and the last security update was May of 2017. There are older devices out there with older OS and not up to date security as a result. Kit Kat or older is still about 25% of active devices and Kit Kat had all kind of problems.



    That kind of fragmentation causes issues with support. However, with Apple it's like 97% or something that run at least iOS 9 and with that, up to date security.
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    08-25-2017 11:47 AM
  5. MooMooPrincess's Avatar
    How did they do it? Were you jailbroken? Were you using any enterprise profile apps?
    contrary to popular belief it's hard to get hacked jailbroken unless you download pirated tweaks/from dodgy repositories. More iPhone's are hacked while on stock firmware. Any app can cause it, meitu a app company has malicious code in all of their apps and have 100s of millions of downloads and they heavily spy on you more than other apps and a bunch of other crap but they werent made to change their code by apple nor Google. So literally any app on the app store or Google play store can do this.

    My Uncle’s law firm uses Samsung devices running Knox and it’s impressive what they can and can’t control. Plus the security it offers is excellent.
    HATE knoxx cause it prevents rooting

    C'mon now... The conversation is more granular than this. By all means modern and up to date Android is as secure as anything in tech. However, Android IS very fragmented and security isn't the same across all devices like it is with Apple.

    My Pixel is as secure as Fort Knox. It's on 7.1.2 and gets every security update within days. My Samsung Note tablet 10.1 (2014) is on 5.1.1 and the last security update was May of 2017. There are older devices out there with older OS and not up to date security as a result. Kit Kat or older is still about 25% of active devices and Kit Kat had all kind of problems.



    That kind of fragmentation causes issues with support. However, with Apple it's like 97% or something that run at least iOS 9 and with that, up to date security.
    This is true and Google is definitely at fault for this but, at the same time we know that anything below KitKat was horrible anyway. Shame on Google and phone manufacturers for not keeping up to date with most of the phones. There's really no reason as to why people should still be on gingerbread to KitKat. Google needs to limit these devices like apple does. If you have below iOS 9/10 a lot of apps stops support. The same needs to be for android. But people have to be aware like you said, the older your device the less secure it is.
    08-25-2017 12:16 PM
  6. Rob Phillips's Avatar
    Mainly, this constant fear of "security" as it relates to us iPhone owners in our defense of iOS is by and large a non-issue for the majority of cell phone users. It's just something that allows us to sleep better at night. The chances of the majority being affected by these things is quite low.
    Totally agree with this. The chance of facing a security issue is pretty low, whether it be iOS or Android. Honestly, security is pretty far down on my list of reasons I use iOS rather than Android. I do like knowing that, if **** hit the fan, Apple can push out an update very quickly. It’s very well known that this is an issue with Android because of the number of firmware iterations required for all of the different Android devices out there and what they have to go through to get pushed out (carrier, manufacturer, etc.).
    08-25-2017 12:44 PM
  7. Quis89's Avatar
    Well @Jude526, without even knowing it, you created quite the discussion here lol. Great job! Lol.
    08-25-2017 12:49 PM
  8. Quis89's Avatar
    Totally agree with this. The chance of facing a security issue is pretty low, whether it be iOS or Android. Honestly, security is pretty far down on my list of reasons I use iOS rather than Android. I do like knowing that, if **** hit the fan, Apple can push out an update very quickly. It’s very well known that this is an issue with Android because of the number of firmware iterations required for all of the different Android devices out there and what they have to go through to get pushed out (carrier, manufacturer, etc.).
    True. I think that's what Google should figure out. How to keep the carriers hands out of the update process.
    08-25-2017 12:50 PM
  9. Rob Phillips's Avatar
    True. I think that's what Google should figure out. How to keep the carriers hands out of the update process.
    I’m surprised they haven’t already figured it out. Apple did it a long time ago. It’s obviously not impossible.
    08-25-2017 12:57 PM
  10. MooMooPrincess's Avatar
    Tell that to @MooMooPrincess. Apparently my comment that Apple does a better job pushing out security patches is laughable, even though the majority of tech publications (not just those that are Apple-centric) will agree with me.
    You didn't say that, if you had I would've agreed but the part I laughed at was  patching a fix within a day, the only time in the past 3 years  updated within a day was to stop pangu. Even with the WiFi vulnerability issue it took them 4+ months, when iPad bricked it took them a week to fix.
    08-25-2017 12:58 PM
  11. Rob Phillips's Avatar
    ....this made me laugh so hard, I'm sorry. Well just agree to disagree
    How is this funny? Name one Android device that can possibly get a security patch as fast as almost any iPhone?
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    08-25-2017 01:01 PM
  12. Rob Phillips's Avatar
    You didn't say that, if you had I would've agreed but the part I laughed at was  patching a fix within a day, the only time in the past 3 years  updated within a day was to stop pangu. Even with the WiFi vulnerability issue it took them 4+ months, when iPad bricked it took them a week to fix.
    Fair enough. I guess what I was saying is it could be done if Apple deemed it necessary. Google couldn’t make it happen even if they tried.
    08-25-2017 01:05 PM
  13. robertk328's Avatar
    I’m surprised they haven’t already figured it out. Apple did it a long time ago. It’s obviously not impossible.
    What do the carriers pay google to get their crapware on there that apple won’t allow? That’s why they haven’t “figured it out”!
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    08-25-2017 01:13 PM
  14. MooMooPrincess's Avatar
    What do the carriers pay google to get their crapware on there that apple won’t allow? That’s why they haven’t “figured it out”!
    Has to be a good amount LOL Prolly. Actually if I read somewhere they do it for free, like they request the phone has it and the manufacturers follow suit... Like with knoxx,  just rejects. Could be wrong on that
    08-25-2017 01:26 PM
  15. DMP89145's Avatar
    What do the carriers pay google to get their crapware on there that apple won’t allow? That’s why they haven’t “figured it out”!
    That has nothing to do with anything. Google doesn't negotiate terms for LG or Samsung or anyone else for that matter... That's up to the OEM partner.

    Google's hardware doesn't have any bloat, but that's because they control those terms.
    08-25-2017 01:32 PM
  16. ItnStln's Avatar
    HATE knoxx cause it prevents rooting
    Agreed! Did you have to use Knoxx for work?
    08-25-2017 01:35 PM
  17. ItnStln's Avatar
    How is this funny? Name one Android device that can possibly get a security patch as fast as almost any iPhone?
    Any Nexus or Pixel device for starters.
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    08-25-2017 01:36 PM
  18. ItnStln's Avatar
    What do the carriers pay google to get their crapware on there that apple won’t allow? That’s why they haven’t “figured it out”!
    Has to be a good amount LOL Prolly. Actually if I read somewhere they do it for free, like they request the phone has it and the manufacturers follow suit... Like with knoxx,  just rejects. Could be wrong on that
    Not quite. It’s not Google that they’re paying. It’s the device manufactures and the app developers. When I worked for at&t I was told that we get lower rates when we use Uber for travel due to an agreement to put the Uber app on phones. I don’t recall the discount on Uber but I’m sure the other app developers get some sort of kickback too.
    08-25-2017 01:39 PM
  19. MooMooPrincess's Avatar
    Well @Jude526, without even knowing it, you created quite the discussion here lol. Great job! Lol.
    #Judeforambassador2k17

    Agreed! Did you have to use Knoxx for work?
    I did before and I liked it but hated it at the same time LOL
    08-25-2017 01:48 PM
  20. TwitchyPuppy's Avatar
    I'm definitely picking up the Note 8. But I'll return it if I think the next iPhone will be better.

    BTW, my Samsung Galaxy S8 is very secure. I never once feel like it's been compromised. The "iOS being more secure than Android" thing needs to be put to rest.
    Then save yourself aone time and go straight for the next iPhone as it WILL be better than the Note 8
    08-25-2017 02:17 PM
  21. ItnStln's Avatar
    I did before and I liked it but hated it at the same time LOL
    Thanks for the reply! I just looked it up as I haven’t used a Samsung device in a couple years, and it looks like you can now use Knoxx on other Android and iOS devices.
    08-25-2017 02:17 PM
  22. Garz's Avatar
    How is this funny? Name one Android device that can possibly get a security patch as fast as almost any iPhone?
    I get security patch updates pretty regularly on my s8+. Now I agree apple very fast to patch vulnerabilities when they know what they are. But then again, I've seen a specific vulnerability go on for 2 years with apple as well.
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    08-25-2017 02:20 PM
  23. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    Hate to break it to you, there's been more security scares on iOS over android. Main difference is apple "supposedly" cares more about your privacy (but allow Google to be a main search engine)
    Not agreeing or disagreeing. But could you provide specific examples regarding "more security scares" on iOS than Android? Kind of a blanket statement to make. I wouldn't make it in favor of either OS.
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    08-25-2017 04:59 PM
  24. comiken205's Avatar
    Which is probably why a lot of government agencies issue Android phones instead of iPhones.
    In my department it's all iPhones. No androids allowed.
    08-25-2017 05:17 PM
  25. comiken205's Avatar
    I love the Note but I'm not leaving Apple
    08-25-2017 05:18 PM
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