1. sangs's Avatar
    I enjoy tinkering with Android phones, but always seem to end up back with my iPhone(s) after a while. I just end up liking the hardware/software experience more.

    That being said, of all the improvements I wish Apple would implement, at the top of my list would be an easier, quicker way to open the camera app. I just spent several days in a wet environment and trying to open my 7 Plus camera consistently was a royal pita because of the fingerprint sensor. It doesn't play well with wet fingerprints. It's also not the greatest in the cold while wearing gloves.

    All the Android phones I've tried have NAILED the camera opening experience. Whether it's a quick double push of the power button (Samsung), or a flick of the wrist (Moto), a squeeze of the phone sides (HTC), the camera opens quickly and without issue. Wet, dry, hot, or cold. Doesn't matter.

    Any legit reason Apple cannot implement one of these features as well? I can't imagine a double press of the power button to open a camera app is a patented action. Hopefully the iPhone 7S, 8, or whatever the hell it will be called, makes an improvement in that area.
    07-22-2017 08:27 AM
  2. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    You do not have to press the home button to access the camera, depending on your iOS version. You can simply press the power button and then swipe left on the home screen. If that’s still a PITA for you, well, I hope an even more simple way to access the camera will be available soon....
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    07-22-2017 08:31 AM
  3. appolusionist's Avatar
    You can also access the Camera app by swiping left on the lock screen.
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    07-22-2017 08:33 AM
  4. Rob Phillips's Avatar
    You can access the camera from Control Center as well (swipe up from the bottom of your screen and tap the camera icon).
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    07-22-2017 08:33 AM
  5. sangs's Avatar
    ...My question still stands though, is something like a quick double press of the power button a patented action?
    I don’t know.
    Is there any reason Apple can not implement such a simple thing?
    Maybe, maybe not.
    All those ways still involve more than one action.
    True, but you appear to be the only person it’s affecting thus far.
    Last edited by Just_Me_D; 07-22-2017 at 02:32 PM.
    07-22-2017 08:51 AM
  6. chezm's Avatar
    You can also access the Camera app by swiping left on the lock screen.
    Yup this is what I did, just got back from a hiking trip where we did swim a lot and get some great photos this feature worked great. But getting access to your phone by unlocking it, ya wet hands doesn't work at all.
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    07-22-2017 09:42 AM
  7. TwitchyPuppy's Avatar
    I'm aware of all those, thank you. They're still problematic with wet hands however.
    Wipe them or use the back of your finger to swipe left
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    07-22-2017 09:47 AM
  8. sangs's Avatar
    So I'm a man on an island with this wish I guess...
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    07-22-2017 10:42 AM
  9. Tartarus's Avatar
    If opening the camera with your fingers doesn’t work, simply say ‘Hey Siri, Open camera’ and she will happily oblige.
    07-22-2017 12:17 PM
  10. sangs's Avatar
    I guess it's too difficult to admit others do it better. Two clicks of a power button, and the camera opens. Lightning fast, no matter what the conditions are. It's a better system than what Apple offers and nobody has given a reason why it can't be implemented, which is really all I was looking for. (The Siri method is awful btw. Unless you're not in a hurry to capture a quick photo. "Hey Siri." Pause, pause, beep, beep. "Open camera." Moment gone.) Also, try using all the other Apple methods with gloves on in the cold. And I'm not talking special phone gloves. It's impossible. Know what can be done with gloves on? Clicking a power button. Anyway, hope Apple is looking into it.
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    07-22-2017 01:57 PM
  11. Tartarus's Avatar
    It has nothing to do with better or not.
    I don’t like all those rings and bells on my phones.
    Most android devices still have a dedicated camera button and I hate it. Every time I pick up a friends android device I accidentally open the camera.

    I’m content with how Apple has implemented it.
    Like others have said, there are three ways to open it on the screen and one with voice.
    It took me 1 second to open the camera with a voice command.
    The Netherlands is a rainy country and even then I’m taking loads of photos, on sunny and rainy days. I haven’t even once run in the issues you mention.
    07-22-2017 02:02 PM
  12. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    I just wet my finger and was able to swipe left on the lockscreen.
    07-22-2017 02:16 PM
  13. Wildo6882's Avatar
    I guess it's too difficult to admit others do it better. Two clicks of a power button, and the camera opens. Lightning fast, no matter what the conditions are. It's a better system than what Apple offers and nobody has given a reason why it can't be implemented, which is really all I was looking for. (The Siri method is awful btw. Unless you're not in a hurry to capture a quick photo. "Hey Siri." Pause, pause, beep, beep. "Open camera." Moment gone.) Also, try using all the other Apple methods with gloves on in the cold. And I'm not talking special phone gloves. It's impossible. Know what can be done with gloves on? Clicking a power button. Anyway, hope Apple is looking into it.
    I'm an Apple user. But the responses you're getting are Apple apologist responses. Other companies do it better. Plain and simple. For a company so focused on cameras and photos, one would assume that they would want their camera to be able to be opened as quickly as possible. A double press of the home button or power button can take place in your pocket and be active before you even get your phone out. You're not a man on a deserted island. I'm right here with you.
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    07-22-2017 02:26 PM
  14. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    I guess it's too difficult to admit others do it better. Two clicks of a power button, and the camera opens. Lightning fast, no matter what the conditions are. It's a better system than what Apple offers and nobody has given a reason why it can't be implemented, which is really all I was looking for. (The Siri method is awful btw. Unless you're not in a hurry to capture a quick photo. "Hey Siri." Pause, pause, beep, beep. "Open camera." Moment gone.) Also, try using all the other Apple methods with gloves on in the cold. And I'm not talking special phone gloves. It's impossible. Know what can be done with gloves on? Clicking a power button. Anyway, hope Apple is looking into it.
    Apple is often not the first or even the best at implementing certain things, but what they do, they tend to do well. Apple, just like any other company knows that it will never be able to please everyone. That’s just how it is. If a company creates a mechanism that allows the easiest access to the camera, kudos to them. What those of us here at iMore try to do is to help people make the most of what they have - in this instance, an Apple iPhone and thus the reason for the answers you’ve been given. It has nothing to do with not admitting this or that. The iPhone does not currently have the kind of access to the camera function that you desire. Why? We do not know, but I recommend you submit your request/inquiry directly to Apple via the following link, if you’d like.

    https://www.apple.com/feedback/
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    07-22-2017 02:39 PM
  15. chezm's Avatar
    I'm an Apple user. But the responses you're getting are Apple apologist responses. Other companies do it better. Plain and simple. For a company so focused on cameras and photos, one would assume that they would want their camera to be able to be opened as quickly as possible. A double press of the home button or power button can take place in your pocket and be active before you even get your phone out. You're not a man on a deserted island. I'm right here with you.
    Apple apologist responses? I don't think anyone has said the solution we have works better than the alternative, but just stating it works for us. If I had the option to double press the power to launch camera then great, but to some of us maybe it's not an end all be all feature we need. Yes sure having the camera ready before needing to wake it up or pull it out and wipe to the left is nice to have, but that extra second never broke my experience yet. But I guess I'll be deemed someone who is defending iOS so I'll leave it at that.
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    07-22-2017 06:13 PM
  16. Wildo6882's Avatar
    Apple apologist responses? I don't think anyone has said the solution we have works better than the alternative, but just stating it works for us. If I had the option to double press the power to launch camera then great, but to some of us maybe it's not an end all be all feature we need. Yes sure having the camera ready before needing to wake it up or pull it out and wipe to the left is nice to have, but that extra second never broke my experience yet. But I guess I'll be deemed someone who is defending iOS so I'll leave it at that.
    Yes. It's apologist. No one can admit that there's a better way. As long as Apple does it then it's fine. That mentality leaves tech from progressing. But there are better and quicker ways to open up the camera. I have missed pictures with little kids because I fumbled the lock screen swipe or the control center swipe. On a Samsung phone you can always double press the home button or the power button on the S8 series. No matter whether the phone is locked or unlocked. This is a better way than how Apple does it. It's quicker and you don't have to look at anything. With small children, that extra half second can honestly mean everything. I'm still using an iPhone because it's the best option for me. But iOS needs a quick launch for the camera.
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    07-22-2017 06:23 PM
  17. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    Yes. It's apologist. No one can admit that there's a better way. As long as Apple does it then it's fine. That mentality leaves tech from progressing. But there are better and quicker ways to open up the camera. I have missed pictures with little kids because I fumbled the lock screen swipe or the control center swipe. On a Samsung phone you can always double press the home button or the power button on the S8 series. No matter whether the phone is locked or unlocked. This is a better way than how Apple does it. It's quicker and you don't have to look at anything. With small children, that extra half second can honestly mean everything. I'm still using an iPhone because it's the best option for me. But iOS needs a quick launch for the camera.
    No apologist here. I never used an Android phone before. But with iPhone, I set it to "raise to wake". So I raise phone, swipe left, shoot. Takes less than 1 second. Why would any iPhone user be apologetic about that?
    07-22-2017 07:11 PM
  18. Wildo6882's Avatar
    No apologist here. I never used an Android phone before. But with iPhone, I set it to "raise to wake". So I raise phone, swipe left, shoot. Takes less than 1 second. Why would any iPhone user be apologetic about that?
    There are better ways. That's all I'm saying. Other phones are much quicker. And I want my iPhone to be quicker. I have lots of kids I gotta catch up to!
    07-22-2017 07:14 PM
  19. Tartarus's Avatar
    There are better ways. That's all I'm saying. Other phones are much quicker. And I want my iPhone to be quicker. I have lots of kids I gotta catch up to!
    We can’t help you on this.
    You really should convince the people on https://www.apple.com/feedback/ about this, so they will pass it up to the iOS developers department and they will have to implement it.

    No matter how many people here apologizes or not doesn’t change that fact.
    It’s up to Apple, not you and not us.
    Thank you.
    07-23-2017 01:11 AM
  20. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Yes. It's apologist.
    No. it is simply your perception.
    No one can admit that there's a better way.
    It is our understanding that there is always a better way of doing certain things and the situation with the camera is no different.
    As long as Apple does it then it's fine.
    That is another misconception that people who prefer we see things in the same manner as they do often regurgitate.
    That mentality leaves tech from progressing.
    That mentality is false. It’s like not understanding why a person would choose a Honda Civic over a BMW 335. It’s simply a matter of personal choice.
    But there are better and quicker ways to open up the camera. I have missed pictures with little kids because I fumbled the lock screen swipe or the control center swipe. On a Samsung phone you can always double press the home button or the power button on the S8 series. No matter whether the phone is locked or unlocked. This is a better way than how Apple does it. It's quicker and you don't have to look at anything. With small children, that extra half second can honestly mean everything. I'm still using an iPhone because it's the best option for me. But iOS needs a quick launch for the camera.
    That is a better way, but that better way doesn’t mean that the current way is inconvenient to everyone. It may be an inconvenient to you and a few others, but not to the vast majority. But you tend to want the majority to perceive this as a major inconvenience when it is not. It has nothing to do with love for Apple or being an apologist, but a matter of not being inconvenienced about it in the same manner as you appear to be. That’s all.
    07-23-2017 07:45 AM
  21. Wildo6882's Avatar
    No. it is simply your perception. It is our understanding that there is always a better way of doing certain things and the situation with the camera is no different. That is another misconception that people who prefer we see things in the same manner as they do often regurgitate. That mentality is false. It’s like not understanding why a person would choose a Honda Civic over a BMW 335. It’s simply a matter of personal choice.
    That is a better way, but that better way doesn’t mean that the current way is inconvenient to everyone. It may be an inconvenient to you and a few others, but not to the vast majority. But you tend to want the majority to perceive this as a major inconvenience when it is not. It has nothing to do with love for Apple or being an apologist, but a matter of not being inconvenienced about it in the same manner as you appear to be. That’s all.
    This is what I'm saying: there are better ways. Apple's way is not the best. Does it suck? No. But it can be inconvenient at times. Why do we not want Apple to make an even more convenient way of doing it? To say that it's fine as it is misses the point that it can be better. Not a single person acknowledged the OPs thoughts aside from me. Everyone just said it was fine as it was. It's not a matter of choice. There is a better way. Just because you're fine with how it is doesn't mean there isn't a better way. Your argument of Honda vs BMW isn't even remotely on point. This wouldn't cost 3x what swiping the lock screen to the left would cost. It would be equal. It would be like saying a regular Honda Accord and a Honda Accord with air conditioning and automatic windows cost the same, but you keep choosing the Accord without AC and auto windows. Because it's fine for you.
    07-23-2017 08:00 AM
  22. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    This is what I'm saying: there are better ways. Apple's way is not the best. Does it suck? No. But it can be inconvenient at times. Why do we not want Apple to make an even more convenient way of doing it?
    Nobody is saying that they don’t want Apple improving on things. That’s an assumption arguably based on our failure to feel about this matter in the same manner as you.
    To say that it's fine as it is misses the point that it can be better. Not a single person acknowledged the OPs thoughts aside from me.
    That comment proves my point. We don’t view this matter in the same light as you and the OP so therefore, we are lemmings, apologists, etcetera, and we’re missing the point. That’s an elitist viewpoint, in my opinion.
    Everyone just said it was fine as it was.
    Many who replied said that they were fine with how it currently is. They also tried to convey to the OP different ways of getting to the camera. In other words, they were trying to be helpful based on the way the iPhone and iOS currently are.
    It's not a matter of choice. There is a better way. Just because you're fine with how it is doesn't mean there isn't a better way.
    You’re concluding that Apple isn’t working on a better way and that we aren’t acknowledging that there’s a better way. I flat out stated that there’s a better way, but that better way has yet to be instituted on the iPhone. With that in mind, what should we do about it “today”? Should we complain in vain about a better way that does not yet exist on the iPhone and assume that Apple isn’t working on a better way or should we make an attempt to assist the OP by showing him or her the various ways in which he or she can access the camera?
    Your argument of Honda vs BMW isn't even remotely on point. This wouldn't cost 3x what swiping the lock screen to the left would cost. It would be equal. It would be like saying a regular Honda Accord and a Honda Accord with air conditioning and automatic windows cost the same, but you keep choosing the Accord without AC and auto windows. Because it's fine for you.
    My apologies for forgetting to state that, “if the price of both vehicles were the same....”. Anyway, I do understand what you and the OP are saying. I really do, but I think you are mistaken to assume that because we are not inconvenienced to the same degree as you in this matter that somehow we don’t want Apple to make improvements.
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    07-23-2017 08:32 AM
  23. Sherry_B's Avatar
    Yes. It's apologist. No one can admit that there's a better way.
    I carry a DSLR. That's a better way for me. Everyone uses their phone differently. Personally I wouldn't care of the camera was totally removed from the phone. I use my phone for calls and keeping in touch with my family. The camera is just an added convenience.
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    07-23-2017 10:08 AM
  24. Spencerdl's Avatar
    Wow, there are so many ways to access the camera. You couldn't find one to your liking?
    07-23-2017 10:20 AM
  25. Tartarus's Avatar
    Wow, there are so many ways to access the camera. You couldn't find one to your liking?
    OP is not realizing that the different ways that other manufacturers are using are patented and such.
    Apple simply can’t use every tech that’s available without paying royalties. And there is a limit on how much they are willing to pay for royalties they could otherwise save on.
    This is apparently one thing they wanted to pay no royalties for. The current ways to access the camera are apparently sufficient for the majority of their users.

    Besides, paying more royalties will always result in more expensive devices, and we all can agree there is a limit on how much more we’re willing to pay.
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    07-23-2017 10:24 AM
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