[MonkeyJunky]

The 7 Plus is worth the upgrade. It is quicker than the previous Plus, just a little. The camera alone is worth the upgrade. I have really come to appreciate the haptic home button as well. And the black phones are pretty sweet. I have the jet black and was positive I was going to go gold this time around for a change as I have always had a black face. But the black phones were so nice looking I had to stay with it.

Of course I'm not going to argue opinions as we all have different perspectives and preferences, and we are all impressed by different levels of experience. To me though, this camera on the 7 Plus hasn't really shown me anything truly impressive. It takes great pictures, but so did my 6S Plus. So far, I've personally not found this value that so many have with the camera, and I've used it A LOT (I've taken about 600 photos with it so far of varying styles and environments).

And to add insult to injury, my iPhone seems to have some kind of bug where the screen becomes unresponsive about 1-2 times every couple of days.

I've seriously considered throwing it on eBay and making some money and hoping next year brings me something I'm truly impressed with again.

[anon(9602380)]

Of course I'm not going to argue opinions as we all have different perspectives and preferences, and we are all impressed by different levels of experience. To me though, this camera on the 7 Plus hasn't really shown me anything truly impressive. It takes great pictures, but so did my 6S Plus. So far, I've personally not found this value that so many have with the camera, and I've used it A LOT (I've taken about 600 photos with it so far of varying styles and environments).

And to add insult to injury, my iPhone seems to have some kind of bug where the screen becomes unresponsive about 1-2 times every couple of days.

I've seriously considered throwing it on eBay and making some money and hoping next year brings me something I'm truly impressed with again.

Hey no problem, I get that we have different opinions and I respect that. Obviously we have had different experiences with our phones. I would probably feel the same way if I was having issues. I guess I have been fortunate. I have done some very nice videos & pictures with my phone and am impressed with the quality for a phone camera. But it is not my only option, I have a video camera & DSLR should I require high end videos or images to work with. But I fully understand your point of view. Thanks!

[n8ter#AC]

The 7 Plus is worth the upgrade. It is quicker than the previous Plus, just a little. The camera alone is worth the upgrade. I have really come to appreciate the haptic home button as well. And the black phones are pretty sweet. I have the jet black and was positive I was going to go gold this time around for a change as I have always had a black face. But the black phones were so nice looking I had to stay with it.

$800+ to upgrade a smartphone camera sounds like a great investment...

The 7 cameras aren't better enough to warrant spending that kind of money.

I'd totally keep the 6S Plus and buy a DSLR or Mirrorless Compact camera if having a good camera meant that much, though...

[MooMooPrincess]

The 7 Plus is worth the upgrade. It is quicker than the previous Plus, just a little. The camera alone is worth the upgrade. I have really come to appreciate the haptic home button as well. And the black phones are pretty sweet. I have the jet black and was positive I was going to go gold this time around for a change as I have always had a black face. But the black phones were so nice looking I had to stay with it.

I ended up placing an order, maybe I'll be able to pick one up in store for a black 256 but we'll see when I get it

[iOSConvert2k14]

I ended up placing an order, maybe I'll be able to pick one up in store for a black 256 but we'll see when I get it

Jet black or matte?

[jianrong]

That nice.

[anon(9602380)]

$800+ to upgrade a smartphone camera sounds like a great investment...

The 7 cameras aren't better enough to warrant spending that kind of money.

I'd totally keep the 6S Plus and buy a DSLR or Mirrorless Compact camera if having a good camera meant that much, though...

I own a DSLR camera & video recorder. But having to carry around a big camera bag is not always convenient. They have their time and place. But it is nice to have a phone that can take a decent shot and fits in my pocket. The camera is not the only reason I went with the 7 Plus. There are other features that I wanted, like new processor, larger storage, water & dust resistance, no headphone jack and so on.

I ended up placing an order, maybe I'll be able to pick one up in store for a black 256 but we'll see when I get it

Nice. I have been enjoying mine. Give it a decent run through, which I'm sure you will. I know it isn't for everyone and many are not upgrading, but the 7 has been really optimized to run iOS 10, plus the added features that will be coming soon.

[rdstryr]

From what I've read, 6s to a 7 isn't really that big of an upgrade. Unless you just have to have a faster phone with a better camera. Now me, I'm going from a 5s to a 7 so it will be the best thing EVER lol.

[mogelijk]

From what I've read, 6s to a 7 isn't really that big of an upgrade. Unless you just have to have a faster phone with a better camera. Now me, I'm going from a 5s to a 7 so it will be the best thing EVER lol.

There are a few others. None are game changers by themselves but, collectively, it is a fair amount of improvement. It has the better haptics, the new home "button," waterproofing, better radios, better battery life (partially because of the processor). You mentioned the camera and faster processor. Of course, the "drawback" (at least for some people) is the lack of headphone jack -- which allows for the better haptics and larger battery.

[MonkeyJunky]

$800+ to upgrade a smartphone camera sounds like a great investment...

The 7 cameras aren't better enough to warrant spending that kind of money.

I'd totally keep the 6S Plus and buy a DSLR or Mirrorless Compact camera if having a good camera meant that much, though...

lol! You have to love someone who likes to assess worth and value on other people's investments in this nature. What a joke.

[n8ter#AC]

I own a DSLR camera & video recorder. But having to carry around a big camera bag is not always convenient. They have their time and place. But it is nice to have a phone that can take a decent shot and fits in my pocket. The camera is not the only reason I went with the 7 Plus. There are other features that I wanted, like new processor, larger storage, water & dust resistance, no headphone jack and so on.

I cannot really empathize because I don't think:

DSC-RX100 III Compact Digital Camera | Cyber-shot Pocket Camera | Sony US

Is inconvenient to carry around.

I don't think an upgraded smartphone camera is worth $900+, which is basically what was stated (it's worth it just for the upgraded camera). I just don't see how such a thing could be logically explained other than "I'm spending the money because I want to," which is perfectly valid BTW. I mean, part of the reason why people ask these questions (is it worth the upgrade) is to fish out reasons to spend money on things they sort of think aren't really worth what is being asked :-P

It's still no logical justification which indicates that the camera upgrade even approaches $900 in value.

It just doesn't.

A good compact camera will blow a phone away in both Photography and Videography. You don't need two extra devices, only one compact, extremely portable camera which delivers results well worth the investment.

Everyone is still free to spend their money as they wish. I don't work their job for them ;-)

[nikkimd11]

I got my 7 Plus on release day. It's always fun to get a shiny new toy, and I was excited to unwrap it and set it up. It set up flawlessly, and dropped me right back into my comfort zone with iOS 10 and a reliable smart phone. Camera takes great pictures, stereo speaker is definitely an improvement, and it does feel snappier than my out going 6S Plus.

But honestly, I could have lived with my previous phone for another year and I wouldn't have been missing anything I desperately want or need from this new device. Nothing has charmed me or blown my socks off really. Its just a really efficient, well running iPhone, which is exactly what my 6S Plus was as well.

No hating on it, its a lovely device and it works as good or better than I expect iPhone's to year in and year out. Unfortunately I'm actually starting to FEEL that statement now. Year in...Year out. I don't feel like anything screams to me as worthy of the "upgrade" really, its just another great iPhone.

I hate to do this because it's almost always a sure fire way to get disappointed within your own fantasy, but I really REALLY hope the next generation is a big enhancement both visually and technologically. Right now I feel like I bought an iPhone 6S Plus S and could take it or leave it.

I agree, if you are coming from the 6s/6s+,it's not worth the upgrade. I am a big apple fan and would love to have all their new products when released but I am realistic and I don't need the new phone when mine (6s) is very similar. I tend to keep my phones for about 2 years before upgrading. I really hope that for next year apple finally brings a game changing phone for its anniversary.

[knotsure]

Love that 256gb storage. Love the home button. Love the water resistance. Love the matte black. I upgraded from a 6s to the 7 and I feel it was a major upgrade. Obviously you don't agree, but I am very happy with my 7. That said I probably would not have upgraded if it wasn't for the 256gb storage.

[rdstryr]

There are a few others. None are game changers by themselves but, collectively, it is a fair amount of improvement. It has the better haptics, the new home "button," waterproofing, better radios, better battery life (partially because of the processor). You mentioned the camera and faster processor. Of course, the "drawback" (at least for some people) is the lack of headphone jack -- which allows for the better haptics and larger battery.

Oh don't get me wrong, if I had a 6s on the upgrade program I would definitely still upgrade. I was just mentioning those 2 major improvements as that is what most people see it as compared to a 6s.

[kilofoxtrot]

Welcome to the mature smartphone world. The iPhone isn't the only smartphone with a "meh" upgrade issue.

[Adranalyne]

I haven't really noticed a massive difference in real world usage from the 6S Plus to the 7 Plus, but I can say that the things that matter the most to me are improved/added in the 7 Plus. Battery life, while not night and day, is better. I just don't worry about running out of battery life anymore and that's important in any phone. The display is noticeably better with the wide color gamut. The speakers are noticeably better. It's water resistant. The camera, including the addition of the telephoto lens/Portrait Mode, make a difference in knowing you can get a good shot in low light. It's also ridiculously fast.

The 6S Plus is fast, has great battery life, a nice display, and a great camera. If I wasn't someone who bought phones like he does lunch, I'd probably have stuck with the 6S Plus and been just fine with it. They didn't make the 7 to regress----they made it to refine/improve/add. I feel they've done that.

[shadowboxer8]

I cannot really empathize because I don't think:

DSC-RX100 III Compact Digital Camera | Cyber-shot Pocket Camera | Sony US

Is inconvenient to carry around.

I don't think an upgraded smartphone camera is worth $900+, which is basically what was stated (it's worth it just for the upgraded camera). I just don't see how such a thing could be logically explained other than "I'm spending the money because I want to," which is perfectly valid BTW. I mean, part of the reason why people ask these questions (is it worth the upgrade) is to fish out reasons to spend money on things they sort of think aren't really worth what is being asked :-P

It's still no logical justification which indicates that the camera upgrade even approaches $900 in value.

It just doesn't.

A good compact camera will blow a phone away in both Photography and Videography. You don't need two extra devices, only one compact, extremely portable camera which delivers results well worth the investment.

Everyone is still free to spend their money as they wish. I don't work their job for them ;-)

Not to be a ********* to anyone but I see your point. People are allowed to spend their money who they see fit and no one has the right to tell them otherwise. I work hard for the money I earn. It will be a cold day in hell before someone TELLS me what I can or can not buy with my own money. However, I do kinda wonder about folks who just willing to drop 800-1,000 on a smart phone EVERY year. I am a person that previous only spent like 200-300 dollars on an iphone and only upgraded every two years. This is the first time in my life were I spent 800 dollars on a phone (well technically only 600 since I traded in my iphone 6 and got 200 dollar credit). So needless to say I won't be upgrading again for at least two or three years as I just don't see the point in spending that kinda of money on a phone on a yearly basis. I would rather use the money for a vacation or to put in my saving account etc. I love tech and I love Apple but at the end of the day I just can't justify spending that kind of money. Like I said if I did have a 6s Plus then I defintely would not have upgraded to the 7 Plus as to be honest it's really not worth the upgrade if you in that situation but again opinions differ.

[Craig]

Not to be a ********* to anyone but I see your point. People are allowed to spend their money who they see fit and no one has the right to tell them otherwise. I work hard for the money I earn. It will be a cold day in hell before someone TELLS me what I can or can not buy with my own money. However, I do kinda wonder about folks who just willing to drop 800-1,000 on a smart phone EVERY year. I am a person that previous only spent like 200-300 dollars on an iphone and only upgraded every two years. This is the first time in my life were I spent 800 dollars on a phone (well technically only 600 since I traded in my iphone 6 and got 200 dollar credit). So needless to say I won't be upgrading again for at least two or three years as I just don't see the point in spending that kinda of money on a phone on a yearly basis. I would rather use the money for a vacation or to put in my saving account etc. I love tech and I love Apple but at the end of the day I just can't justify spending that kind of money. Like I said if I did have a 6s Plus then I defintely would not have upgraded to the 7 Plus as to be honest it's really not worth the upgrade if you in that situation but again opinions differ.

Because for some of us, it's our only luxury and treat. I don't get vacation time, I don't have a fancy car or car payments, I don't have a huge TV or Surround sound, etc.. it's my phone and tablet. It's my luxury.

[Hendri Hendri]

You can wash iphone 7/+ though

Anyone tried that yet ?

[Ledsteplin]

Not to be a ********* to anyone but I see your point. People are allowed to spend their money who they see fit and no one has the right to tell them otherwise. I work hard for the money I earn. It will be a cold day in hell before someone TELLS me what I can or can not buy with my own money. However, I do kinda wonder about folks who just willing to drop 800-1,000 on a smart phone EVERY year. I am a person that previous only spent like 200-300 dollars on an iphone and only upgraded every two years. This is the first time in my life were I spent 800 dollars on a phone (well technically only 600 since I traded in my iphone 6 and got 200 dollar credit). So needless to say I won't be upgrading again for at least two or three years as I just don't see the point in spending that kinda of money on a phone on a yearly basis. I would rather use the money for a vacation or to put in my saving account etc. I love tech and I love Apple but at the end of the day I just can't justify spending that kind of money. Like I said if I did have a 6s Plus then I defintely would not have upgraded to the 7 Plus as to be honest it's really not worth the upgrade if you in that situation but again opinions differ.

That's how I see it as well. My 6s Plus is a great phone. The 7 Plus just doesn't offer me enough to upgrade now. I'll probably upgrade next year though.

[n8ter#AC]

I got the iPhone 7 Plus, cause why not?

I stand by what I stated earlier in the thread. Unless you have money to burn, or you aren't even buying the phone for yourself; it isn't worth upgrading from a 6 Plus.

Not for the camera, and definitely not for anything else.

After a week or so, after the new wears off, you will not notice the difference in performance or anything. Battery life is also the same. I doubt anyone is getting an extra hour out of this battery. Lol

[LDYNREDD]

From what I've read, 6s to a 7 isn't really that big of an upgrade. Unless you just have to have a faster phone with a better camera. Now me, I'm going from a 5s to a 7 so it will be the best thing EVER lol.

I'm jumping even further than you, I jumped from the Blackberry ship so expect to be absolutely overwhelmed with the joy of using a phone that supports apps, is fast, has a great camera, water resistant, big/bright screen....

Best thing ever for me too

With respect to dslr cameras, I considered getting one before ordering the phone but thought to myself, although the pictures are not professional quality, the best camera is the one you have with you!

I rarely bring my digital camera anywhere with me but always have my phone and have taken hundreds of less than stellar pictures with my z30, so I expect to be thrilled with the improvement.

To each, his own

[TLD1]

I was on the fence for a long time about upgrading, especially in respect to the very slight differences...but I finally jumped from the 6s to the 7, and felt like I had the same phone as before. I then decided to jump into the Plus-club...and now feel like the upgrade was completely justified. I completely overbought in choosing a 256gb Matte Black Plus...but I got what I wanted when I wanted it (extremely important! ) and being on the monthly payment plan with Verizon, I'm only paying $7 more a month for my new phone than I was for the 6s or 7, and I'd be paying another year anyway...so why not pay for the latest/greatest?