Couragegate

[Hoggles]

One thing is certain. Apple is the undisputed king of needing an adaptor to do simple things.

I guess the road to wireless is paved with dongles.

Looking forward to the 7+ though....for sure

 

[jarofclay73]

Belkin Lightning Audio + Charge RockStar?

You're welcome.

 

[worldspy99]

So we'll need a USB-C to lightning adapter to plug into our lightning to 3.5mm adapter to plug into our headphones.

Ding Dong
Who's there?
Double Dongle...

 

[worldspy99]

One thing is certain. Apple is the undisputed king of needing an adaptor to do simple things.

I guess the road to wireless is paved with dongles.

Looking forward to the 7+ though....for sure

Small price to pay for backward compatibility.

 

[jarofclay73]

They are giving away 1 adapter. It will get lost, due to it's small size. Then how much to replace? Adapters were used before on older Smartphones before the iPhone, they had dongles. They were hated then, and will be hated now.
- more expense. (P.S. the iPhone 7 Plus went up $20!!!)
- more connections
- more lost items
- less operability.
= not good.

The Apple Lightning to 3.5" plug is $9. Also, the iPhone 7 storage options are up 100%! iPhone 7 has IP67 water resistance. Darker and shinier black finishes. Non-physical and customizable Home button. Better camera. Retina HD display with wider color gamut. Faster chip. Stereo speakers. Faster LTE. iOS 10.

=

It's not all bad.

 

[worldspy99]

Disclaimer: I do intend to purchase two iPhone 7 devices.
That doesn't mean that I cannot find Apple's #JackOff decision to be boneheaded. I get it that despite all the reasons pointed out during the keynote and afterwards this is basically all about $$$....the "Courage" reason is pure marketing PR and Apple does Marketing better than any other company out there. If they were truly doing it because of "Courage" they would have had the guts to say that it's all about bringing in more revenue.
1. #1 wireless BT headphones are Beats = more $$$ for Apple
2. Every MFi certified dongle or headphones = licensing fee per widget sold
3. Every time you lose a dongle, $9 per one
4. Throw in the towel and buy Air Pods = even more $$$ for Apple

This is only a ploy to line their pockets, plain and simple. This is only a win-win scenario for Apple.

 

[swarlos]

For those of you saying you won't be able to use the AirPods on long flights are obviously forgetting they come in a case that charges the airpods for up to 24 hours before itself needs to be charged. So theoretically you use the AirPods for 5 hours then they die put them into the charging case and a 15 min charge is supposed to give you 3 hours of extra use. So bam 8 hours or more if you charge them longer.

 

[Omonja]

More stuff to take care of, more stuff to charge, more stuff to buy from, um, Apple, more money fo A...!

 

[rdmartin1]

Bluetooth has been out for years now I don't see why this is such a big deal. I've been using LG Tone Pros for the last two years. They are comfortable and work with every device I own. My last to sets of EarPods were given to others. Time to move on.

 

[sangs]

Ding Dong
Who's there?
Double Dongle...

That's what she said?

 

[Nargg]

Those that keep saying "you'll get used to it." are clueless. Dongles for audio were a thing 10+ years ago, and globally hated. Though smartphones back then were few, so it was not a big story. But users still hated them very much. Apple brought out the iPhone and touted that it had the jack. This jack is NOT legacy. I'll use the example again of it's like saying the wheel is legacy. Sure it's an old design, but it works and works better than anything else that tries to replace it. Not is all situations, no. But for more things than just one too. Saying it's old is an excuse to force people to buy things by removing an option that was not needed to be removed.

The NYT has an article on Apple's reputation, and how it's changes are starting to damage it's reputation. People are paying attention to this, and seeing it as a problem. Apple went too far. That's not a first for them, as Apple has back peddled before on other decisions. Though none this big.

This morning, I did a few simple checks to sites selling the iPhone. None seem overwhelmed as to make the purchase difficult. Being one that I've sat patiently waiting for the time to pre-order I've seen the site crashes and quick sell outs of iPhone before. I'm not seeing that this morning. The shipping dates have not slipped yet. And, with Apple refusing to state sales number this time saying "it's more about supply than demain" which is utter B.S. as the sales are driven by pre-orders and don't stop once the phones are gone. They can still sell the iPhone for later delivery.

All of us can only hope that Apple's next risky move is not any worse than this one.

 

[kch50428]

Look back to when Apple quit floppy drives... Same thing here. Get over it. Move on. Apple has... to keep the audio jack around just "because it's always been done this way" is foolhardy.

 

[aokusman1]

Look back to when Apple quit floppy drives... Same thing here. Get over it. Move on. Apple has... to keep the audio jack around just "because it's always been done this way" is foolhardy.

How is it the same thing? Floppy was already on its way out and Apple just stopped using it early, same with the cd drive. The headphone jack is super useful and Apple replaced it with proprietary standard. That's the real issue. All other phone will replace the headphone jack with USB-C, which Apple will have on its laptops.

 

[kch50428]

How is it the same thing? Floppy was already on its way out and Apple just stopped using it early, same with the cd drive...

The audio jack is on its way out, and Apple just stopped using it...

 

[aokusman1]

The audio jack is on its way out, and Apple just stopped using it...

What's the advantage of removing to jack?

 

[BreakingKayfabe]

For those of you saying you won't be able to use the AirPods on long flights are obviously forgetting they come in a case that charges the airpods for up to 24 hours before itself needs to be charged. So theoretically you use the AirPods for 5 hours then they die put them into the charging case and a 15 min charge is supposed to give you 3 hours of extra use. So bam 8 hours or more if you charge them longer.

If anyone is willing to spend $160 on those things, they're better off spending that money on better Bluetooth headphones/pods.

 

[worldspy99]

If anyone is willing to spend $160 on those things, they're better off spending that money on better Bluetooth headphones/pods.

Finally, this is what makes better sense. I am all for buying a pair of wireless BT headphones.

My issue about the audio jack is I have two cars that rely on being able to use the headphone jack and charge the device at the same time. They are older cars so no BT. I am not about to go out and buy new cars so that I can do this fairly simple and basic task.

I know, I know, soon there will be this dual charging / audio jack dongles galore from 3rd party vendors and heck even Apple might make one so that they can keep their customers "delighted" and make more money of their base.

Pretty soon we will have more dongles than we can count floating around everywhere and every dongle lost or that needs replacing is music to Apple's bottom line.

 

[kch50428]

You can get Bluetooth devices that your phone will connect to that you can plug into your dated car audio system...

 

[Guacho]

it doesnt bother me, if it helped with the water resistance Im all for it...

 

[thadclay]

When they said courage I laughed at loud. It didn't make sense to say that. I don't get why everyone thinks this is a money grab by Apple. Looks like they needed the space to do stuff internally in the 7. I just wish that they included wireless headphones instead of the lightning ones.