1. awtryau89's Avatar
    I just returned a Note 5 today. It was my last day to return. I was torn. Its a great phone and has some great aspects I really wish Apple would get on board with such as: Wireless charging, smaller bezels and frame, etc. Even so, the battery life is sooooo much better on the 6 Plus. I travel so much that is important. Also I just find the Apple product so much easier to use when traveling with Passbook for boarding passes and the overall interaction of iMessage, Mail and Calendar. Those apps just set it apart. I am a Google services guy. I use Gmail, Google Now and Google Maps exclusively. I really like the way they are integrated into the Android system but even so, the Apple versions are actually more polished than the Android versions. Again, I was torn but I asked myself this question: If I had both phones sitting in front of me and had to choose one, which one would I pick and it was the Apple product. So I returned the Note 5, pre-ordered the 6s Plus and will fall back to my 5 until it arrives in early October.
    09-14-2015 10:25 PM
  2. OTACORB's Avatar
    I just returned a Note 5 today. It was my last day to return. I was torn. Its a great phone and has some great aspects I really wish Apple would get on board with such as: Wireless charging, smaller bezels and frame, etc. Even so, the battery life is sooooo much better on the 6 Plus. I travel so much that is important.
    I honestly think the Note 5 is the better looking between it and the iPhone. However, I concur with what you are saying. Google really needs to refine Android because in some ways its a mess.
    09-14-2015 10:30 PM
  3. swarlos's Avatar
    A big mistake people make with Android is confusing true customization with just making pretty home screens when it means so much more than that. You can do hundreds of things with Android that an iPhone will never do. The capability Android gives 3rd party developers to customize not how you make your homescreen look but how you use your phone on Android OS is the secret sauce. And you don't need instant OS updates to do that. I could make a huge list of these things you can do on an Android device that an iPhone will never be able to do and perhaps someday I will.

    Capability comes at a cost. You're not going to get an Android phone that works quite as smoothly as an iPhone but the question is, for the big gulf in capabilities between the two do you really friggin' care that much? Well therein lies the rub - if all you do is social network and surf and other light casual tasks, well then maybe you do! But if you really want power at your fingertips for much more than that, it's a different story altogether now isn't it. That's what you have to decide for yourself. There are high quality Android phones out there that are extremely well made and optimized. It's those who make wrong purchasing choices for ones that aren't who come away with a bitter taste in their mouths.

    I say this as someone who uses Android as a daily driver but also has family members in house with Apple devices. I know firsthand their iPhones run smoother and more reliably than my phones have year after year. Without question! But my phone runs circles around those for the things I do. Can I use Kodi on an unbroken iPhone? Hell no. File operations? Limitless app interoperability? Apps like Link bubble/Flynx? Torrents? as for automation, Siri is still not only a pale comparison to Google Now integration, even MS's Cortana surpasses it. bear in mind I'm only naming the tip of the iceberg...

    Instant updates on iOS basically give you a tenth (being generous) of the things you can do on Android waiting 4-5 months for a core OS update, and that's thanks to the nature of Android OS and the ability for 3rd party developers to create things with it. Not to mention most of the core capabilities of Android have been moved to Play Services where they can be updated notwithstanding OS version.

    **But who cares about all of that? A very, very small number of people of course! But does that change that this is still the case? Or that I'm not just using my phone to post Instagram photos, surf the web and check my email but as a fully capable pocket computer? Not a chance. Inadequately educated little robot user indeed...
    I remember doing many things when I was on Android that I can't do on my iPhone but honestly I don't mind because like you mentioned it comes at a great cost to have all that functionality.


    The Lannisters send their regards.
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    09-14-2015 11:51 PM
  4. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    "My rooted Android device can run circles around the iPhone...as long as the iPhone isn't jailbroken."

    Cool story bruhhhhhhhhh...*yawn*.
    09-15-2015 12:02 AM
  5. swarlos's Avatar
    "My rooted Android device can run circles around the iPhone...as long as the iPhone isn't jailbroken."

    Cool story bruhhhhhhhhh...*yawn*.
    LOL was waiting for you to chime in.


    The Lannisters send their regards.
    09-15-2015 12:05 AM
  6. Peligro911's Avatar
    "My rooted Android device can run circles around the iPhone...as long as the iPhone isn't jailbroken."

    Cool story bruhhhhhhhhh...*yawn*.
    Bwhahahhaa


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    09-15-2015 12:12 AM
  7. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    LOL was waiting for you to chime in.


    The Lannisters send their regards.
    You know, the truth is...the Android OS is a power house in this regard, even straight out of the box in many ways...I don't deny it at all. I just find it funny that people talk about heavy iPhone limitations by placing a very specific and singular criteria on such opinions...and that is that the iPhone isn't jailbroken.

    Once jailbroken (like a rooted Android device), the iPhone becomes a whole other animal...hell, speaking about Siri alone, the jailbreak tweaks out there are pretty incredible...some really awesome work flow automations that hopefully Apple will implement in a native form one day. If there's something to give google credit for, it is definitely their desire to continually push the ability to have an option to do something natively even if most of their customers never use it in their life. Apple sticks to the simplicity formula, which works for them very well...

    I've just have to roll my eyes when people are so quick to dismiss the iPhone, but only while also leaving aside any abilities it has with a jailbreak. Same ol' song and dance it seems...
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    09-15-2015 12:12 AM
  8. iEd's Avatar
    A big mistake people make with Android is confusing true customization with just making pretty home screens when it means so much more than that. You can do hundreds of things with Android that an iPhone will never do. The capability Android gives 3rd party developers to customize not how you make your homescreen look but how you use your phone on Android OS is the secret sauce. And you don't need instant OS updates to do that. I could make a huge list of these things you can do on an Android device that an iPhone will never be able to do and perhaps someday I will.

    Capability comes at a cost. You're not going to get an Android phone that works quite as smoothly as an iPhone but the question is, for the big gulf in capabilities between the two do you really friggin' care that much? Well therein lies the rub - if all you do is social network and surf and other light casual tasks, well then maybe you do! But if you really want power at your fingertips for much more than that, it's a different story altogether now isn't it. That's what you have to decide for yourself. There are high quality Android phones out there that are extremely well made and optimized. It's those who make wrong purchasing choices for ones that aren't who come away with a bitter taste in their mouths.

    I say this as someone who uses Android as a daily driver but also has family members in house with Apple devices. I know firsthand their iPhones run smoother and more reliably than my phones have year after year. Without question! But my phone runs circles around those for the things I do. Can I use Kodi on an unbroken iPhone? Hell no. File operations? Limitless app interoperability? Apps like Link bubble/Flynx? Torrents? as for automation, Siri is still not only a pale comparison to Google Now integration, even MS's Cortana surpasses it. bear in mind I'm only naming the tip of the iceberg...

    Instant updates on iOS basically give you a tenth (being generous) of the things you can do on Android waiting 4-5 months for a core OS update, and that's thanks to the nature of Android OS and the ability for 3rd party developers to create things with it. Not to mention most of the core capabilities of Android have been moved to Play Services where they can be updated notwithstanding OS version.

    **But who cares about all of that? A very, very small number of people of course! But does that change that this is still the case? Or that I'm not just using my phone to post Instagram photos, surf the web and check my email but as a fully capable pocket computer? Not a chance. Inadequately educated little robot user indeed...
    Don't Stop Believing.... Hold on to that feeelin e ya a a.


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    09-15-2015 12:15 AM
  9. jdhooghe's Avatar
    So someone comes in and is respectful and courteous, discusses their opinion and he gets trash talked. Right. There goes this adult conversation.

    Sent from my smexy T-Mobile Note 5
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    09-15-2015 07:58 AM
  10. yonghong's Avatar
    For the time being, yes. I just can't decide if I should keep the Watch for when I get the iPhone 7 or if I should sell it now and buy a second-gen then.
    Sell it.
    09-15-2015 08:16 AM
  11. dchandler's Avatar
    I'm using my 6 plus now and waiting for my 6s plus, I have had my share of android phone but with all the manufacturers coming out with a new and exciting android every couple of months is just ridiculous. Just when you think you have the next best thing someone else comes out with a new device that better than your current. The battery life sucks for me and I'm not going to even talk about force closes. Apple has my hart and soul lol. This is just my opinion. But good luck to you


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    09-15-2015 10:03 AM
  12. dstrauss's Avatar
    I am using a 6 Plus now, and just pre-ordered a 6s Plus on my AT&T Next 12 account. I've had iPhone's since day one in 2007, but always skipped the "s" models until this year, almost exclusively because of the improved camera. Along the way, I have owned and returned the Note 2, 3, and 4. The Note 5 is a dazzling improvement in design and function (the S-Pen is awesome as a Surface Pro 3 OneNote user - don't gag folks). The bottom line is the Note(s) always get returned or handed down to my Android relatives.

    Now the "whys":

    1. Android vs iOS is EXACTLY like Windows 95 vs OS whatever in its day - you could do batch files, scripts, and command line functions until you were blue in the face and shame the Mac into submission, at a ratio of 5 hours for every 2 on the Mac

    2. iTunes/Apple Music - I am intractably stuck (and love it)

    3. Apps - hundreds I'd have to replace, and most Android versions are shadows of the iOS version

    4. It truly does "just work"

    5. Apple Watch - a perfect pairing.

    6. Better battery life (especially since no longer removable).

    7. More storage (GN5 tops out at 64gb with no microSD card anymore)

    Now the naysayers/skeptics out there will point to the fact that it is as much the Apple "walled garden" as anything else that is holding me captive, and to an degree (50%) you are right. But my phone is my primary camera and iOS has just excelled regardless of pixels (but I look forward to more Android-like tight crops now; thanks for pushing Apple into 21st century). Office for iOS works great for viewing docs and attachments. Maybe it is a bit of form over function, but that's also what makes it compelling if you are tired of HAVING to program your device yourself.
    09-15-2015 12:07 PM
  13. iEd's Avatar
    You needn't get so upset, it's only a phone and nobody's stopping you from using the ignore feature
    I haven't switched yet but I'm at about 95% towards switching to an iPhone after many years of android. I'm just tired of the issues. The number of them keeps growing year after year and the biggest ones have never been resolved in all the years I've stayed. The long updates have never been resolved. The quality of Google's coding of the OS doesn't steadily improve. Rather, each new version launches with a host of problems that take nearly a year of incremental patches to fix and then a new version comes out with more issues, rinse and repeat. If you're on a carrier phone, that becomes more like 18 months in total. Another way of looking at that is it's 3/4 of your contract.

    I recently discovered that Samsung has placed two of the worst possible apps as bloat ware on the S6 too. Clean Master and McAfee AV.



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    09-15-2015 05:18 PM
  14. swarlos's Avatar
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    Whatever you're typing isn't showing up! Same thing happened with your last post.


    The Lannisters send their regards.
    09-15-2015 05:19 PM
  15. iEd's Avatar
    Thank you very much for making the effort to show that I can be equally critical of Android and supportive of Apple. However tech changes extremely rapidly and some new arrivals along with core OS changes means my earlier opinions are now outdated. Thank you again nonetheless, one Like for you
    Laughing Out Loud.


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    09-15-2015 05:43 PM
  16. MKA1983's Avatar
    I have to say that I have gotten bored with iphone over the years and I have tried to switch. Each time I've switched I haven't been able to last more than 24 hours. Just recently I switched to the edge plus. It's a beautiful design but I just can't get around the amazingly easy interface that the iPhone and iOS provides. I have not realized that I'll never be able to use another device as my main device. I'm also totally integrated into the ecosystem because I have an iPad, iPhone, iMac, MacBook Pro and an Apple TV. I'm enmeshed. If I could afford it and justify it, perhaps I would use a Samsung as a secondary line. I'm apple for life.
    09-18-2015 09:18 PM
  17. abarzua21's Avatar
    I am. I love apple, but I'm an android fan, mainly because of the extra storage. Every year I buy my note phones, being a college student the pen is handy. This year I bought my Note 5 I do love it, but I'm switching back to apple. Android has taken away removal battery, SD card, & now u can't even use the device for a remote. So I pre-ordered my 6S plus

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    09-20-2015 08:14 AM
  18. doctordwaynewilliams's Avatar
    This may be the first time that I don't buy the newest Note smartphone. Every time I have switched to Android in the last three years I have felt regret and not because the phone wasn't as good as my iPhone. In some instances the Note and other Android devices like the Nexus were better. But none of them were, are, or will be better than my iPad in my opinion. And that has always been the case. So I am ok with whatever iPhone that comes out because I know that it will be the perfect companion to my beloved iPad. So I'm not switching anymore as long as the iPad remains awesome.


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    09-20-2015 08:42 AM
  19. 21stNow's Avatar
    Actually I've done the Note 3 and then Note 4. I've been dissatisfied with both of them, they are great when you first get them, but they get slower with use. You'll eventually have to start clearing the partition cache and/or app cache on a regular basis to keep them running even halfway smooth without lagging. The Camera on the Note 4 is good in terms of taking pictures, slow to focus at times and very slow to actually launch and it was twice as fast as the Note 3. Also God forbid you want to look at a photo you just took while in the camera app it can take up to 30 seconds for it to show up and while that is going on your phone is frozen in time. If you stream music to like your car's head unit, be prepared for skipping and stuttering bluetooth audio, unless you want to keep your display on all the time, then it won't skip as much. I could go on and on.... By the way I am not alone in any of this all one has to do is look at Google's support web site and you'll find thread after thread after thread of users like myself with these issues.

    So, YEAH I am swapping Phablets... I am going from a Note 4 to an iPhone 6S Plus!
    I won't question your experience, and won't say that it hasn't happened to other people. However, I have had the Note 4 for almost a year and the only thing that I experienced on your list is slow focusing, which a tap on the screen resolves for me. Reviewing a picture has never taken anywhere near 30 seconds for me.

    I've heard of this Bluetooth skipping; does it only occur in cars? I sync to a Bluetooth speaker at home and have never heard this skipping that people refer to.
    09-21-2015 01:56 PM
  20. areyes163's Avatar
    I normally always buy the new Note phone to try and test out. But this year I am taking a pass. While I am sure the Note 5 is a fantastic phone for a lot of people I do not think I will enjoy it. When I tested the phone at Best Buy I was not impressed by it at all. I am not saying the iPhone is the cats meow best device ever but for what I need the iPhone for now suits me better.
    09-21-2015 04:03 PM
  21. doctordwaynewilliams's Avatar
    I normally always buy the new Note phone to try and test out. But this year I am taking a pass. While I am sure the Note 5 is a fantastic phone for a lot of people I do not think I will enjoy it. When I tested the phone at Best Buy I was not impressed by it at all. I am not saying the iPhone is the cats meow best device ever but for what I need the iPhone for now suits me better.
    You should try it.
    10-10-2015 06:12 PM
  22. areyes163's Avatar
    You should try it.
    Actually I did. I just traded my iPhone in for the note 5. How very wrong in was. This note is very impressive now that I have used it on my own instead of playing with it at best buy.

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    10-10-2015 06:13 PM
  23. doctordwaynewilliams's Avatar
    Actually I did. I just traded my iPhone in for the note 5. How very wrong in was. This note is very impressive now that I have used it on my own instead of playing with it at best buy.

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    Amazing how that happens.
    10-10-2015 06:29 PM
  24. iAstonish01's Avatar
    First, a little background...

    Last year, on launch day, I bought an iPhone 6. I'd planned on buying the 6 Plus but decided against it last minute because I thought it was too big. The 6 was a great phone and I loved it but 9 months later, I bought a Galaxy 6 Edge just to try for 14 days because it was just so beautiful and interesting. Well, it lasted an hour before I switched back and wanted to throw it in the garbage but because I paid full retail in cash, the store didn't have enough cash to give me back the full sum of what I paid and though the manager extended my return period indefinitely, I waited and waited and they just never had enough cash so I just decided to snag a 6 Plus instead for two reasons; I already knew I'd be happy with it (aside from the size, which was a wildcard) as I've loved all my iPhones and I also wanted to try out the size prior to the 6S launch because I knew it would be impossible to exchange a 6S Plus for a 6S or vice versa within the 14 days because as we all know, brand-new iPhones sell out for weeks, sometimes months at launch. So I loved the 6 Plus and the size was actually pretty great. I have huge hands so I was never worried about handling it but the pocket situation wasn't nearly as bad as I anticipated, so I was ready and anxious to get my hands on the 6S Plus, that is, until I played with the Note 5 while in Best Buy. I've always wanted to try a Note but since they're always released a month or so after the iPhone, I've never bought one because I'd always just bought the new iPhone. This year, however, Samsung bumped up release to a month prior, and while I thought it seemed nice enough after it was announced, it wasn't until I used it in person that I was blown away by it. The quality is near Apple territory (and it should be since they shamelessly ripped off the iPhone 6 Plus design) and the new, refined version of Touch-Wiz is actually quite nice. The S-Pen is so handy and I constantly use it, but I'm also constantly double-checking myself to make sure I'm not inserting it backwards (Google it if you don't get the reference), which, by the way, if it were an Apple phone with that issue, it'd be on the front page of every paper in the world illustrating just how big of a failure Apple has become - but that's a story in itself. All in all, after the keynote today, I will not be returning the Note. When I bought it, I never expected to keep it, just give it a try since I'd never tried one before. However, it has knocked my expectations out of this world. The only two big drawbacks are the lack of native iTunes syncing because every last bit of my media is in iTunes and the second, possibly bigger drawback, is that the $700+ Watch that I just got on April 24th at 9:05am is now useless. I bought a Moto 360 to go with my Note, but it's not the same. The Apple Watch is worlds ahead of Android Wear, and that gap will only widen with the release of Watch OS 2.

    So, I was just curious if anyone else is going to opt for something else this time around? While the 6 Plus and 6S Plus are phablets by nature, they don't seem to take advantage of the screen size the way the Note line does. If there's one phone that I see more people on this forum with that's used in tandem with an iPhone, it's the Note. I always thought it was probably a good phone, but now I know that it's really something special. It just makes me wish that Apple would port over some of the iPad features to the Plus line to really take advantage of the hardware. It didn't feel like as much of a missed opportunity until I got something that truly takes advantage of the larger screen, but now it's hard to oversee. The Note isn't the only other good phone or phablet out there, though, there are also great products from Moto, HTC, other Samsung phones like the Edge Plus), etc.

    So, anyway, those are my thoughts and experiences. I'd like to hear from anyone else who's thinking of trying something else or from someone who has tried something else and ended up going back. I should also probably note that if I'd been using Touch Wiz instead of iOS for the past year (9 months of which was a single phone, which is the longest I've ever used a phone without switching), then this story would be reserved. My thoughts about the particulars of the OS's would remain, but I wouldn't be able to use Touch Wiz for that long either without a change. So it isn't that Apple really did anything horrible to lose me, I just needed a changed and noted a few things along the way.
    Haha how did the note rip off the 6 plus? Sorry but I couldn't read past that. If anything Apple adapted late to the phablet game


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    10-14-2015 05:31 AM
  25. JakePleasants's Avatar
    Haha how did the note rip off the 6 plus? Sorry but I couldn't read past that. If anything Apple adapted late to the phablet game


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    These things really struck me:

    1) Unibody with antenna lines.

    2) No more SD cards.

    3) The shape of the device.

    Besides the home button and camera location, these devices could easily be mistaken for the other.

    Sure Apple copied by going into the phablet world. Oh well.

    I'm still mad at Samsung though. I was really looking forward to the Note 5. With a removable battery and SD card. I'd have even been okay with just an SD card... But no. They just had to market to the Apple crowd...

    \(•_•)/
    Septembersrain is right, but also look at both phones from the bottom. They look almost exactly the same.
    10-14-2015 04:21 PM
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