1. rewNATION's Avatar
    I'm having a problem getting 4g. I either get lte or 3G. I've never even seen 4g show up since I've had the phone. I know I'm in an area where there is 4g service. When I disable lte it always just switches to 3G instead of 4g. I'm on Verizon btw.
    12-11-2014 11:23 AM
  2. SwitchBeach's Avatar
    You won't see "4G" on a Verizon iPhone (if that's what you are looking to see on the display).

    You will see "LTE" or "3G" or "1x".

    And obviously, if you disable LTE, the "best" you will see is "3G".
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    12-11-2014 11:26 AM
  3. rewNATION's Avatar
    You won't see "4G" on a Verizon iPhone (if that's what you are looking to see on the display).

    You will see "LTE" or "3G" or "1x".

    And obviously, if you disable LTE, the "best" you will see is "3G".
    So the iPhone 6 isn't really a 4G phone then? Why did I buy this if all I can get is 3G or slow lte? And why does Verizon advertise that they are 4g when they really aren't. All my friends with android phones show 4g on Verizon. I must not be understanding something here.
    12-11-2014 11:31 AM
  4. SwitchBeach's Avatar
    LTE is Verizon's 4G.

    You friends are connecting to the same thing that you are. It just is displayed differently on the phone.

    But it's the SAME thing.
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    12-11-2014 11:33 AM
  5. rewNATION's Avatar
    LTE is Verizon's 4G.

    You friends are connecting to the same thing that you are. It just is displayed differently on the phone.

    But it's the SAME thing.
    I'm sorry, I'm still not understanding. So even though if I'm in a 4g area and I turn off lte, all I can use is 3G and not 4g? Basically in order to get 4g I have to have lte enabled? And why does 3G seem faster once I disable lte? Sorry again
    12-11-2014 11:42 AM
  6. SwitchBeach's Avatar
    On Verizon, LTE IS 4G. LTE and 4G are the same. 4G is LTE on Verizon.

    If you turn LTE off, you will not get 4G on a Verizon iPhone. LTE is 4G. If you turn off LTE, you will get 3G. Or 1x.

    3G is not 4G. 3G is not LTE.

    No idea why "3G seem faster".
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    12-11-2014 11:47 AM
  7. kch50428's Avatar
    I'm sorry, I'm still not understanding. So even though if I'm in a 4g area and I turn off lte, all I can use is 3G and not 4g? Basically in order to get 4g I have to have lte enabled? And why does 3G seem faster once I disable lte? Sorry again
    If you turn off LTE, you're turning off 4G as they are the same thing... yes, to get 4G, you have to have LTE turned on... the performance differences are going to be varied due to cell towers... some may be very saturated with users on 4G, slowing performance... thus sometimes you could see better 3G performance than 4G/LTE.
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    12-11-2014 11:47 AM
  8. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    Mine just says "Verizon" now on wifi. I don't recall when that began. It used to say LTE. With LTE off, it says Verizon 3G.
    No 4G service-imageuploadedbytapatalk1418322433.579417.jpg




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    12-11-2014 01:22 PM
  9. SwitchBeach's Avatar
    Mine just says "Verizon" now. I don't recall when that began. It used to say LTE. And 3G with LTE off. Now it's just Verizon either way.
    You appear to be connected to WiFi which is why you do not see LTE.
    12-11-2014 01:28 PM
  10. acadia11's Avatar
    If you turn off LTE, you're turning off 4G as they are the same thing... yes, to get 4G, you have to have LTE turned on... the performance differences are going to be varied due to cell towers... some may be very saturated with users on 4G, slowing performance... thus sometimes you could see better 3G performance than 4G/LTE.
    Technically speaking 4g and lte are not the same thing. Just saying.
    12-11-2014 04:07 PM
  11. SwitchBeach's Avatar
    Technically speaking 4g and lte are not the same thing. Just saying.
    Technically speaking, on Verizon they are. That's what Verizon calls it (whether it meets the "technical specification" of "4G" or not).

    The OP is getting the best he can get on Verizon. He's not "missing" something that his friends on Android devices are getting.

    It is merely a cosmetic difference that some of the phones display 4G and some display LTE. The service that they are connecting to is the SAME THING.



    Just sayin' .....
    12-11-2014 04:17 PM
  12. acadia11's Avatar
    Technically speaking, on Verizon they are. That's what Verizon calls it (whether it meets the "technical specification" of "4G" or not).

    The OP is getting the best he can get on Verizon. He's not "missing" something that his friends on Android devices are getting.

    It is merely a cosmetic difference that some of the phones display 4G and some display LTE. The service that they are connecting to is the SAME THING.



    Just sayin' .....
    Agreed
    12-11-2014 05:00 PM
  13. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    You appear to be connected to WiFi which is why you do not see LTE.
    It does. I just don't recall when it started saying Verizon. I may just be losing my memory.


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    12-11-2014 07:54 PM
  14. Flow39's Avatar
    For me on T-Mobile, I get LTE, 4G, 3G, and Edge (2G) . Maybe it's a carrier specific thing.
    12-11-2014 08:54 PM
  15. sting7k's Avatar
    So the iPhone 6 isn't really a 4G phone then? Why did I buy this if all I can get is 3G or slow lte? And why does Verizon advertise that they are 4g when they really aren't. All my friends with android phones show 4g on Verizon. I must not be understanding something here.
    You have been brain washed by ad men; "4G" is a marketing term.

    Verizon's networks;
    2G - 1x
    3G - CDMA/EVDO
    4G - LTE

    Tmobile/AT&T Networks;
    2.5G - EDGE
    3G - HSPA
    4G - HSPA+
    LTE - LTE

    The term "4G" is thrown around by Tmobile and AT&T because at the time Verizon was deploying LTE which is a true fourth generation network while Tmobile and AT&T had HSPA+ networks which were significantly faster than 3G but not technically a true fourth generation network like LTE. They simply just started calling what was really a more advanced 3G technology "4G" so their commercials would sound just as flashy as Verizon's commercials.

    Your Verizon iPhone 6 is getting true fourth generation LTE service. When you see "4G" on a Tmobile/AT&T iPhone it's just a marketing gimmick.
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    12-11-2014 09:04 PM
  16. acadia11's Avatar
    You have been brain washed by ad men; "4G" is a marketing term.

    Verizon's networks;
    2G - 1x
    3G - CDMA/EVDO
    4G - LTE

    Tmobile/AT&T Networks;
    2.5G - EDGE
    3G - HSPA
    4G - HSPA+
    LTE - LTE

    The term "4G" is thrown around by Tmobile and AT&T because at the time Verizon was deploying LTE which is a true fourth generation network while Tmobile and AT&T had HSPA+ networks which were significantly faster than 3G but not technically a true fourth generation network like LTE. They simply just started calling what was really a more advanced 3G technology "4G" so their commercials would sound just as flashy as Verizon's commercials.

    Your Verizon iPhone 6 is getting true fourth generation LTE service. When you see "4G" on a Tmobile/AT&T iPhone it's just a marketing gimmick.
    None of these networks including Verizon's lte are true 4g.

    LTE-A defined in 2012 is the only by specification 4g network. And I don't know any carrier in US who has deployed an LTE-A network.

    Actually I just looked as if March 2014, AT&T is the only US carrier to deploy LTE-A, which was done in Chicago area , I don't know if they have coverage in other areas yet.

    http://www.androidauthority.com/4g-vs-lte-274882/

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_Advanced
    Last edited by acadia11; 12-11-2014 at 09:27 PM.
    12-11-2014 09:15 PM
  17. Scatabrain's Avatar
    None of these networks including Verizon's lte are true 4g.

    LTE-A defined in 2012 is the only by specification 4g network. And I don't know any carrier in US who has deployed an LTE-A network.

    Actually I just looked as if March 2014, AT&T is the only US carrier to deploy LTE-A, which was done in Chicago area , I don't know if they have coverage in other areas yet.
    The facts don't keep them from selling it.





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    12-11-2014 09:19 PM
  18. acadia11's Avatar
    The facts don't keep them from selling it.

    http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...5b39d0a756.jpg



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    Yes , they are allowed to call , hspa+ , lte, and WiMAX , 4g although none meet the 4g spec.
    12-11-2014 09:30 PM
  19. kazp3r17's Avatar
    I'm sorry, I'm still not understanding. So even though if I'm in a 4g area and I turn off lte, all I can use is 3G and not 4g? Basically in order to get 4g I have to have lte enabled? And why does 3G seem faster once I disable lte? Sorry again
    I was with Verizon for a week last week and due to low LTE area I was getting speeds of 1-2 mbps down which is probably what your experiencing is a bad area, but if I drove 30 min up the road I was getting speeds up to 45mbps.


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    12-12-2014 12:55 AM
  20. the_tech_eater's Avatar
    This YouTuber from England posted a pic on Instagram of how 4G speeds should be:


    Sent from my iPhone 6 using Tapatalk
    12-12-2014 09:11 AM

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