1. MarkY3130's Avatar
    I'm not loving the design either. However, I still want one, and once I put a case on it the ugliness gets hidden. Looking forward to getting a 6. (Not 6+ though)
    10-25-2014 11:52 PM
  2. Septembersrain's Avatar
    I'm returning mine. Dilemma solved. It's just not the device for me. At all.
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    10-25-2014 11:56 PM
  3. HankAZ's Avatar
    I have since this thinness craze took hold earlier this year, have thought thinness was a ploy, because no one can actually give really answers as to WHY it needs to be thin. Because we you make things thin you have to either make it taller and wider or sacrifice some stuff. More often than not thinness leads to smaller batteries and worse battery life. Not saying the 6 has bad battery life, but it could have been even better if it was a bit thicker.
    First of all, you framed this discussion as an opinion. As such, no one can say that your opinion is right or wrong - it is what it is - your opinion. I don’t happen to agree with you, but that is my opinion. And as opinions go, everyone is entitled to their own, and no opinion is more correct or more incorrect than another.

    I just wanted to point out that your statement that "since this thinness craze took hold earlier this year" is factually incorrect. Apple and other manufacturers have been obsessed with thinness for years. Each year and each new device is thinner than the previous model. It’s not a "ploy", it’s Apple's opinion. Again, they are entitled to it. And while there may be technical reasons why it’s good or bad to be so thin, but Apple is free to design and manufacture devices as they see fit.

    All design forces compromise. Thinner, larger screens, battery life and aesthetics all factor into the design. As consumers, we must decide if the trade offs made my Apple or any other manufacturer result in a better device. So far, Apple has continued to impress, at least for me.
    Last edited by HankAZ; 10-26-2014 at 12:16 AM.
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    10-26-2014 12:04 AM
  4. HankAZ's Avatar
    I like the thinner feel of the iPhone 6. That being said Apple in an effort to be the "thinest" has sacrificed a bit of the durability of the phone. I don't carry my iPhone in my pockets I use a holster. I always have for all of my cell phones since after my 1st cell phone, a Motorola Bag phone. With this aid the new iPad Air 2 is only 1.4 mm thinner than the iPad Air. Who in this world is going to feel the difference?

    The thinness of the iPhone 6 is nice BUT it is ONLY 0.7 mm thinner that the iPhone 5S. Again can anyone really feel the difference?

    Being the "thinest" to me is just a marketing game/ploy. Just another thing to brag about. BUT now Apple has a cell phone that can bend if kept in a pocket for any length of time. Now Apple has an iPad that can be bent. I think these facts are worse for Apple and that any advantage of being the "thinest" is negated.
    The whole "bendgate" has been grossly over reported and exaggerated. I’ve had my 6 Plus since launch day, I carry it in my pocket, and mine shows no sign of bending. That may be anecdotal to you, but it’s relevant and factual to me.
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    10-26-2014 12:07 AM
  5. nj1266's Avatar
    I'm not loving the design either. However, I still want one, and once I put a case on it the ugliness gets hidden. Looking forward to getting a 6. (Not 6+ though)
    I have a transparent case on mine as well as two other cases. One is a fantastic tpu case from Diztronic and the other is a caseology slim dual.

    I do not line the transparent case because the phone is not that good looking. I love the way the glass tapers into the metal, though.

    I am using the caseology more and more, because it protects more and gives the iPhone a slight heft that I think it needs.
    10-26-2014 12:10 AM
  6. Speedygi's Avatar
    I'm returning mine. Dilemma solved. It's just not the device for me. At all.
    You are going to keep using the 5C?
    10-26-2014 12:28 AM
  7. TheRewardisCheese's Avatar
    I do not like the aesthetics of the antenna breaks but it's DEFINITELY very well crafted quality-wise.

    I am picky about the aesthetics of my phones but I can always put a case on 'em, which I usually do anyways so the back of the 6 really doesn't bother me THAT much. I also do not spend large amounts of time looking at the back of my phone.

    With that said, I love the overall design of my 6.
    10-26-2014 01:32 AM
  8. HAWK's Avatar
    Am I the only one who thinks my 6 is amazing? ... man I love this phone
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    10-26-2014 01:53 AM
  9. jdhooghe's Avatar
    Personally, I have no issues with the antenna lines on the iPhone 5 nor the HTC One when I had it. I also think Apple should continue to use their home button and not ditch it for capacitive buttons like most Android phone all in the hope for "thinner bezels." If the trade-off for Touch-ID is bigger bezels them I am all for it but that is just me. I hear these suggestions that Apple should do all of these things and in the end, what you get, is an Android device. I don't think a half a centimeter on the top is cause for issue. I also don't see how the push for thinner and light devices hasn't been going on since the invention of the cell phone. However I can respect that for some the iPhone might be too light and feel too thin after all, every time I pick up most Android devices, especially Samsung devices, it feels cheap and the plastic ruins it for me; that's why I wanted to badly for the HTC One to be my android pick but ultimately it failed in other areas. This is why I am glad there are multiple companies for everyone's preferences
    10-26-2014 01:57 AM
  10. calebt's Avatar
    I agree some what with what you say, I don’t like the antennas line, I wish the phone was a little thicker so the protruding camera was a eliminated also a bigger battery could have been used.

    For me the good out weighs the bad.
    10-26-2014 06:24 AM
  11. nr2d's Avatar
    The whole "bendgate" has been grossly over reported and exaggerated. I’ve had my 6 Plus since launch day, I carry it in my pocket, and mine shows no sign of bending. That may be anecdotal to you, but it’s relevant and factual to me.
    It is a fact that a few of the iPhone 6+s bend. You may not have your 6+ bend but there are others who have. This is a fact. Even with just a couple of 6+s that have bent it still made the news and industry publications. Again as I stated the thing about how thin a iPhone and iPad is is purely a marketing gimmick, nothing more. BUT the fact that it is publicized is a problem for Apple. There are some potential buyers out there that will use this and other minor flaws to make their decision not to buy the iPhone solely on those few flaws.

    I don't think that the flaws that have been publicized will sway too many from buying and iPhone but but it is certainly a "small" black mark on Apples reputation.
    10-26-2014 09:18 AM
  12. Septembersrain's Avatar
    You are going to keep using the 5C?
    Yeah, overall the 5s and 6 just don't feel right or look as inviting. I just can't seem to enjoy those devices. Guess I'll have to wait it out and see.
    10-26-2014 10:16 AM
  13. cardfan's Avatar
    In a case all phones look alike. I care about the screen. The back could be painted purple with pink stripes and I wouldn't care.

    In less than 2 years we're on to something else. You can bet Apple realizes the importance of the world's most valuable product and will continue to improve iPhone design.
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    10-26-2014 10:36 AM
  14. A895's Avatar
    If I was shopping for an Android phone, then I will get the Sony Z3 Compact. From what I read it is a great phone. It has a large battery, a 4.6 720p display, and a good camera, an all glass design a la iPhone 4/4s.

    The problem is how do you get the carriers to allow you to use it on your network? Does it even work effectively on their network? I have read a lot of threads with so say it does and some having a hard time getting it to work. You do not want to pay $530 on a phone only to have problems using it on our admittedly crappy networks.
    I won't be getting it because as i said, I am on Verizon. The main reason I was looking at getting an iPhone was for updates. I can still see myself getting an iPhone 5S still to use for a year.
    10-26-2014 10:39 AM
  15. reeneebob's Avatar
    It is a fact that a few of the iPhone 6+s bend. You may not have your 6+ bend but there are others who have. This is a fact. Even with just a couple of 6+s that have bent it still made the news and industry publications. Again as I stated the thing about how thin a iPhone and iPad is is purely a marketing gimmick, nothing more. BUT the fact that it is publicized is a problem for Apple. There are some potential buyers out there that will use this and other minor flaws to make their decision not to buy the iPhone solely on those few flaws.

    I don't think that the flaws that have been publicized will sway too many from buying and iPhone but but it is certainly a "small" black mark on Apples reputation.
    Several 5 and 5S's bent...yet you seem to have no issue with that phone.
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    10-26-2014 12:00 PM
  16. HankAZ's Avatar
    It is a fact that a few of the iPhone 6+s bend. You may not have your 6+ bend but there are others who have. This is a fact. Even with just a couple of 6+s that have bent it still made the news and industry publications. Again as I stated the thing about how thin a iPhone and iPad is is purely a marketing gimmick, nothing more. BUT the fact that it is publicized is a problem for Apple. There are some potential buyers out there that will use this and other minor flaws to make their decision not to buy the iPhone solely on those few flaws.

    I don't think that the flaws that have been publicized will sway too many from buying and iPhone but but it is certainly a "small" black mark on Apples reputation.
    Most phones can be bent if you try hard enough. There is plenty of evidence that the majority of the bent phones are damaged intentionally. Does that mean that all of the cases are intentional? Absolutely not. But most of the youtube stuff is. Other brands of phones also bend, but let Apple's bend and it’s the end of the world. Why is that? Could it be because it’s Apple, and those who bend/report the bent devices are gunning for Apple? IMHO, that is most definitely a factor.

    As I said, the only phone that matters is mine. It’s an iPhone 6 Plus. I carry it in my pocket. And it is not bent. End of story, as far as I am concerned.
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    10-26-2014 12:15 PM
  17. nr2d's Avatar
    Several 5 and 5S's bent...yet you seem to have no issue with that phone.
    I did not see any reports on this forum or in any print review of the iP 5 and 5S bending. Maybe I missed them but I had both with no problems. I have yet to have any problems with my iP6 but again that's not saying someone else does not have problems or had problems with the iP 5, 5S or 6. In fact The only problem I have had since my first iPhone, a 3G, was with the 5S and the Touch ID when it first came out. But when Apple released IOS 7.x, I forget what rev it was, the Touch ID problem went away. And when I was having problems with the 5S and the Touch ID I started to get disenchanted with Apple.

    The only problem I have with Apple and the iP6 right now is trying to find a good one for my wife but I have ranted about that in a different thread here.
    10-26-2014 12:25 PM
  18. HankAZ's Avatar
    I did not see any reports on this forum or in any print review of the iP 5 and 5S bending. Maybe I missed them but I had both with no problems. I have yet to have any problems with my iP6 but again that's not saying someone else does not have problems or had problems with the iP 5, 5S or 6. In fact The only problem I have had since my first iPhone, a 3G, was with the 5S and the Touch ID when it first came out. But when Apple released IOS 7.x, I forget what rev it was, the Touch ID problem went away. And when I was having problems with the 5S and the Touch ID I started to get disenchanted with Apple.

    The only problem I have with Apple and the iP6 right now is trying to find a good one for my wife but I have ranted about that in a different thread here.
    iPhone 5s Bending In People's Pockets | Cult of Mac
    Is the iPhone 5 prone to bending? | Ubergizmo
    Apple iPhone 5 users complain of soft, bendy frame
    iPhone 5s Bends Just Like the iPhone 5, Early Adopters Report | TechnoBuffalo

    and many more. Again, any phone can be bent if you try hard enough.
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    10-26-2014 12:41 PM
  19. natasftw's Avatar
    [*]The iPhone 6 is too thin, I picked it up and I thought immediately how thin and light it was, and then I thought "Oh god, it is so thin and light!". I felt like I was going to break it. Apple could have really benefitted from making it a bit more thicker so it wouldn't feel like it would fly in the wind if the breeze was too heavy.
    I honestly stopped reading here. You wanted us to not label you as a troll based on effort. I'm not suggesting you're a lazy troll. But, you're certainly a troll.

    You essentially said "Apple would have seen benefit by adding excess materials that provided zero functionality so that I could trust myself not to be a child and break my new toy." That's not a worthwhile complaint. If you think it needs to be more bulky, buy a case. That's not an error in design. It's an error in the user.
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    10-26-2014 05:11 PM
  20. Septembersrain's Avatar
    I honestly stopped reading here. You wanted us to not label you as a troll based on effort. I'm not suggesting you're a lazy troll. But, you're certainly a troll.

    You essentially said "Apple would have seen benefit by adding excess materials that provided zero functionality so that I could trust myself not to be a child and break my new toy." That's not a worthwhile complaint. If you think it needs to be more bulky, buy a case. That's not an error in design. It's an error in the user.
    I still think this is a bit unfair, I too see the benefit in a slightly more sturdy and bulkier frame. It can help keep temperatures cooler by allowing more room for heat dissipation. Larger capacity battery. More room for frame reinforcement and corner stabilization. No external camera bulge. Possibly even a great antenna or signal boosting internal band.

    I don't know, I guess I just see things differently. Aesthetics are important to me, yes. Though I weigh the benefit of design versus practicality. I know everyone has their own feelings on this. I don't think anyone is wrong here.
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    10-26-2014 08:42 PM
  21. A895's Avatar
    I honestly stopped reading here. You wanted us to not label you as a troll based on effort. I'm not suggesting you're a lazy troll. But, you're certainly a troll.

    You essentially said "Apple would have seen benefit by adding excess materials that provided zero functionality so that I could trust myself not to be a child and break my new toy." That's not a worthwhile complaint. If you think it needs to be more bulky, buy a case. That's not an error in design. It's an error in the user.
    This is why it I called it an OPINION not fact. You took the time to label me a troll because I don't like the design of a PHONE. Think about that for a second.

    And I said what I meant. These devices are smart phones, things we use each and every day, day in and day out. I don't honestly think the iPhone 6 is built to be an actual tool more like a device you think is pretty to look at, again this is MY OPINION. Not yours. I don't care if you read what I have to say or not, you are reading and responding on your own time and prerogative.

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    10-26-2014 09:03 PM
  22. Larry Marranzino's Avatar
    Good write up. My first attraction was the design. Could Apple of done better but hey pretty good. I am also coming from note 3, never had an iphone prior.
    I have the 6 part of wishing I had gone with the plus (next time).
    Have to admit using the griffin case and Zagg HDX protector. I keep reading about scratches.
    With that I have a hard time keeping the thing out of my hand.
    10-26-2014 10:30 PM
  23. Not Quite Right's Avatar
    Well this is how I see it.
    People can not give Apple their money fast enough for the iPhone 6 & 6+. Record setting sales if I'm not mistaken, with no signs of letting up through the holiday seasons as well. One would think this type of performance indicates that the iPhone 6 hardware design is actually quite good, and Jony Ive & company are high-fiving & belly-bumping all the way to the bank!
    It always makes me smile when someone who never designed anything in their lives, voices their opinion on how poorly of a job a designer such as Ive has done, on a product that's totally crushing it ...
    Last edited by Not Quite Right; 10-27-2014 at 11:36 AM.
    10-27-2014 11:06 AM
  24. A895's Avatar
    Well this is how I see it.
    People can not give Apple their money fast enough for the iPhone 6 & 6+. Record setting sales if I'm not mistaken, with no signs of letting up through the holiday seasons as well. One would think this type of performance indicates that the iPhone 6 hardware design is actually quite good, and Jony Ive & company are high-fiving & belly-bumping all the way to the bank!
    It always makes me smile when someone who never designed anything in their lives, voices their opinion on how poorly of a job a designer such as Ive has done, on a product that's totally crushing it ...
    I am not going to assume like you obviously are, what drives iPhone sales, I am specifically talking about myself and my personal thoughts. Yet people like you feel the need to try you hardest to make my own OPINION seem bad when it is just that, an opinion.

    It like you can't give criticism on the internet anymore. I gave my reason, whether you agree with them or not is up to you, that is then your issue, not mine.

    Posted via the iMore App for Android
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    10-27-2014 11:48 AM
  25. Not Quite Right's Avatar
    I am not going to assume like you obviously are, what drives iPhone sales, I am specifically talking about myself and my personal thoughts. Yet people like you feel the need to try you hardest to make my own OPINION seem bad when it is just that, an opinion.

    It like you can't give criticism on the internet anymore. I gave my reason, whether you agree with them or not is up to you, that is then your issue, not mine.

    Posted via the iMore App for Android
    Now see that's just it, it's a little presumptuous of you to assume that you can come to an iPhone forum bash a product that you don't even own .. Oh Wait! ... I'm sorry! ... give your honest heart felt opinion on a product that you don't even own, and expect no one to call BS ...
    It might be your opinion alright, and you made sure to repeat that like 20 times in your first post, but you were fully aware that you would be stirring the pot none the less. Opinions are a funny thing. Sometimes we are asked for our opinions, other times we volunteer them, and then they are times when they are best kept to ourselves. A good example of this would be"gee honey, those pants sure do make your *** look fat"! Common sense will tell most people that nothing good will become of volunteering that opinion, and should be kept to oneself ...
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    10-27-2014 01:23 PM
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