1. Craig's Avatar
    Just wait until you see the next Galaxy come out (Should be around February). .... blah and blah.
    Before I switched to iOS devices I would buy a new phone unlocked every few months and try different things. When I got my first iPhone 3 I was hooked and not going back. I use my phone for my business and personal details. I make phone calls, I take some photos and I communicate. I keep an eye on my schedule and set reminders. I don't need 4GB memory to do that or offloadable (sic) ram.

    Couple phrases you may consider #1 If it's not broke, don't fix it. #2 Trolls live under bridges #3 Craig (me) does not give a crap.

    Over 10M sold 1st weekend USA and 20M pre-order in China. There may be a Samsung coming out in Feb that does all that and wipes your ****, however since by that time 50M plus will be playing with their iPhones, they won't have time to notice. It's not about what could be, it's about what is.. what is now..

    One last note, 20mp vs 8mp has so little difference in the quality of the image, it has to do with size of image. However you're right, that size may be needed if you wish to blow up an image direct from the phone to build a banner to cover an apt complex. However if you're taking photos to print any size up to an easy 16x20 then the iPhone is fine. I have done many canvas prints larger with an iPhone shot than that w/o loss.
    Last edited by Craig; 10-18-2014 at 05:14 PM. Reason: removed 3rd party edit
    10-16-2014 11:56 AM
  2. finn5975's Avatar
    Not exactly. The Galaxy was purchased before the iPhone from our carrier. It's still fully supported and I have yet to find any app that cannot be installed. Apple will force new apps to be developed for iOS 8 only, so very quickly any new apps will not be installable. (on my iPod Touch for example, I cannot install about 75% of everything on the store. Even simple apps like "Canada's smartest person" which is simply text and simple games cannot be installed).

    The hardware spec part, it's not an opinion, it's fact. Apple is about 2 years behind the top hardware companies, and that gap is steadily increasing.

    I can certainly understand those who prefer the Apple OS (although for the most part, opening an app is the same, going to email or texts is the same...). What I don't understand are those that can defend Apple's price point or hardware.
    First, apps are not being ios 8 only optimized.
    Second, you cannot install 75% of everything in the store....lol...right
    Third, your fully supported Galaxy S3 is not slated to get Android L. How is that for support.....
    Fourth, you have been looking at those little marketing gimmicks again haven't you. 2 years behind? Again, the 6 and 6 Plus have B L O W N A W A Y the competition in the benchmarks. The 6 Plus has the highest rated LCD screen. Have you seen the camera reviews?? If you want to be a spec ***** that is cool, but understand you are looking beyond foolish in doing so.
    Finally, have you seen the prices of competing Android flagships? They are the same, yet under-perform compared to iPhones. They don't hold a fraction of their resale value either.

    Man, this is basic stuff. I know you are trolling and I am guilty of feeding you, but I feel terrible that you cannot see beyond the wool.
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    10-16-2014 12:16 PM
  3. Derek Batchelor's Avatar
    Before I switched to iOS devices I would buy a new phone unlocked every few months and try different things. When I got my first iPhone 3 I was hooked and not going back. I use my phone for my business and personal details. I make phone calls, I take some photos and I communicate. I keep an eye on my schedule and set reminders. I don't need 4GB memory to do that or offloadable (sic) ram.

    Couple phrases you may consider #1 If it's not broke, don't fix it. #2 Trolls live under bridges #3 Craig (me) does not give a crap.

    Over 10M sold 1st weekend USA and 20M pre-order in China. There may be a Samsung coming out in Feb that does all that and wipes your ****, however since by that time 50M plus will be playing with their iPhones, they won't have time to notice. It's not about what could be, it's about what is.. what is now..

    One last note, 20mp vs 8mp has so little difference in the quality of the image, it has to do with size of image. However you're right, that size may be needed if you wish to blow up an image direct from the phone to build a banner to cover an apt complex. However if you're taking photos to print any size up to an easy 16x20 then the iPhone is fine. I have done many canvas prints larger with an iPhone shot than that w/o loss.

    Thanks for the troll, if nothing else it shows iOS people stick together and find a community where Android lover go and attack others. Very peaceful way of living. Nice to know... Hope you don't represent the bulk of Android users, only a small envious sad group.
    Since when was there an attack? I enjoy reading peoples responses defending the Apple. I've also made it clear I can understand those that prefer the UI on the Apple.

    The original Apple phones were by far the best in the market and I would have been proud to own one at the time. The reason why Apple has so many iPhone sales is for a few reasons. One because people put the UI above all else. Two is because the Apple echo system (lack of compatibility with anything but Apple) forces you to either stay with them or start from scratch with a new device. Three is because of the lack of knowledge on what hardware advances mean for you.

    Most of those reasons are fully understandable. That being said, the additional RAM on ALL of the competitors phones means they will perform better in all situations, even just using your calendar! The better resolution camera means you can crop the photo and zoom it much more effectively. For example if I was to take a picture of a landscape and wanted to edit that picture so that only 1/4 of the photo shows, then expand that to fill my computer screen means that the picture will be more clear. Waterproof is self-explanatory. You can listen to music on the new Galaxies while you are swimming. There is no need to purchase a waterproof case.
    10-16-2014 12:17 PM
  4. Xm_jdm's Avatar
    Since when was there an attack? I enjoy reading peoples responses defending the Apple. I've also made it clear I can understand those that prefer the UI on the Apple.

    The original Apple phones were by far the best in the market and I would have been proud to own one at the time. The reason why Apple has so many iPhone sales is for a few reasons. One because people put the UI above all else. Two is because the Apple echo system (lack of compatibility with anything but Apple) forces you to either stay with them or start from scratch with a new device. Three is because of the lack of knowledge on what hardware advances mean for you.

    Most of those reasons are fully understandable. That being said, the additional RAM on ALL of the competitors phones means they will perform better in all situations, even just using your calendar! The better resolution camera means you can crop the photo and zoom it much more effectively. For example if I was to take a picture of a landscape and wanted to edit that picture so that only 1/4 of the photo shows, then expand that to fill my computer screen means that the picture will be more clear. Waterproof is self-explanatory. You can listen to music on the new Galaxies while you are swimming. There is no need to purchase a waterproof case.
    The issue is your responses have been PROVEN wrong as finn has clearly pointed out.
    10-16-2014 12:29 PM
  5. Xm_jdm's Avatar
    You can listen to music on the new Galaxies while you are swimming. There is no need to purchase a waterproof case.
    This made me lol.
    10-16-2014 12:31 PM
  6. finn5975's Avatar
    This made me lol.
    Yeah, there is no reason to continue here. Once I read that additional ram on all competitors phones means they will perform better in all situations, I realized what I was dealing with lol. On to other things.
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    10-16-2014 01:04 PM
  7. Derek Batchelor's Avatar
    Know anything about computing or any clue what RAM actually does on a device? RAM can makes or breaks devices. A computer with a great CPU and video card will be bought to it's knees if there is not enough RAM in it. Try running a PC with 1 GB of ram. Try running a MacBook with 1 GB of RAM. Nothing will work. The lack of RAM will severely limit what the iPhone 6 can actually do and the apps that it can run. Those that have purchased the iPhone 6 can count the days until they will need to purchase another $1000.00 phone because of this minor detail.

    The swimming thing was just an example, and your reply clearly shows the arrogance and ignorance of some Apple fanbois. It's something you can do if you want to do it. You can also use it as an underwater camera and if you do make a mistake and drop it in liquid, it won't matter at all.
    10-16-2014 01:21 PM
  8. finn5975's Avatar
    Derek, are you familiar with marriage of OS and Hardware? Are you familiar with efficiencies? Are you familiar with the fact that an iPhone with 1GB of ram has been, wait for it, proven to outperform rivals with 2 and 3 GB of ram?

    How does that make you feel?
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    10-16-2014 01:27 PM
  9. Derek Batchelor's Avatar
    I'm fine with that because everybody and everything (as far as tests and testers) have some sort of bias. You can just as easily find others that say the complete opposite and have tests to back them up as well. That being said, I'm also going to call BS on that one as a marriage between OS and hardware has nothing to do with the amount of usable RAM on a device. The problem with that statement is that the app designers have not created apps that exceed this requirement. When the designers have 4gb of RAM available on other devices, they can and will create more robust and complex apps that the iPhone 6 will not be able to run in the same way. The marriage can have a dramatic effect on the performance as far as the CPU is concerned, but not RAM. If an App needs 2 GB of ram to run, no matter how good the OS integration is, you will never be able to use it. 2GB of RAM is not a lot. It also means that if you are running multiple apps at the same time, you will approach your limit much faster and that will impact the performance of your device. It means iTunes designers have to be aware that they are limited to their app design. It also means the device will be obsolete much faster, which suits Apple just fine.
    10-16-2014 01:48 PM
  10. finn5975's Avatar
    LOL.
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    10-16-2014 01:52 PM
  11. Miska Hietala's Avatar
    Maybe Derek wants to join actually to iPhone camp. All these"questions" could point to the fact that he wants you guys to persuade him😉
    10-16-2014 03:54 PM
  12. HAWK's Avatar
    Since when was there an attack? I enjoy reading peoples responses defending the Apple.
    Ok so this tells me that you plant these comments down because you like to watch people get defensive. If you haven't spent much time in a forum let me tell you that is textbook being a troll. Based on my time here I know that you are not interested in getting along with anyone and are only interested in affirmation from people that you made the right choice with a Samsung or android device. I personally like android as well and I own an s5. The reason I use my iPhone as my daily driver isn't the "specs" it's the ability to get through a day easily whilst things work perfectly together on the smoothest OS going. I wish you luck with your android device, but if you could please stop coming by to promote PC and Android products in a manner that you know and I know is going to get people's backs up that would be much appreciated. It's senseless and meaningless and is not productive conversation which most members here want.
    10-16-2014 06:01 PM
  13. born2ride41's Avatar
    I have to say I miss my 5s sometimes.... While I enjoy the bigger screen for videos and such I am finding it hard to get used to the bigger size....I know I know call me crazy lol
    10-16-2014 06:59 PM
  14. HAWK's Avatar
    I have to say I miss my 5s sometimes.... While I enjoy the bigger screen for videos and such I am finding it hard to get used to the bigger size....I know I know call me crazy lol
    Not at all... That is the same as me
    10-16-2014 07:03 PM
  15. Maladroit23's Avatar
    If my two week return period wasn't gone, I would be in a serious dilemma here lol.
    No buyer's remorse. Just relief that I didn't buy.
    10-16-2014 08:06 PM
  16. iPerry7's Avatar
    There are far better minds than mine here, who know more about ram and optimization and stuff, but i still feel compelled to add my two cents. I used an iphone 5s for almost 9 months before it was destroyed in a freak accident. That was back in August. Since I knew that apple would be launching a new phone in September, I saw no sense in buying another 5s, so i went for an android phone, the Galaxy S5. Let me add, that i have previously used an S2, had rooted it, rommed it beyond recognition, so i am no newbie as far as android is concerned.My experience with the 5s was amazing from the get go. When I bought the S5, i thought it would be way better than my previous samsung phone, the s2, what with the s2 being a dual core phone and the s5 an octacore one with 2 GB of ram. Boy was i wrong. While the apps opened a but faster than on the s2, the dialler lagged just as much. The gallery took literally 3-5 seconds to load. Compared to my iphone , the difference was night and day. The fingerprint scanner is a half baked mess on the S5. Samsung, in a bid to ape the 5s, added it as an afterthought. I have a better chance of winning the lottery than unlocking the phone with that so called fp scanner in one go. The s5 has a 16MP camera as against the 8MP shooter of the iphone, but when i compared picture quality, the iphone 5s had much more accuate colour, not to mention the fact that it has faster auto-focus and it opens the camera app much faster. In every department that matters to me, the iphone consistently outperformed the S5 (and even a nexus 4 that i have lying around). So i dunno about what Ram is or does, i dunno what cores do, i dunno whether apps are written with certain ram requirements in mind or not... What i do know from experience is that the iphone is better and faster at everything that matters to me. About apples hardware being outdated, i have seen my friends iphone 4s which is 3 years old ,outperform an s4 in app opening speed on all major apps. There are people still using the 4s without any problems and apple is still supporting it. The apps which i use daily are definitely better on ios than on android...
    That is the reason why, tomorrow, i am getting a brand new iphone 6.... I am coming home ...
    Sorry for the long post... Had to vent....
    10-17-2014 03:56 AM
  17. iwoodland's Avatar
    This made me lol.
    This is beyond me! Who on heavens earth would want to go swimming with their phone! I am sorry but this is just crazy! I don't give two hoots about a waterproof phone! Keep it in your pocket if it's raining!
    10-17-2014 04:37 AM
  18. kjjb0204's Avatar
    This is beyond me! Who on heavens earth would want to go swimming with their phone! I am sorry but this is just crazy! I don't give two hoots about a waterproof phone! Keep it in your pocket if it's raining!
    There is definitely a place for waterproofing and dust/dirt proofing. Just last weekend I'm at my children's sports event and it was pouring rain. If I had a waterproof phone, I could have taken video of the winning play by my child in overtime. Just because you don't need it doesn't mean it's not a potentially beneficial feature for others.
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    10-17-2014 08:54 AM
  19. Septembersrain's Avatar
    I'm still on the fence about buying this phone. It's discouraging all these issue plagued posts.

    I've had no trouble with my 5c and I think that's the first phone I've ever truly loved.

    I hated my 5s, I could never get over the weird rattle when gently shook. Nor did I ever really like overall look and feel.

    I really want to take the plunge, I just don't know if I will.
    10-18-2014 09:14 AM
  20. bluirv's Avatar
    I have been an Android user since I started with cell phones and have been generally pleased with their customization options.

    I just switched to the iPhone for the first time for one reason primarily--screen size. I preferred Android simply because their screens were bigger. I just could not see myself being happy with a 3-1/2 or 4" screen.

    Did many of you know that in 2010 Steve Jobs said "no one would want to buy a phone with a big screen"?
    10-18-2014 09:20 AM
  21. sting7k's Avatar
    If anyone has buyers remorse from the iPhone 6 then they have serious mental issues IMHO.

    This device is freaking SWEET!!!
    10-18-2014 09:28 AM
  22. sting7k's Avatar
    I'm still on the fence about buying this phone. It's discouraging all these issue plagued posts.

    I've had no trouble with my 5c and I think that's the first phone I've ever truly loved.

    I hated my 5s, I could never get over the weird rattle when gently shook. Nor did I ever really like overall look and feel.

    I really want to take the plunge, I just don't know if I will.
    Fact - some iPhones rattle and some don't. Here's my run down;

    iPhone OG - no
    iPhone 3G - rattle
    iPhone 4 - rattle
    iPhone 5 - no
    iPhone 6 - rattle

    I also know that my sister-in-law's iPhone 5 rattled and my brother's iPhone 4s rattles also.

    There is nothing wrong with a slight rattle on and iPhone. The rattles all sound exactly the same. At least all the ones I've heard do.
    10-18-2014 09:32 AM
  23. Septembersrain's Avatar
    Fact - some iPhones rattle and some don't. Here's my run down;

    iPhone OG - no
    iPhone 3G - rattle
    iPhone 4 - rattle
    iPhone 5 - no
    iPhone 6 - rattle

    I also know that my sister-in-law's iPhone 5 rattled and my brother's iPhone 4s rattles also.

    There is nothing wrong with a slight rattle on and iPhone. The rattles all sound exactly the same. At least all the ones I've heard do.
    My first iPhone was the 5c, I was very spoiled by the way it felt and the lack of rattles. Now it's making me gun shy to move up to the 6. The 5s I'd bought, it ended up sold to my guy....
    10-18-2014 09:37 AM
  24. mactracker1138's Avatar
    No buyers remorse except that I wish I got the 6 plus but it just wasn't within my budget. I did have a lot of remorse over the Samsung Galaxy S3 which killed two micro SD cards and the Note 2 which had a wonderful display but also killed more SD cards. While on paper those phones could "do more" they didn't do it well or reliably so I'd waste lots of time fiddling with the phone to get everything just right but never could instead of actually using it to get things done like I do on my iPhone. I found the Samsung phones to be a jack of all trades, master of nothing type of deal where the iPhone got out of my way and did what it did very efficiently. I'm glad I went back to the iPhone and never will never look back.
    10-18-2014 10:08 AM
  25. badMojo69's Avatar
    I started having buyers remorse today about a week too late.
    I like big phones 5+ inches and the 6 is just a little too small for me, but now I'm stuck with it.
    10-19-2014 05:46 PM
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