1. mfm77's Avatar
    Nice work, Metro - you have a gift for this kind of stuff! At this point, too, it might be time for Apple to ditch the home button to increase the screen size more significantly. We shall see, perhaps sooner than we think!


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    02-22-2014 08:45 AM
  2. mumfoau's Avatar
    Gotta say this is one of if not THE most feasible ideas for a larger screened iPhone!


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    02-22-2014 09:42 AM
  3. Ipheuria's Avatar
    The minute they talked about TouchID I thought it needs to be integrated into the scren. So that I don't need to touch a particular spot. Where on your phone is the most touched by your fingers? the screen. It would also be one of the ways they could do quick response for iMessage which people have wanted since forever. The main problem with allowing people to answer from the lock screen is security. The phone is fast and with Touch ID when you get a message you swipe it and put your finger on the home button and it opens. However now you could tap to open the message and it would authenticate you right form the tap on the screen. However I don't think they are quite there yet and I doubt they will get rid of the home button anytime soon. When you think about ditching the home button you have to consider the entire market the iPhone is sold towards. It is aimed at the general market and not just the "type" of people who use smartphones and tablet devices. It is sold just as much to a teen as it is to a 50 year old. The one thing that makes it easy to use is they always have a way to get back to the home screen, the home button. You take it away and while to us it's not a big deal a certain section of the customers will be lost. There are other reasons why the physical home button is needed. Will they ever get rid of it sure I just don't think we are even close to that yet.
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    02-26-2014 02:06 PM
  4. Metro1088's Avatar
    The minute they talked about TouchID I thought it needs to be integrated into the scren. So that I don't need to touch a particular spot. Where on your phone is the most touched by your fingers? the screen. It would also be one of the ways they could do quick response for iMessage which people have wanted since forever. The main problem with allowing people to answer from the lock screen is security. The phone is fast and with Touch ID when you get a message you swipe it and put your finger on the home button and it opens. However now you could tap to open the message and it would authenticate you right form the tap on the screen. However I don't think they are quite there yet and I doubt they will get rid of the home button anytime soon. When you think about ditching the home button you have to consider the entire market the iPhone is sold towards. It is aimed at the general market and not just the "type" of people who use smartphones and tablet devices. It is sold just as much to a teen as it is to a 50 year old. The one thing that makes it easy to use is they always have a way to get back to the home screen, the home button. You take it away and while to us it's not a big deal a certain section of the customers will be lost. There are other reasons why the physical home button is needed. Will they ever get rid of it sure I just don't think we are even close to that yet.
    Implementing Touch ID directly under the screen seems like the final goal indeed but I doubt it will happen this year. I'd live to be proven wrong by Apple.

    I completely agree that a physical clickable home button is the best for a mass market device. But the home button needs to get smaller and a smaller button would make it very difficult to carry the Touch ID.

    The whole fingerprint sensor is really restricting the size and look of the home button. They need to separate.and evolve on their own. Right now as it is the iPhone is a beautiful device. But the proportions are right for a 4" device, not a 4.7". Notice how Apple shrunk the home button and the bezels for the iPhone 5 compared to 4s. Even a slight increase of the screen size needs a different bezel proportion. This is Apple. They know how to set proportions and truly make the best-looking device for its size. This is why they keep the same design for two years. When they release something, they make sure it looks perfect and don't need to change it the following year.

    This year proportions will change again. Of that I'm sure. Things need to shrink and those that are difficult to shrink due to restrictions-by-design need to change and evolve.



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    02-28-2014 05:01 AM
  5. blueshapti's Avatar
    Consider that the current home button has a metallic capacitance ring that senses the presents of a finger, prior to initiating the sensor run. The physical click controls all the former home button functions. With the capacitance ring initiating print sensor function, in effect a second finger touch, even if you leave finger in place.

    To further complicate things, the camera taking print picture is 500 ppi resolution. And a big security point Apple makes is that the print information it takes is encoded and hard wired to a specific enclave on the 7 chip. Take a look on Apple site at the print sensor construction.

    I could see a size reduction to the home button and sensor ring. But the finger print sensor device is more complicated camera type mechanism, which I can't envision having that functionality over the entire screen.
    Last edited by blueshapti; 03-09-2014 at 10:27 AM.
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    03-09-2014 09:57 AM
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