1. Closingracer's Avatar
    I'm sure that it does .. until it doesn't ... and it takes your stuff with it when it dies.
    That's why you back your stuff up no matter what . Everybody I know who has an Android or had one with a card never had an issue with it. Surely you're going to have problems with a few but the high quality cards should make it pretty low


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    07-19-2015 07:49 PM
  2. HankAZ's Avatar
    Some at the Android Central Forum may want to switch over to the IPhone 6S+ if the Samsung Note 5, also due to be available in the next 1-3 months, does not have these 2 options. Apparently, the design would be similar to the Samsung S6, with metal and glass.

    I know there is quick charging and battery packs; cloud services as alternatives, but are they really better than replaceable battery and sd card?

    Add: Any former Android users here? How difficult was it to adjust not having these 2 options?
    Personally both options are non-starters for me. I have tremendous battery life on my iPhone 6 Plus. I routinely charge it every other day - but have the ability to charge if more frequently if the need arises.

    Likewise, with the iCloud and the plethora of options for cloud based storage, by 64GB is more than sufficient at this time.

    The problem with SD card slots, no matter how integrated are not nearly equivalent to true "onboard" storage. Performance lacks and there are serious issues caused by the inability to do things like store apps on the SD card.

    Not having either option doesn't bother me at all, neither does it negatively affect the design of my phone. The tighter specifications for parts and fit would be lost to some extend by having additional openings and/or "covers" for things like SD card slots, and dealing with removable backs, etc.

    I am perfectly content at this time with the design and function of my iPhone.
    07-19-2015 07:49 PM
  3. Closingracer's Avatar
    I rather pay $200 more for extra space than $110 for a small chip which I'm likely to lose over time (happened a lot to me back in my Windows Mobile Phone times)
    How can you lose a card that should be in your phone....I have plenty in my house where I have a container just for them. Overpriced is overpriced and Apple severely overprices on memory . Not enough of an issue that it's a deal breaker but it's them being greedy


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    07-19-2015 07:50 PM
  4. HankAZ's Avatar
    If you buy high quality brand SD cards you shouldn't have any issues. I have a Samsung pro one and it works great
    It only would if you used it....if you get the Samsung ultra micro SD card or San disk whatever the faster ones are you'll not have any issues really. Obviously internal trumps external in terms of speed but not a noticeable difference with a good card
    I never did. Buying top end cards from San disk or Samsung is fine from my experience
    Why do I get the distinct impression that I have wandered onto a SanDisk or Samsung sponsored forum?
    07-19-2015 07:54 PM
  5. Closingracer's Avatar
    Personally both options are non-starters for me. I have tremendous battery life on my iPhone 6 Plus. I routinely charge it every other day - but have the ability to charge if more frequently if the need arises.

    Likewise, with the iCloud and the plethora of options for cloud based storage, by 64GB is more than sufficient at this time.

    The problem with SD card slots, no matter how integrated are not nearly equivalent to true "onboard" storage. Performance lacks and there are serious issues caused by the inability to do things like store apps on the SD card.

    Not having either option doesn't bother me at all, neither does it negatively affect the design of my phone. The tighter specifications for parts and fit would be lost to some extend by having additional openings and/or "covers" for things like SD card slots, and dealing with removable backs, etc.

    I am perfectly content at this time with the design and function of my iPhone.
    The cloud only works if you have a data connection and the world isn't 100% connected yet. I rather have local storage over cloud since I also don't want it in the cloud for privacy reasons and no amount of convincing could sway my opinion on that. Also should something happen to that server the cloud is on you could lose everything*.


    As as sd cards goes you can install apps to them specially on Samsung phones. And performance wise if you get the higher end ones the speeds were almost as good.


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    07-19-2015 07:55 PM
  6. Haalcyon's Avatar
    Yeah but let's take a Samsung galaxy note 4 and the iPhone 6 plus. Samsung galaxy note 4 is $299 on contract and the iPhone 6 plus is $299 as well. The note 4 can be upgraded to 128GB plus whatever is on the internal memory for around $110 dollars. To get the same general space on the iPhone you'll need to spend $200 more. External memory isn't ever going to be on an apple device because of the fact they can charge you more for internal memory.


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    Yeahp. I have a 64 GB card in my Note 4 and do appreciate the flexibility. Rumor has it that the Note 5 will not have removables. If that is true, I see some new iOS customers.
    07-19-2015 07:55 PM
  7. Closingracer's Avatar
    Why do I get the distinct impression that I have wandered onto a SanDisk or Samsung sponsored forum?
    Because people want to slam sd cards and I'm trying to prove them wrong ? Of course if you buy some off brand card I doubt you'll find them any good but as long as you buy from companies that sell good ones like Samsung or San disk your way less likely to have these issues.


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    07-19-2015 07:58 PM
  8. HankAZ's Avatar
    Because people want to slam sd cards and I'm trying to prove them wrong ? Of course if you buy some off brand card I doubt you'll find them any good but as long as you buy from companies that sell good ones like Samsung or San disk your way less likely to have these issues.
    For the record "way less" is still > 0.
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    07-19-2015 07:58 PM
  9. Tartarus's Avatar
    How can you lose a card that should be in your phone....I have plenty in my house where I have a container just for them. Overpriced is overpriced and Apple severely overprices on memory . Not enough of an issue that it's a deal breaker but it's them being greedy


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    Because of the ability to swap cards.

    I used to have multiple cards in my wallet for different purposes on my WMP back in the day.

    Same goes with digital cameras and as cards. It happens, people lose memory cards, container or not
    07-19-2015 07:59 PM
  10. Closingracer's Avatar
    Yeahp. I have a 64 GB card in my Note 4 and do appreciate the flexibility. Rumor has it that the Note 5 will not have removables. If that is true, I see some new iOS customers.
    Eh maybe lol. The LG G4 is around the same size and offers micro sd card support I believe . But I do see some going with the iPhone though


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    07-19-2015 07:59 PM
  11. Closingracer's Avatar
    Because of the ability to swap cards.

    I used to have multiple cards in my wallet for different purposes on my WMP back in the day.

    Same goes with digital cameras and as cards. It happens, people lose memory cards, container or not
    If you have a 128GB card inside your likely not going to need to swap cards


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    07-19-2015 08:00 PM
  12. Closingracer's Avatar
    For the record "way less" is still > 0.
    True but no product is un breakable.


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    07-19-2015 08:01 PM
  13. Tartarus's Avatar
    Nope, not me. The fact I have 8 hard disks in my desktop proves you wrong .

    But since I'm an iPhone user, I have learned to live with the space I bought with the phone (32GB).

    If I had the option to buy multiple cards, I would have, no matter the space on the biggest available
    07-19-2015 08:04 PM
  14. Tartarus's Avatar
    True but no product is un breakable.


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    [offtopic]Kimmy Schmidt is [/offtopic]
    07-19-2015 08:06 PM
  15. Closingracer's Avatar
    [offtopic]Kimmy Schmidt is [/offtopic]
    Lol I thought of that when I wrote it


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    07-19-2015 08:07 PM
  16. Closingracer's Avatar
    Nope, not me. The fact I have 8 hard disks in my desktop proves you wrong .

    But since I'm an iPhone user, I have learned to live with the space I bought with the phone (32GB).

    If I had the option to buy multiple cards, I would have, no matter the space on the biggest available
    No expandable memory isn't a deal breaker ( obviously lol) but it would be nice to have the choice imo . Me personally I might of bought the 16Gb or 64gb iPhone 6 plus if they had expandable memory


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    07-19-2015 08:09 PM
  17. grover5's Avatar
    I think my views have changed on storage. I was always a proponent of removable storage but since I got my Nexus 6 I can see that with cloud storage I am more than comfortable with my current 32 GB internal and I feel it's faster than my SD card storage in the past. But I would still want a removable battery. It's less expensive than having someone rip the phone open to replace it and I feel adds life to your device and allows for flexibility when travelling. But it isn't a deal breaker.

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    07-19-2015 08:16 PM
  18. Tartarus's Avatar
    I have 5 external batteries for when I'm outdoors and most of the time I only use one of them. I have a cheap charging cable to carry with me at all times in order to spare the official cable provided with the phone. And those external batteries are a lot cheaper than original batteries for phones and they have bigger capacity. What I mean to say is, there is no need for Apple to include replaceable batteries in next generations.
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    07-19-2015 08:21 PM
  19. grover5's Avatar
    I have 5 external batteries for when I'm outdoors and most of the time I only use one of them. I have a cheap charging cable to carry with me at all times in order to spare the official cable provided with the phone. And those external batteries are a lot cheaper than original batteries for phones and they have bigger capacity. What I mean to say is, there is no need for Apple to include replaceable batteries in next generations.
    I do have a 10,000mah external battery that has come in very handy when travelling or during a power outage.

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    07-19-2015 08:23 PM
  20. shief24's Avatar
    I wouldn't mind having an SD card. I could have lots more space and easily share pictures from my Camera to my iPhone. Also, I would have more space for photos/songs/movies in general. Before getting a camera I didn't have a storage issue but i've been taking pics with the camera, editing it on my rMBP and then doing final touches on my iPhone 6+. But this would not be an issue if I had higher internal storage.
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    07-19-2015 10:46 PM
  21. Algus's Avatar
    Gotta back up your data Hank. SD Cards are an awesome tool but are a dime a dozen. I've had plenty of cards blow on me but they are so cheap for decent size its a non-issue. Read/write times on these cards for data storage is negligible I can copy my backup to a fresh 32 GB card fast enough.

    Not saying iPhone needs SD card (I don't use it on my iPod, iPad, etc. and I get on just fine) but don't dismiss the tool because you're practicing bad data management.

    I've got my Note 3 with the biggest card I could get. It is fine, whatever. Personally I use all the junk I have crammed on my Note 3 less than the data I cycle out on my iOS devices when I have them docked to my Mac. Apple drives sales on their higher capacity (and overpriced IMO) configurations because people are afraid they'll run out of space but iOS stuff has some of the easiest data management if you're synced to your Mac or Windows PC.

    I'd be fine with a MicroSD port on my iOS stuff if it was discrete. There is a lot to be said for the sealed case design.
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    07-19-2015 11:32 PM
  22. HankAZ's Avatar
    Gotta back up your data Hank. SD Cards are an awesome tool but are a dime a dozen. I've had plenty of cards blow on me but they are so cheap for decent size its a non-issue. Read/write times on these cards for data storage is negligible I can copy my backup to a fresh 32 GB card fast enough.

    Not saying iPhone needs SD card (I don't use it on my iPod, iPad, etc. and I get on just fine) but don't dismiss the tool because you're practicing bad data management.

    I've got my Note 3 with the biggest card I could get. It is fine, whatever. Personally I use all the junk I have crammed on my Note 3 less than the data I cycle out on my iOS devices when I have them docked to my Mac. Apple drives sales on their higher capacity (and overpriced IMO) configurations because people are afraid they'll run out of space but iOS stuff has some of the easiest data management if you're synced to your Mac or Windows PC.

    I'd be fine with a MicroSD port on my iOS stuff if it was discrete. There is a lot to be said for the sealed case design.
    Who said that I didn't back up my data. I just made a comment that memory cards can fail. And they are significantly ore unreliable/in dependable than internal storage on a mobile device.

    For my money, they are the weakest link in any data storage scheme.


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    07-19-2015 11:46 PM
  23. Closingracer's Avatar
    Who said that I didn't back up my data. I just made a comment that memory cards can fail. And they are significantly ore unreliable/in dependable than internal storage on a mobile device.

    For my money, they are the weakest link in any data storage scheme.


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    64GB cards are $30 bucks or so. I rather spend $30 then $100 any day of the week. San disk offers a lifetime warranty* on their cards and Samsung offers 10 years** I store the important stuff on internal storage and cloud backup and music, apps, videos and etc on the card. Never had an issue with them.


    * the one I bought had one

    ** the pro one does. It's the silver one that they sell.


    Apple overprices the storage because they can and people will buy it. Before Samsung copied Apple with the s6 and the whole scheme of pricing they always offered their phones with 32GB of storage for $50 more vs the $100 Apple sells. Now they do $100 with the S6


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    07-20-2015 12:05 AM
  24. HankAZ's Avatar
    64GB cards are $30 bucks or so. I rather spend $30 then $100 any day of the week. San disk offers a lifetime warranty* on their cards and Samsung offers 10 years** I store the important stuff on internal storage and cloud backup and music, apps, videos and etc on the card. Never had an issue with them.
    I can afford $100 for the 64GB phone and the seamless experience. I don't need a memory card, don't need the performance hit, don't need the extra opening on my phone and don't need to mess with data recovery/exchanging the card if/when it fails.

    Knock yourself out, but I'm pretty much locked into my choice. But thanks for trying to shove your ideas down my throat.

    Apple "overcharges", as you put it, because they deliver a seamless process that is hassle free. It works for me. Rather than seeing it as overcharging, I see it as convenience. Sometimes paying a bit more to avoid the hassle is just the right thing to do.

    Clearly you have an agenda, so push on, but I am done here.
    07-20-2015 01:09 AM
  25. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    lol...are we going to go through all of these threads before the new phone is announced? First it's the blinky LED light for the umpteenth time, then this. Removable batteries? What is this, 2006? SD Cards? Give me faster and more stable on board storage all day.

    Next thing you know, a thread asking if the iPhone will ever have a physical keyboard will pop up.
    07-20-2015 01:58 AM
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