1. Closingracer's Avatar
    Nothing against your opinion, I'm just curious. What about Android feels behind to u ? I own a Note 4 & in some aspects I feel Android is ahead of IOS & IOS is ahead of Android.


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    Android isn't behind ios.... Just different


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    05-21-2015 09:13 PM
  2. Closingracer's Avatar
    That's pretty much my biggest issue with Android. Even on Nexus devices, there isn't any cohesion - for example, some Nexus 6 users get the update pushed one day, and others are still a week or more later. And not all Nexus devices get it at the same time, which makes no sense to me. And then you have phones from Sammy, HTC, etc, that all have to go through their processes and are usually 6 months behind when the update was actually released. And oftentimes these updates have significant improvements in them, which can be seen with the Lollipop update (which has suffered from bad memory leaks and battery issues).


    So it's a bad thing to wait for updates? With them waiting for them to pass their tests it means in theory the update would less likely be broken vs if every phone updated as soon as it's released.


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    05-21-2015 09:15 PM
  3. Wildo6882's Avatar
    So it's a bad thing to wait for updates? With them waiting for them to pass their tests it means in theory the update would less likely be broken vs if every phone updated as soon as it's released.


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    No, that's not the point. Sometimes these updates fix serious issues, but they can take months to get. And I'm talking about carriers holding them up. The unlocked versions will have the update, but the carrier versions won't. I understand why it takes longer, but it sucks. And you don't have that issue on iOS.
    05-21-2015 09:37 PM
  4. Closingracer's Avatar
    No, that's not the point. Sometimes these updates fix serious issues, but they can take months to get. And I'm talking about carriers holding them up. The unlocked versions will have the update, but the carrier versions won't. I understand why it takes longer, but it sucks. And you don't have that issue on iOS.
    Yes but let's say ios 8.4 is so buggy it bricks your iPod, iPad or iPhone. Since all ios devices can update to it at the same time you'll have a lot of bricked phones


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    05-21-2015 09:38 PM
  5. Wildo6882's Avatar
    Yes but let's say ios 8.4 is so buggy it bricks your iPod, iPad or iPhone. Since all ios devices can update to it at the same time you'll have a lot of bricked phones


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    Sure that is a possibility, but I still prefer this method to the "I hope my phone will get the new/latest update this year" method.
    05-21-2015 09:51 PM
  6. Closingracer's Avatar
    Sure that is a possibility, but I still prefer this method to the "I hope my phone will get the new/latest update this year" method.
    If you have a flagship device from Samsung is, LG, or HTC it will.... Motorola is usually good but the Droid turbo is pretty slow at it

    What you're saying is a gross exaggerating


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    05-21-2015 09:52 PM
  7. Wildo6882's Avatar
    If you have a flagship device from Samsung is, LG, or HTC it will.... Motorola is usually good but the Droid turbo is pretty slow at it

    What you're saying is a gross exaggerating


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    It usually will, but you still play the waiting game - and I'm too impatient for that.
    05-21-2015 09:53 PM
  8. Closingracer's Avatar
    It usually will, but you still play the waiting game - and I'm too impatient for that.


    As I said you're grossly exaggerating.


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    05-21-2015 09:54 PM
  9. Wildo6882's Avatar
    As I said you're grossly exaggerating.


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    I believe the T-Mobile Note 4 just got Lollipop, 7 months after Lollipop was released. Most phones, other than Nexus, are on 5.0.1, at best, and 5.1.1 has been released. There's no exaggeration. It can take a ton of time for these updates. I'm an Android guy. I'm typing this from my Nexus 6. I completely understand how the updates work.
    05-21-2015 09:58 PM
  10. Closingracer's Avatar
    I believe the T-Mobile Note 4 just got Lollipop, 7 months after Lollipop was released. Most phones, other than Nexus, are on 5.0.1, at best, and 5.1.1 has been released. There's no exaggeration. It can take a ton of time for these updates. I'm an Android guy. I'm typing this from my Nexus 6. I completely understand how the updates work.
    And verizon galaxy S5 got it in December...your point? Each phone is different and t-mobile note 3 got it late 2014 among other phones.... You're using Samsung as your subject? Lol. HTC, Motorola and LG are faster


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    05-21-2015 10:01 PM
  11. Wildo6882's Avatar
    And verizon galaxy S5 got it in December...your point? Each phone is different and t-mobile note 3 got it late 2014 among other phones.... You're using Samsung as your subject? Lol. HTC, Motorola and LG are faster


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    Yes. Verizon. That's my point. Not all of them got it at the same time. AT&T was April, I believe. I want cohesion.
    05-21-2015 10:02 PM
  12. Closingracer's Avatar
    Yes. Verizon. That's my point. Not all of them got it at the same time. AT&T was April, I believe. I want cohesion.
    It wasn't in April..... Who cares about cohesion. I want stable updates that don't brick phones or screws them up


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    05-21-2015 10:03 PM
  13. Wildo6882's Avatar
    It wasn't in April..... Who cares about cohesion. I want stable updates that don't brick phones or screws them up


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    I can agree with you on that. But I still prefer the Apple way - release the update, everyone gets it, regardless of which carrier you're on.
    05-21-2015 10:05 PM
  14. Closingracer's Avatar
    I can agree with you on that. But I still prefer the Apple way - release the update, everyone gets it, regardless of which carrier you're on.
    Apple way is dumb....I'm going to be laughing when a update bricks all the iPhones all at once or screws them up big time lol.

    FYI I have an iPhone but I generally wait a bit to update my phone


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    05-21-2015 10:06 PM
  15. Cleveland's Avatar
    That's what DFU mode is for ( called Device Firmware Upgrade in case you didn't know) and reverting back to whatever iOS version was prior isn't a big issue... so keep laughing with your fragmented outdated OS lol

    Apple way is dumb....I'm going to be laughing when a update bricks all the iPhones all at once or screws them up big time lol.

    FYI I have an iPhone but I generally wait a bit to update my phone


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    05-21-2015 11:27 PM
  16. trparky's Avatar
    Not only that Apple stills signs OS reloads of previous versions of iOS for (I believe) two weeks after the newest iOS release.
    05-21-2015 11:51 PM
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    Apple way is dumb....I'm going to be laughing when a update bricks all the iPhones all at once or screws them up big time lol.

    FYI I have an iPhone but I generally wait a bit to update my phone


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    Apple's way is dumb...yet the only time since the release of the iPhone where a broken firmware was released to the masses was rectified literally within a few minutes and the download was removed until it was fixed (which was like a couple of days later), and then there's the fact that Apple was still signing the previous firmware version to revert to...so your scenario of this being a concern is a blindly paranoid one at best.

    It's hilarious you pretend like Apple has no safe guards against such a thing, and just throws what they feel is a completed update to the masses with any real chance of it actually affecting any major number of consumers.

    Time to adjust your tin foil hat.
    05-21-2015 11:52 PM
  18. Tre Lawrence's Avatar
    I'll never understand why people feel their preferences equate to general problems with one OS or the other. Android isn't "behind", it's just different. It's built different natively for different functionality that appeals to different people. Why trash it because you prefer something else?

    iOS is great for some and terrible for others.
    Android is great for some and terrible for others.
    Windows OS is great for some and terrible for others.
    Strawberry milkshakes are great for some and terrible for others.

    ...it'd be great if people could simply enjoy their preferred stuff without trashing the other stuff out there.
    Well said sir.
    05-22-2015 12:35 AM
  19. Closingracer's Avatar
    That's what DFU mode is for ( called Device Firmware Upgrade in case you didn't know) and reverting back to whatever iOS version was prior isn't a big issue... so keep laughing with your fragmented outdated OS lol
    Fragmented? I have an iPhone genius


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    05-22-2015 10:25 AM
  20. Wildo6882's Avatar
    Apple's way is dumb...yet the only time since the release of the iPhone where a broken firmware was released to the masses was rectified literally within a few minutes and the download was removed until it was fixed (which was like a couple of days later), and then there's the fact that Apple was still signing the previous firmware version to revert to...so your scenario of this being a concern is a blindly paranoid one at best.

    It's hilarious you pretend like Apple has no safe guards against such a thing, and just throws what they feel is a completed update to the masses with any real chance of it actually affecting any major number of consumers.

    Time to adjust your tin foil hat.
    Dammit, now I'm agreeing with Sean?!?!

    I'll definitely take Apple's way of updating devices over any other way. It's nice to know that an iPhone on Verizon is the same as an iPhone on AT&T, software-wise. I think it's asinine that Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, etc. all have their own versions of Android devices. Hell, they even have their own versions of Nexus devices!!
    05-22-2015 10:41 AM
  21. Closingracer's Avatar
    Dammit, now I'm agreeing with Sean?!?!

    I'll definitely take Apple's way of updating devices over any other way. It's nice to know that an iPhone on Verizon is the same as an iPhone on AT&T, software-wise. I think it's asinine that Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, etc. all have their own versions of Android devices. Hell, they even have their own versions of Nexus devices!!
    They have the same version of nexus 6 devices..... All are the SAME model. The only differences is the logo is added onto the device and in AT&T case a locked bootloader. They still are still the same and they difference in software is added once you add the carrier sim....will get the same update at the same time depending on when Google wants to. People put so much stock into updates but who cares. Idc when or if I get ios updates or Android....still the same experience with Android 4.4 and 5.0 just is called lollipop instead of kitkat. Yay? Ios 8.1 and 8.3? Yay?

    It's asinine the people put so much stock into "faster" updates.... If it's a security thing they usually push them out faster but updates like 5.0 from 4.4 isn't a huge security update




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    05-22-2015 11:41 AM
  22. Wildo6882's Avatar
    They have the same version of nexus 6 devices..... All are the SAME model. The only differences is the logo is added onto the device and in AT&T case a locked bootloader. They still are still the same and they difference in software is added once you add the carrier sim....will get the same update St the same time depending on when Google wants to. People put so much stock into updates but who cares. Idc when or if I get ios updates or Android....still the same experience with Android 4.4 and 5.0 just is called lollipop instead of kitkat. Yay? Ios 8.1 and 8.3? Yay?





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    Except if you're on Verizon and you're using one of the unlocked ones, you're not allowed to make any changes to your account because you're using a phone that isn't provisioned properly. Or so they say. It also took them 4 months to sell the Nexus 6 with their stamp on it. Why? I dunno. And AT&T locked their bootloader. So it isn't the same as the unlocked phone. That's my point. Would Apple let AT&T change something similar on their phone? Nope.

    We aren't going to agree on this, but I'm still liking the way Apple does things more.
    05-22-2015 11:44 AM
  23. Closingracer's Avatar
    Except if you're on Verizon and you're using one of the unlocked ones, you're not allowed to make any changes to your account because you're using a phone that isn't provisioned properly. Or so they say. It also took them 4 months to sell the Nexus 6 with their stamp on it. Why? I dunno. And AT&T locked their bootloader. So it isn't the same as the unlocked phone. That's my point. Would Apple let AT&T change something similar on their phone? Nope.

    We aren't going to agree on this, but I'm still liking the way Apple does things more.
    It's the SAME MODEL.....Google sells 2 models only the model they sell in the US and the international model. The only difference is Verizon didn't really want to sell it so they were dragging it along and AT&T and verizon added their stamp on it. AT&T locked he bootloader but doesn't actually change the phone other then you can easily flash custom roms on it.

    You can agree with whatever you want but I'm calling you out because you are overly exaggerating on Android for effect


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    05-22-2015 11:48 AM
  24. Wildo6882's Avatar
    It's the SAME MODEL.....Google sells 2 models only the model they sell in the US and the international model. The only difference is Verizon didn't really want to sell it so they were dragging it along and AT&T and verizon added their stamp on it. AT&T locked he bootloader but doesn't actually change the phone other then you can easily flash custom roms on it.

    You can agree with whatever you want but I'm calling you out because you are overly exaggerating on Android for effect


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    Have you not seen anything I've said about how much I love Android? I've been on Android since the original Droid X. I love the OS, I love the customization, but I don't like the updates and how the same phone on different carriers gets updates differently. You can call me out, but I'm not trying to do anything for effect. I don't like the update process on Android. I like it on Apple. Pretty simple.
    05-22-2015 11:54 AM
  25. Closingracer's Avatar
    Have you not seen anything I've said about how much I love Android? I've been on Android since the original Droid X. I love the OS, I love the customization, but I don't like the updates and how the same phone on different carriers gets updates differently. You can call me out, but I'm not trying to do anything for effect. I don't like the update process on Android. I like it on Apple. Pretty simple.
    You're grossly exaggerating and that's that....you can say you like android but that's it... And your using Verizon as your defense? Verizon has always been the slowest. HTC, Motorola are generally pretty quick to update their phones and Samsung is to an extent on their unlocked devices and international ones


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    05-22-2015 11:56 AM
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