1. John Crist's Avatar
    People flock to Samsung so they can call iPhone users the sheep.
    And yet that's... exactly what they do, too; Sheep-life behavior. Funny seeing the pot call the kettle black (or white, depending on your chassis color).

    At the end of the day, a device is a device. You choose the tool that works best for you. iPhones work best for x demographic, Android phones work for y demographic. BlackBerries work for z demographic, which I just happen to be part of. Does it make anyone particularly right or wrong? No. Is any one device better than the other? No.

    3GB of RAM >/= 1GB of RAM when dealing with optimized software, such as iOS or BB10.

    EDIT: I'm not 100% sure why my global posts number isn't showing up.
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    04-06-2015 10:18 AM
  2. Closingracer's Avatar
    I think they did really well roping people in when the iPhone hype sort of was wearing off a little. Back then they did a terrific job making potential customers think "it's either iPhone or Samsung Galaxy" (the next big thing). No one else really chimed in and those two fractions started growing and Samsung made sure there's no love lost between them.

    If the S3 at the time really was on a par with the iPhone and all those bold Samsung claims were justified, my bad. My suspicion would have been that as with Touch ID lately (S5) they made sure they had all these fancy features on paper, boasted them big time (leads us back to marketing) but in reality they were clunky at best.



    Eh it wasn't really clunky imo....they just decided to throw everything but the kitchen sink at their customers and hope they will use some of it. Honestly I loved the IR blaster on the phones and I liked some of he other features like multi window and some other small stuff. With the S6 though they are still throwing everything but the kitchen sink but it's turned off by default or just not there any more. People want to clamor on bloatware but every phone or pc is going to have it to an extent. PC's will always have it unless you buy the signature edition at Microsoft stores and even then I might say there is still bloat on it but haven't seen all of the apps on those computers to tell you. Iphones have bloatware that can't be deleted. Macs I haven't used in like forever but I can say it hays iTunes which I would consider bloatware since I don't want it lol. Even nexus devices has apps that can't be deleted and as such is bloatware.

    From reviews so far the s6 is blazing fast with battery life issues but otherwise a great phone.

    Samsung does want to call iPhone users wall huggers but with my experience with iphones has been different. I had a iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4 and now iPhone 6 plus and never really had to worry about battery life


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    04-06-2015 10:42 AM
  3. 21stNow's Avatar
    Marketing, that's literally all it is. Samsung has poured a crazy amount into it, and I don't even blame people for falling for it. It's just how we tick.
    The same could be said for iPhone users, though it would be equally as inaccurate as the original statement. People have different preferences and needs for their smartphones. Different OEMs can satisfy those needs. I don't know why it is hard to believe, but there are actually satisfied Galaxy S line customers just like there are satisfied iPhone customers.
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    04-06-2015 02:58 PM
  4. Closingracer's Avatar
    The same could be said for iPhone users, though it would be equally as inaccurate as the original statement. People have different preferences and needs for their smartphones. Different OEMs can satisfy those needs. I don't know why it is hard to believe, but there are actually satisfied Galaxy S line customers just like there are satisfied iPhone customers.
    I love Samsung devices. I loved the Note 4. Battery life issues and wanting to try an iPhone again is one of the few reasons why I got an iPhone but Samsung phones are just as good and so are HTC and etc


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    04-06-2015 03:31 PM
  5. melbsteve's Avatar
    The same could be said for iPhone users, though it would be equally as inaccurate as the original statement. People have different preferences and needs for their smartphones. Different OEMs can satisfy those needs. I don't know why it is hard to believe, but there are actually satisfied Galaxy S line customers just like there are satisfied iPhone customers.
    I'm just going to quote this link here
    Samsung's $14bn is 'Biggest Marketing Budget in History'

    The South Korean company is expected to spend around $14 billion (8.5bn, 10.3bn) on marketing and promotion of its products in 2013, which is the biggest (as a percentage of its total revenue) advertising budget of any company - ever.
    According to data from Thomson Reuters, Samsung will spend 5.4% of its annual revenue on advertising and promotion, more than any other of the world's top 20 companies by sales.
    To put it in context, all we need to do is look at Samsung big rival in the smartphone and tablet market - Apple.
    The Cupertino company, which is among the most valuable in the world, spends just 0.6% of its revenue on advertising, preferring to use brand loyalty to build sales. This equates to just over $1bn according to data from Asymco.



    now, I do know that these are 2013 numbers and that Apple has lifted their game in 2014 and attempts to close that gap. But 2012/2013 are arguably the years where Samsung's market share went through the roof... and $14billion to $1billion is quite a statement. In those years Apple's expenditures have been a fraction of what Samsung pulled off. Not saying Apple does not market their products, but it's certainly not as 'in your face' as what Samsung has been doing. That's all I'm trying to argue.
    04-07-2015 01:34 AM
  6. shanghaichica's Avatar
    The same could be said for iPhone users, though it would be equally as inaccurate as the original statement. People have different preferences and needs for their smartphones. Different OEMs can satisfy those needs. I don't know why it is hard to believe, but there are actually satisfied Galaxy S line customers just like there are satisfied iPhone customers.
    I agree. I was once a very satisfied Samsung customer. I still think their phones are good they just aren't for me anymore.
    04-07-2015 02:32 AM
  7. 21stNow's Avatar
    I'm just going to quote this link here
    Samsung's $14bn is 'Biggest Marketing Budget in History'

    The South Korean company is expected to spend around $14 billion (8.5bn, €10.3bn) on marketing and promotion of its products in 2013, which is the biggest (as a percentage of its total revenue) advertising budget of any company - ever.
    According to data from Thomson Reuters, Samsung will spend 5.4% of its annual revenue on advertising and promotion, more than any other of the world's top 20 companies by sales.
    To put it in context, all we need to do is look at Samsung big rival in the smartphone and tablet market - Apple.
    The Cupertino company, which is among the most valuable in the world, spends just 0.6% of its revenue on advertising, preferring to use brand loyalty to build sales. This equates to just over $1bn according to data from Asymco.



    now, I do know that these are 2013 numbers and that Apple has lifted their game in 2014 and attempts to close that gap. But 2012/2013 are arguably the years where Samsung's market share went through the roof... and $14billion to $1billion is quite a statement. In those years Apple's expenditures have been a fraction of what Samsung pulled off. Not saying Apple does not market their products, but it's certainly not as 'in your face' as what Samsung has been doing. That's all I'm trying to argue.
    I don't deny that either company has spent a lot of money on marketing. My post was to address the statement that you made: "Marketing, that's literally all it is." (emphasis mine). Marketing did help to propel the Galaxy S and the iPhone into the marketplace, but marketing is not the only reason that those products stay there.
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    04-07-2015 03:30 PM
  8. meanllama's Avatar
    I just came back to Apple from the Galaxy s5. I have been an Apple fan since the original iPhone came out. Early last year, I made the stupid decision to go for the bigger screen and move to Android. I was lulled by the high screen resolutions, pixels, graphics, customizability ....blah blah. The phone was pretty cool in the beginning. However, the hype of the new "features" and "gimmicks" wore off quickly. Those new things I thought were cool to have only worked half the time and I never ended up using them much anyway. Unless I rooted my phone, I was unable to get that bloatware off. In the end, all it did was slow down my device considerably.

    4 months into the phone I was FINALLY able to update to Lollipop. Weeks after the update, it was increasingly becoming difficult to make phone calls or text. The phone would freeze, lock up, and force close in the middle of typing or reading.

    As the frustration continued, I decided to wipe my device and start over fresh. That lasted 4 days. Then it was back to the freezing, locking up, and force closing.

    I was fed up. I went to Best Buy and forked over the extra money to become eligible to get the new 6+. My wife and I switched to Apple and I have never looked back. I missed the usability, simplicity, and using something that "just worked".

    Bottom line is I made a mistake I will never make again. Apple all the way.
    04-09-2015 06:49 PM
  9. trparky's Avatar
    In some ways I kind of wish that I kept my old Note 3 for a little bit longer and waited until the iPhone 6s or iPhone 7 came out simply because of newer hardware considering that the new iPhone is just a couple of months away. But there's other parts of me that simply don't care. Yes, I could have waited until the new version of the iPhone came out and then changed over but then I could have been in the Lollipop mess that a lot of Android users are in right now.

    Does that mean I'm not happy with my iPhone 6 Plus? No, not at all. I couldn't be happier with it. I use it, I don't fight with it.

    As syspry said in a prior post, the quality of Google's code has been in a steady decline ever since KitKat came out. I'd have to agree with that. And from what I have heard Lollipop is garbage.
    04-10-2015 04:28 PM
  10. Closingracer's Avatar
    In some ways I kind of wish that I kept my old Note 3 for a little bit longer and waited until the iPhone 6s or iPhone 7 came out simply because of newer hardware considering that the new iPhone is just a couple of months away. But there's other parts of me that simply don't care. Yes, I could have waited until the new version of the iPhone came out and then changed over but then I could have been in the Lollipop mess that a lot of Android users are in right now.

    Does that mean I'm not happy with my iPhone 6 Plus? No, not at all. I couldn't be happier with it. I use it, I don't fight with it.

    As syspry said in a prior post, the quality of Google's code has been in a steady decline ever since KitKat came out. I'd have to agree with that. And from what I have heard Lollipop is garbage.


    I liked lollipop . I installed it on the note 4 i still have waiting on Verizon mailing me my bill so I can send that to sprint so they can give me the gift card for the payment of the finance charge on the note 4 on Verizon.


    Updating as soon as possible isn't always the smart thing . iOS 8.3 screwed up Touch ID for me on my iPad Air 2 on purchasing apps


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    04-11-2015 01:20 PM
  11. trparky's Avatar
    The TouchID issue has been fixed using an easy method.
    04-11-2015 01:36 PM
  12. Closingracer's Avatar
    The TouchID issue has been fixed using an easy method.
    My point stands either way... Android isn't the only one with issues with new updates ...so don't make it sound like it does .


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    04-11-2015 02:32 PM
  13. trparky's Avatar
    Who's saying that Apple products are without issues? I certainly did not say such a thing.

    However, I did say that Android seems to have more than their fair share of issues. It could very well be because the OEMs can't write good software to save their lives and that in the process of modifying Android to suit their needs they end up destroying it in the process. It's like the OEMs are shoving Android through a meat grinder and what comes out doesn't look so pretty.
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    04-11-2015 02:36 PM
  14. C.K400's Avatar
    My point stands either way... Android isn't the only one with issues with new updates ...so don't make it sound like it does .


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    A little hostility anyone.......Just ditched the Galaxy S5 for the 6 Plus-img_0370.jpg
    04-11-2015 06:14 PM
  15. Closingracer's Avatar
    A little hostility anyone.......Click image for larger version. 

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    Hostility ? No. Pointing out true facts ....iOS updates can be just as buggy as Android ones or other Operating systems ....


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    04-11-2015 06:16 PM
  16. independentvolume's Avatar
    Hostility ? No. Pointing out true facts ....iOS updates can be just as buggy as Android ones or other Operating systems ....


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    Not sure if you are in the united States or not, but if you are you should realize that unless you have a nexus the update are a prayer.

    Rock over London, rock on Chicago...
    04-11-2015 11:49 PM
  17. C.K400's Avatar
    Not sure if you are in the united States or not, but if you are you should realize that unless you have a nexus the update are a prayer.

    Rock over London, rock on Chicago...
    This is very true, you can pretty much bet your life that once you buy an android device the only update you will get is when you buy the newer version of the device. Only updates are when they release a new device and thats even half the time.
    04-12-2015 12:21 AM
  18. Evilguppy's Avatar
    I just came back to Apple from the Galaxy s5. I have been an Apple fan since the original iPhone came out. Early last year, I made the stupid decision to go for the bigger screen and move to Android. I was lulled by the high screen resolutions, pixels, graphics, customizability ....blah blah. The phone was pretty cool in the beginning. However, the hype of the new "features" and "gimmicks" wore off quickly. Those new things I thought were cool to have only worked half the time and I never ended up using them much anyway. Unless I rooted my phone, I was unable to get that bloatware off. In the end, all it did was slow down my device considerably.

    4 months into the phone I was FINALLY able to update to Lollipop. Weeks after the update, it was increasingly becoming difficult to make phone calls or text. The phone would freeze, lock up, and force close in the middle of typing or reading.

    As the frustration continued, I decided to wipe my device and start over fresh. That lasted 4 days. Then it was back to the freezing, locking up, and force closing.

    I was fed up. I went to Best Buy and forked over the extra money to become eligible to get the new 6+. My wife and I switched to Apple and I have never looked back. I missed the usability, simplicity, and using something that "just worked".

    Bottom line is I made a mistake I will never make again. Apple all the way.
    Oh wow I can relate. Give or take a few details, this could have been me and my Note 3. Except I had NOT wanted Kitkat, yet Samsung forced it on me.
    04-12-2015 02:18 AM
  19. shanghaichica's Avatar
    Hostility ? No. Pointing out true facts ....iOS updates can be just as buggy as Android ones or other Operating systems ....


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    I agree however I think unless you have a nexus device you often end up waiting a long time for a fix. Apple and Google are able to releases patches a lot quicker.
    04-12-2015 03:03 AM
  20. Closingracer's Avatar
    Not sure if you are in the united States or not, but if you are you should realize that unless you have a nexus the update are a prayer.

    Rock over London, rock on Chicago...
    I live in the U.S. And any flagship phone will get updates fairly quickly ....idk what you're talking about or other buy but it's shorter then 6 months depending on carrier. HTC says 90 days and they are fairly close to that and carriers aren't that bad with it either


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    04-12-2015 08:22 PM
  21. trparky's Avatar
    The other Android OEMs aren't nearly as quick. Take Samsung for instance. Their update schedule would make a snail's pace look fast.

    How long as Lollipop been out? A year? The S5 has just recently got 5.0.x. And what's out now? Oh yeah, 5.1.x is already out with a boatload of fixes. So you're telling me that it took them a year to shoehorn 5.0.x into it? Absolutely pathetic!
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    04-12-2015 08:46 PM
  22. Closingracer's Avatar
    The other Android OEMs aren't nearly as quick. Take Samsung for instance. Their update schedule would make a snail's pace look fast.

    How long as Lollipop been out? A year? The S5 has just recently got 5.0.x. And what's out now? Oh yeah, 5.1.x is already out with a boatload of fixes. So you're telling me that it took them a year to shoehorn 5.0.x into it? Absolutely pathetic!
    No lollipop came out in October ...

    They announced it around June but didn't get released to the general public till October


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    04-13-2015 01:26 PM
  23. motor96's Avatar
    No lollipop came out in October ...

    They announced it around June but didn't get released to the general public till October


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    Thats still 7 months. lol I guess if you upgrade every year it doesn't matter. I don't think apple is perfect but as far as timely updates, Apples process is far superior to Androids phones.
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    04-13-2015 07:39 PM
  24. davbran's Avatar
    The difference is fragmentation. It's not just Samsung's fault. Everyone says it's not a core Android issue, but in fact it is. I have a Nexus 9 LTE that's still awaiting bug fixes. This device is supposed to be towards the top of the update chain, but it's still sitting on shipped build. Meanwhile S6 and even Android Wear devices are getting this update. As soon said you down stream to OEM then to carrier you get even further fragmented. This is the exact reason that i just traded off my Note 4 for iPhone 6 plus. At the end of the day, I know that my iDevice will continue to receive updates until Apple ends support. I don't have that confidence in any of the Android devices of late. I also feel, and I won't have comparison until Tuesday, that Android web browsers are more ad susceptible that they were a year ago. It might be an industry wide thing, but I have nothing end tip compare against.

    From a hardware standpoint, the Note 4 should just scream along and flow like water, but while it's a quad core 2.7ghz with 3gb of ram, it continues to hitch and hang.

    The way I see it, there are bugs with every system. It's how you address those bugs that makes the difference.
    05-17-2015 05:18 AM
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