1. Not Quite Right's Avatar
    I too have had every iteration of iPhone since the OG, and have only had a problem with the iPhone 5's power button. That was known to have batches with defective power buttons, and Apple had a recall. That iPhone 5 is still in use today by my sister-in-law. I feel comfortable saying that button wear is basically a non-issue with iPhone, and should be only approached on a case by case basis. If this concern of button failure too great for some, then I highly suggest the purchase of Apple Care+ on your device. After that, mash those buttons until your fingers bleed. You might even want to consider having a friend mash buttons while you sleep, because it won't matter you're protected against that very thing. The only help the OP needs with this is to change their approach to the subject ...
    03-24-2015 11:33 AM
  2. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    ...And this is what's wrong with with people who live in a bubble. Just because you and your friends never had an issue doesn't mean no oneness has. What I do with my devices is simple. I use them. Good to know you have had every device like many of us have and like any situation everyone is not always going to have the same experience. Your statement reeks of ignorance to someone's plight. Since you don't have a solution I restate the facts again Apple has changed the mechanism for the home button with every iPhone due to it failing at some point. So if facts aren't enough for you then that's just sad.
    Nobody is living in a bubble...the truth is, the majority of consumers do not have this problem that you've encountered. Not sure what argument you're trying to make against the extremely large consumer base experience...this has nothing to do with singular cases of either side of the argument, the fact of the matter is that outside of the iPhone 5, which did have a very common power button issue reported, NONE of the other devices did, which should tell you two things...

    - Your experience is very much an exception to the rule.
    - You could probably stand to take a look at your own personal usage habits to see if maybe you are causing the issue with something you do yourself.

    ...I'm not telling you that your situation is absolutely, 100% your fault. What I represented was that most people who bought iPhones over the years did not experience this, begging the question of why Apple would change something that works perfectly for a VERY vast majority of the consumer base (we're talking staggering %'s here of probably close to 95-99%).

    You're so hilariously defensive about this that it's hard to take you seriously, but in the attempt to try and garner some civil discussion about this, I'll pose this question to you...if you made a hammer, and you sold millions of them every year, and even 90% of the people who bought them never reported any issues with the hammer...would you completely redesign the hammer to meet the demands or complaints of such a tiny portion of the people who bought your hammer and ultimately had an issue of some sort? Especially if there was no evidence that the issues they were having were directly related to the design or development of it?

    To clarify, I was being quite generous with the % of that theoretical situation there...Apple's satisfaction rating is probably a lot closer to 100% than 90%.

    Also, stop taking things so personally...it's pointless to cry about how you personally use things and how you have the right to complain about this or that. We are all here in this community with our own experiences and opinions...if you don't like it when you get some conflicting replies, maybe you should refrain from posing such things in an open online forum.
    03-24-2015 11:42 AM
  3. anon8656116's Avatar
    A faulty home button is a pretty common reason for warranty repairs or even replacements. I had my iPhone 4 replaced after 1.5 years, because the home button became unresponsive. It happens and it’s definitely one of the weak spots of the iPhone, aside from manufacturing errors.

    I think the reason why Apple doesn’t provide the things you suggested is because they still believe in the home button and the ease of use associated with it. Apple often goes great lengths to make sure that the phone does what you would expect. Accidentally tapping the home button several times may lead to confusion. Four or five-finger gestures seem incredibly wonky. I have confidence that they’ve tested these scenarios multiple times and concluded that it currently works best. In addition, they’ve improved the mechanics of the home button over the years.
    03-24-2015 12:00 PM
  4. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    It happens and it’s definitely one of the weak spots of the iPhone, aside from manufacturing errors.
    This is simply untrue. How do you define something as a "weak spot" if of the tens of millions of devices sold, less than 10% of them are reported for having such an issue? Calling something a "weak spot" would indicate that it is a common issue that is reported, and as stated before, that simply is not the case at all.

    Think about the pure numbers for a second...tens of thousands of people came in or reported this issue, it's minuscule compared to the whole, and certainly not indicative of being called a "weak spot".

    It'd be like calling an outbreak of some kind of disease, that effected 100 people amongst 100,000,000 people, an epidemic. Sure it sucks for the people who got it, and sure, it should be handled, but epidemic it is not.
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    03-24-2015 12:07 PM
  5. AlexJ92's Avatar
    Not going to lie, when I had my original iPhone back in 2007, my home button became abit less responsive, but since the original I have had no issues at all.
    03-24-2015 12:18 PM
  6. HankAZ's Avatar
    Not going to lie, when I had my original iPhone back in 2007, my home button became abit less responsive, but since the original I have had no issues at all.
    Thanks for not lying to us.
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    03-24-2015 12:36 PM
  7. anon8656116's Avatar
    This is simply untrue. How do you define something as a "weak spot" if of the tens of millions of devices sold, less than 10% of them are reported for having such an issue? Calling something a "weak spot" would indicate that it is a common issue that is reported, and as stated before, that simply is not the case at all.

    Think about the pure numbers for a second...tens of thousands of people came in or reported this issue, it's minuscule compared to the whole, and certainly not indicative of being called a "weak spot".

    It'd be like calling an outbreak of some kind of disease, that effected 100 people amongst 100,000,000 people, an epidemic. Sure it sucks for the people who got it, and sure, it should be handled, but epidemic it is not.
    “A faulty home button is a pretty common reason for warranty repairs or even replacements.” You may never have a hardware issue with your iPhone, but if you do, a faulty home button is a common occurrence.
    03-24-2015 12:40 PM
  8. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    A faulty home button is a pretty common reason for warranty repairs or even replacements. You may never have a hardware issue with your iPhone, but if you do, a faulty home button is a common occurrence.
    Is it more common than shattered displays or defective batteries of which I *think* are probably the top two repair issues?
    03-24-2015 01:07 PM
  9. anon8656116's Avatar
    Is it more common than shattered displays or defective batteries of which I *think* are probably the top two repair issues?
    No, but did I say that? Anyway, shattered glass is mostly a user fault, whereas faulty batteries are perhaps among the most common defects in electronic devices generally. Specific to Apple, however, is a faulty home button. It has been causing issues since the first iPhone and has been a weak spot ever since. In my country, Apple replaces a faulty home button outside of Apple Care without any problems, they even replaced my entire phone. They are not as forthcoming with other defects, including faulty batteries beyond AppleCare (they charge you for replacements even if you’re entitled to get it replaced under warranty). It’s legit to ask why Apple hasn’t done anything to minimise the usage of the home button, especially since the iPad does have some unique gestures, which should also work on the larger iPhones now.
    03-24-2015 01:27 PM
  10. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    No, but did I say that? Anyway, shattered glass is mostly a user fault, whereas faulty batteries are perhaps among the most common defects in electronic devices generally. Specific to Apple, however, is a faulty home button. It has been causing issues since the first iPhone and has been a weak spot ever since. In my country, Apple replaces a faulty home button outside of Apple Care without any problems, they even replaced my entire phone. They are not as forthcoming with other defects, including faulty batteries beyond AppleCare (they charge you for replacements even if youre entitled to get it replaced under warranty). Its legit to ask why Apple hasnt done anything to minimise the usage of the home button, especially since the iPad does have some unique gestures, which should also work on the larger iPhones now.
    You seem to feel as if everyone hates using the home button or that everyone seeks to rid the iPhone of it, and that is far from being true. Sure, it's okay to ask Apple to create a device with no home button or to create one where the home button is used less, however, to use a few instances where people have had faulty home buttons doesn't make it a widespread problem nor is it enough proof that Apple should do away with it. To also say that Apple is not forthcoming about other defects insinuates that you have proof that they are hiding something. Please share that proof if you have it. As it stands, the home button is part of the iPhone's design and there are some people whose home buttons have been defective. There are some people whose batteries have been defective. There are some people whose iOS installation has been corrupted, yet, the sum of some is minuscule. In regard to "common", I'll just say that it may be common in some places and almost nonexistent in others...
    Last edited by Just_Me_D; 03-24-2015 at 01:49 PM.
    03-24-2015 01:39 PM
  11. iEd's Avatar
    No, but did I say that? Anyway, shattered glass is mostly a user fault, whereas faulty batteries are perhaps among the most common defects in electronic devices generally. Specific to Apple, however, is a faulty home button. It has been causing issues since the first iPhone and has been a weak spot ever since. In my country, Apple replaces a faulty home button outside of Apple Care without any problems, they even replaced my entire phone. They are not as forthcoming with other defects, including faulty batteries beyond AppleCare (they charge you for replacements even if youre entitled to get it replaced under warranty). Its legit to ask why Apple hasnt done anything to minimise the usage of the home button, especially since the iPad does have some unique gestures, which should also work on the larger iPhones now.
    Dude it's not a weak spot. Tell me why I've had:
    Original iPhone,3GS,4S,5S,6 Plus and iPad 2 and never had a faulty home button.
    Home button still works perfectly on my Original iPhone.
    Or am I just lucky and have purchased good idevices out of hundreds of millions and never got a bad home button.
    This tells me the home button is a sound mechanism.


    03-24-2015 01:39 PM
  12. HankAZ's Avatar
    No, but did I say that? Anyway, shattered glass is mostly a user fault, whereas faulty batteries are perhaps among the most common defects in electronic devices generally. Specific to Apple, however, is a faulty home button. It has been causing issues since the first iPhone and has been a weak spot ever since. In my country, Apple replaces a faulty home button outside of Apple Care without any problems, they even replaced my entire phone. They are not as forthcoming with other defects, including faulty batteries beyond AppleCare (they charge you for replacements even if you’re entitled to get it replaced under warranty). It’s legit to ask why Apple hasn’t done anything to minimise the usage of the home button, especially since the iPad does have some unique gestures, which should also work on the larger iPhones now.
    Four words: Put. Down. The. Shovel.
    03-24-2015 01:43 PM
  13. anon8656116's Avatar
    You seem to feel as if everyone hates using the home button or that everyone seeks to rid the iPhone of it, and that is far from being true. Sure, it's okay to ask Apple to create a device with no home button or to create one where the home button is used less, however, to use a few instances where people have had faulty home buttons doesn't make it a widespread problem nor is it enough proof that Apple should do away with it. To also say that Apple is not forthcoming about other defects insinuates that you have proof that they are hiding something. Please share that proof if you have it. As it stands, the home button is part of the iPhone's design and there are some people whose home buttons have been defective. There are some people whose batteries have been defective. There are some people whose iOS installation has been corrupted, yet, the sum of some minuscule. In regard to "common", I'll just say that it may be common in some places and almost nonexistent in others...
    I love the home button, I don’t want it to go. I don’t know why anyone here thinks that I advocate replacing or even removing it, because I don’t. This topic is about the option to use additional controls to avoid using the home button in all cases as we have to do now. I can understand why the OP would make that suggestion. Heavy usage of the home button, especially if you’re a ‘multitasker’, can happen and it can be a problem for you down the road.

    Dude it's not a weak spot. Tell me why I've had:
    Original iPhone,3GS,4S,5S,6 Plus and iPad 2 and never had a faulty home button.
    Home button still works perfectly on my Original iPhone.
    Or am I just lucky and have purchased good idevices out of hundreds of millions and never got a bad home button.
    This tells me the home button is a sound mechanism.
    That you never had a hardware defect is great for you, but I never said (and please do read my post again) that many users have a faulty home button. What I said is that if you do have a hardware issue, the home button is likely to be among them, next to shattered screens and of course faulty batteries. It stands to reason that Apple would have something to gain by removing the home button if they seek to reduce hardware issues. Again, not saying that they should do it.

    Four words: Put. Down. The. Shovel.
    I guess I like to live dangerously.

    ––*

    I have said what I wanted to say anyway. I’m not going to have an argument about this.
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    03-24-2015 01:54 PM
  14. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    I love the home button, I dont want it to go. I dont know why anyone here thinks that I advocate replacing or even removing it, because I dont.
    You stated, "Specific to Apple, however, is a faulty home button. It has been causing issues since the first iPhone and has been a weak spot ever since".
    This topic is about the option to use additional controls to avoid using the home button in all cases as we have to do now.
    That statement does not scream "I love the home button" or "I don't want it to go".
    I can understand why the OP would make that suggestion.
    Agreed
    Heavy usage of the home button, especially if youre a multitasker, can happen and it can be a problem for you down the road.
    This is true. It "can" be a problem and it "is" a problem for "some" people, but again, "some" does not equate to "everyone". Keep in mind that some of the replies are in regard to specific comments within the thread and not necessarily in regard to the thread topic.
    03-24-2015 02:07 PM
  15. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    “A faulty home button is a pretty common reason for warranty repairs or even replacements.” You may never have a hardware issue with your iPhone, but if you do, a faulty home button is a common occurrence.
    That makes absolutely no sense. I've had every iteration of iPhone since the beginning...only one of them had a power button issue (iPhone 5), and once replaced, I never had the issue again. This, by definition, negates what you just said.

    Common indicates a regular issue that effects a large portion of the users of said product...this simply has not happened on any other iPhone besides the 5, and even then, it was still a relatively small % of the whole.
    03-24-2015 03:22 PM
  16. LCW's Avatar
    I had an iPhone 5 that the power button went bad. Got it replaced under warranty. I did read recently that Apple is extending warranty replacements for the power button on iPhone 5's. Obviously there was an issue. Luckily no issues on my 6 or now my 6 Plus.
    03-24-2015 10:21 PM
  17. zerog46's Avatar
    I used to live in a bubble then someone popped it.
    03-24-2015 10:45 PM
  18. shanghaichica's Avatar
    I've owned 3 iPhones, 4 ipads and 6 iPods. I've only had the home button fail on one of the iPhones. Apple replaced the handset free of charge, no questions asked.
    03-25-2015 05:51 AM
  19. anon8656116's Avatar
    That makes absolutely no sense. I've had every iteration of iPhone since the beginning...only one of them had a power button issue (iPhone 5), and once replaced, I never had the issue again. This, by definition, negates what you just said.

    Common indicates a regular issue that effects a large portion of the users of said product...this simply has not happened on any other iPhone besides the 5, and even then, it was still a relatively small % of the whole.
    Honestly, I don’t know what to say. One more time: this isn’t about the people without hardware issues, of which you are one, it’s about the people with hardware issues. Statistically, you are likely to have no issue at all with your iPhone within the typical warranty period. The fact that you’ve claimed to have had every iteration since the first iPhone, suggests to me that you are not using your iPhones long enough as main devices in order to experience these issues and are unlikely to get a faulty button. However, among the hardware issues people are experiencing, a faulty home button is a common one, not as much as a faulty battery or shattered glass of course.

    You stated, "Specific to Apple, however, is a faulty home button. It has been causing issues since the first iPhone and has been a weak spot ever since". That statement does not scream "I love the home button" or "I don't want it to go". Agreed This is true. It "can" be a problem and it "is" a problem for "some" people, but again, "some" does not equate to "everyone". Keep in mind that some of the replies are in regard to specific comments within the thread and not necessarily in regard to the thread topic.
    You don’t even know why I like the home button, so please don’t presume that just because I support the suggestion to get alternative input methods that I’m not standing behind the home button as such. I actually would only like to have a multi-touch gesture for switching between apps (like on the iPad) or that raise-to-wake-up feature that’s included in the Apple Watch (it’s been a feature on Android for some time, all BlackBerry 10 devices now have it also, it’s pretty neat). Again, these things could reduce the usage of the home button and as such reduce wearing and hardware issues down the road. That’s all this is about.
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    03-26-2015 01:03 PM
  20. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    ...You dont even know why I like the home button, so please dont presume that just because I support the suggestion to get alternative input methods that Im not standing behind the home button as such. I actually would only like to have a multi-touch gesture for switching between apps (like on the iPad) or that raise-to-wake-up feature thats included in the Apple Watch (its been a feature on Android for some time, all BlackBerry 10 devices now have it also, its pretty neat). Again, these things could reduce the usage of the home button and as such reduce wearing and hardware issues down the road. Thats all this is about.
    This had nothing to do with you liking the home button. That's your business. My previous reply was in regard to a statement you made, and that statement is this:

    "I dont know why anyone here thinks that I advocate replacing or even removing it, because I dont."

    Well, you stated that you like the home button. No problem. Then you made a statement that appeared to be in contradiction with you liking the home button, and that statement was this:

    "Specific to Apple, however, is a faulty home button. It has been causing issues since the first iPhone and has been a weak spot ever since".

    That is why readers thought you "advocate replacing or even removing it".
    03-26-2015 02:10 PM
  21. HankAZ's Avatar
    Perhaps it's time to close this one down. I think we've circled back at least 2 or 3 times now.
    03-26-2015 03:12 PM
  22. iEd's Avatar
    In response to someone not using a iPhone for a long time. I still have my original iPhone almost 8 years old home button is good as new I used the original iPhone from 2007-2009 and iPad 2 for almost 4 years home button still good.
    I just disagree that it's a weak spot.
    I firmly believe that a person is more likely to not have a home button problem than to have a problem.


    03-26-2015 03:29 PM
  23. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Honestly, I don’t know what to say. One more time: this isn’t about the people without hardware issues, of which you are one, it’s about the people with hardware issues. Statistically, you are likely to have no issue at all with your iPhone within the typical warranty period. The fact that you’ve claimed to have had every iteration since the first iPhone, suggests to me that you are not using your iPhones long enough as main devices in order to experience these issues and are unlikely to get a faulty button. However, among the hardware issues people are experiencing, a faulty home button is a common one, not as much as a faulty battery or shattered glass of course.
    Blah blah blah...what you said originally that sparked my retort was that the power button "issue" was a common one, and it is not, regardless of how you attempt to dance around what you mean by "common". Is it more common than a person coming in for their iPhone exploding and leaking alien acid all over their lap? Sure. Is it more common than someone's iPhone sprouting legs and literally running away on it's own? Absolutely.

    In the real world though, it is NOT a common issue...at all. Feel free to try and re-define the word "common" to fit your argument though...eventually you'll have to resort to just absurd comedy, and I enjoy reading humorous posts.
    03-26-2015 09:55 PM
  24. anon8656116's Avatar
    Blah blah blah...what you said originally that sparked my retort was that the power button "issue" was a common one, and it is not, regardless of how you attempt to dance around what you mean by "common". Is it more common than a person coming in for their iPhone exploding and leaking alien acid all over their lap? Sure. Is it more common than someone's iPhone sprouting legs and literally running away on it's own? Absolutely.

    In the real world though, it is NOT a common issue...at all. Feel free to try and re-define the word "common" to fit your argument though...eventually you'll have to resort to just absurd comedy, and I enjoy reading humorous posts.
    Whatever. To quote another poster here: “Perhaps it's time to close this one down. I think we've circled back at least 2 or 3 times now.”

    Have a good night.
    03-26-2015 10:00 PM
  25. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Whatever.
    03-26-2015 10:04 PM
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