1. doctordwaynewilliams's Avatar
    These phones whether it be android or iOS or another platform are able to do so much. And there are so many options that makes it difficult to decide. But at the end of the day, if I had to choose a device to keep for a year or longer, I would choose an iPhone. I know that sounds weird coming from me because I have been a big fan of the Note 4. And I believe that the Note 4 is the best all-in-one device on the market. But the iPhone comes with a lot of features that really work well. There may not be more features than a Samsung device, but the iPhone is very capable for work and play and it does it with the highest level of performance, best app and multimedia selection, and support and accessories. Also, when you throw in Apple support, you have a pretty good package.


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    01-15-2015 03:38 PM
  2. RavenSword's Avatar
    These phones whether it be android or iOS or another platform are able to do so much. And there are so many options that makes it difficult to decide. But at the end of the day, if I had to choose a device to keep for a year or longer, I would choose an iPhone. I know that sounds weird coming from me because I have been a big fan of the Note 4. And I believe that the Note 4 is the best all-in-one device on the market. But the iPhone comes with a lot of features that really work well. There may not be more features than a Samsung device, but the iPhone is very capable for work and play and it does it with the highest level of performance, best app and multimedia selection, and support and accessories. Also, when you throw in Apple support, you have a pretty good package.


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    If given the choice again would you go iPhone insted of the note 4? I'm between either the 6 plus or note 4 right now
    01-15-2015 04:23 PM
  3. doctordwaynewilliams's Avatar
    If given the choice again would you go iPhone insted of the note 4? I'm between either the 6 plus or note 4 right now
    Depends. If I was looking at just using one device, not having a tablet or using a laptop, I would go with the Note 4. If you are planning on using a secondary device I would go with the iPhone. I really like both, but I can break it down this way. The iPhone does what it does better than the Note 4 in just about every aspect. But the Note 4 blows the iPhone away on features. So I would go for the 6 plus. The features on the Note 4 are great and I have been going back and forth with these two devices for a while now. But the truth is, using the s-pen is cooler, but not more convenient. And I could probably say the same for the Note 4 as a whole. It's cooler, but not more convenient.


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    01-15-2015 04:27 PM
  4. Wildo6882's Avatar
    If given the choice again would you go iPhone insted of the note 4? I'm between either the 6 plus or note 4 right now
    Haha, I'm in the same boat.
    01-15-2015 04:57 PM
  5. RavenSword's Avatar
    Depends. If I was looking at just using one device, not having a tablet or using a laptop, I would go with the Note 4. If you are planning on using a secondary device I would go with the iPhone. I really like both, but I can break it down this way. The iPhone does what it does better than the Note 4 in just about every aspect. But the Note 4 blows the iPhone away on features. So I would go for the 6 plus. The features on the Note 4 are great and I have been going back and forth with these two devices for a while now. But the truth is, using the s-pen is cooler, but not more convenient. And I could probably say the same for the Note 4 as a whole. It's cooler, but not more convenient.


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    I do have to say that the note 4's screen and removable back are I giving. Seriously, that screen is amazing. I just don't know about the whole touchwiz/relying on carrier OS update thing.
    01-15-2015 06:23 PM
  6. RavenSword's Avatar
    Another thing that bugs me about iPhone is pricing. It's kinda my same complaint about macs. Not everyone can afford a 800 dollar iPhone, just like not everyone can afford a 1500 dollar Mac. And if a person can only afford a 500 dollar or less phone and a 800 dollar or less computer, they have no choice but to go with android or windows. And those options at the price are pretty good these days.
    01-15-2015 06:48 PM
  7. kch50428's Avatar
    Apple doesn't play to the low end of the market... it's saturated...
    01-15-2015 06:50 PM
  8. RavenSword's Avatar
    Apple doesn't play to the low end of the market... it's saturated...
    That's fine I guess, the problem is there's many many people who can't afford the high end. And it seems like there often punished with bad products just because of their financial situation. That's why I want to see more and more high quality inexpensive (or less expensive) options.
    01-15-2015 07:11 PM
  9. iEd's Avatar
    Doesn't a 32 gig Note 4 off contract go for $750-800? iPhone 6 plus 64 gig is $849.



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    01-15-2015 08:20 PM
  10. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    That's fine I guess, the problem is there's many many people who can't afford the high end. And it seems like there often punished with bad products just because of their financial situation. That's why I want to see more and more high quality inexpensive (or less expensive) options.
    No one is entitled to luxury items. We've beaten this horse to death, but your logic here is like saying that poor people are punished because they can't go out to steak dinners every night due to their financial situation, and that steak houses should offer meals for poor people to afford. This is just ridiculous.
    01-15-2015 08:21 PM
  11. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    In addition, not every poor person wants an iPhone. Furthermore, the privileged often underestimates the buying power of "the poor", and are often surprised to learn how many luxury items "the poor" owns.
    01-15-2015 08:38 PM
  12. robbrick's Avatar
    No one is entitled to luxury items. We've beaten this horse to death, but your logic here is like saying that poor people are punished because they can't go out to steak dinners every night due to their financial situation, and that steak houses should offer meals for poor people to afford. This is just ridiculous.
    I agree. Apple doesn't sell products for people that want cheap products. Most people can afford an iPhone because of the subsidy from the carrier. If you're not paying the $849 out of pocket to buy the phone, then we have no business discussing how much a phone costs off-contract.
    01-15-2015 08:54 PM
  13. Septembersrain's Avatar
    In addition, not every poor person wants an iPhone. Furthermore, the privileged often underestimates the buying power of "the poor", and are often surprised to learn how many luxury items "the poor" owns.
    Technically the term luxury can really be different from person to person. Like one man's luxury may be an iPhone! However, another's might be simply food for his starving family.

    Life is a luxury in itself if you really stop and look at it. You could just not have the option to buy an iPhone because you died on the eve of its announcement.
    01-15-2015 10:10 PM
  14. DX9's Avatar
    I had the iPhone 6 when it came out. I then switched to a Note 4. I swore this was the end of switching and loved the Note. Both platforms are great but at the end of the day I needed to go back to iOS. Missed iMessage, reply to messages right from the lock screen, finger print sensor totally kills the Note 4 ID scanner (wouldn't work even 25% of the time). Got my daughter an iPod touch for Xmas and and an iPad mini. She wanted to message me but couldn't cause I had android. It just comes down to what you need it for.

    Sold the Note 4 the other night and after that went directly to the Apple Store and bought a 6 Plus 64GB outright. Very happy with the decision. I could go on with pros and cons of each device but I don't want to fill the entire page
    01-16-2015 06:33 AM
  15. warcraftWidow's Avatar
    Another thing that bugs me about iPhone is pricing. It's kinda my same complaint about macs. Not everyone can afford a 800 dollar iPhone, just like not everyone can afford a 1500 dollar Mac. And if a person can only afford a 500 dollar or less phone and a 800 dollar or less computer, they have no choice but to go with android or windows. And those options at the price are pretty good these days.
    Woe is meI can't afford a Ferrari. Not every maker of consumer goods needs to play in all price ranges of the market.
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    01-16-2015 07:06 AM
  16. doctordwaynewilliams's Avatar
    I had the iPhone 6 when it came out. I then switched to a Note 4. I swore this was the end of switching and loved the Note. Both platforms are great but at the end of the day I needed to go back to iOS. Missed iMessage, reply to messages right from the lock screen, finger print sensor totally kills the Note 4 ID scanner (wouldn't work even 25% of the time). Got my daughter an iPod touch for Xmas and and an iPad mini. She wanted to message me but couldn't cause I had android. It just comes down to what you need it for.

    Sold the Note 4 the other night and after that went directly to the Apple Store and bought a 6 Plus 64GB outright. Very happy with the decision. I could go on with pros and cons of each device but I don't want to fill the entire page
    And to be honest, I think that's what it really comes down to. How are you going to use the device? It really has very little to do about which device is actually the best.


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    01-16-2015 08:51 AM
  17. cwbcpa's Avatar
    To answer your initial questions: 1) It's not too big for me or my wife who is only 5'3" and is small. She isn't stuffing it in her front pocket like I do but she manages with it and you couldn't make her switch to a smaller phone now. 2) I don't see the bending issue. Use common sense and you won't bend any of your phones. 3) I honestly am not qualified to answer this, but I have never seen a problem with my phone at all. It's great.

    As far as the 6 plus vs Note 4 debate, I have been there and done that. I have had every phone imaginable and bounced around way too much. When my upgrade came up in November I said I would pick a phone based on my need and not what "cool" things it could do. Those cool things wear off and you end up doing the same basic things on a phone regardless of it being an iPhone, Note or whatever. I made a list of those functions that really mattered. Then I asked myself what phone I thought did each of those the best. In most cases it was the iPhone. Without the availability of the big screen on the 6 plus my answer probably would have been different even though I still prefer the way iOS does certain things. I really like having the big screen. With the 6 Plus, I get both the big screen and all the features that I want for daily use.

    That is my situation. You have to figure that out for yourself. Make a choice and give it a chance. If all you do is chase the next thing coming out you will never be satisfied and unless you have unlimited income you will be broke too.
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    01-16-2015 12:51 PM
  18. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    Another thing that bugs me about iPhone is pricing. It's kinda my same complaint about macs. Not everyone can afford a 800 dollar iPhone, just like not everyone can afford a 1500 dollar Mac. And if a person can only afford a 500 dollar or less phone and a 800 dollar or less computer, they have no choice but to go with android or windows. And those options at the price are pretty good these days.
    Maybe you wouldn't be in the position of having to spend full retail on iPhones if you wouldn't put yourself in a position where you're using your carrier subsidy to pay off an HTC One M8 that you bought when the iPhone 6 and Plus launched. That's the phone you said you purchased in one of your other threads.
    01-16-2015 01:31 PM
  19. doctordwaynewilliams's Avatar
    Another thing that bugs me about iPhone is pricing. It's kinda my same complaint about macs. Not everyone can afford a 800 dollar iPhone, just like not everyone can afford a 1500 dollar Mac. And if a person can only afford a 500 dollar or less phone and a 800 dollar or less computer, they have no choice but to go with android or windows. And those options at the price are pretty good these days.
    They could always buy an older iPhone. They can buy the iPhone 5C for pretty cheap or the the iPhone 5S and if they get them on contract they are paying next to nothing.


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    01-16-2015 01:40 PM
  20. RavenSword's Avatar
    To answer your initial questions: 1) It's not too big for me or my wife who is only 5'3" and is small. She isn't stuffing it in her front pocket like I do but she manages with it and you couldn't make her switch to a smaller phone now. 2) I don't see the bending issue. Use common sense and you won't bend any of your phones. 3) I honestly am not qualified to answer this, but I have never seen a problem with my phone at all. It's great.

    As far as the 6 plus vs Note 4 debate, I have been there and done that. I have had every phone imaginable and bounced around way too much. When my upgrade came up in November I said I would pick a phone based on my need and not what "cool" things it could do. Those cool things wear off and you end up doing the same basic things on a phone regardless of it being an iPhone, Note or whatever. I made a list of those functions that really mattered. Then I asked myself what phone I thought did each of those the best. In most cases it was the iPhone. Without the availability of the big screen on the 6 plus my answer probably would have been different even though I still prefer the way iOS does certain things. I really like having the big screen. With the 6 Plus, I get both the big screen and all the features that I want for daily use.

    That is my situation. You have to figure that out for yourself. Make a choice and give it a chance. If all you do is chase the next thing coming out you will never be satisfied and unless you have unlimited income you will be broke too.
    Well, my phone really is my primary computing device. It's where I do most my web browsing, email, and things like that which I used to use a desktop computer for. It's also where I watch a lot of video and do mobile gaming.

    I think I do prioritize battery life, OS updates (I don't want to wait 4 months to get the latest OS), and performance (I don't like lag or unresponsiveness)

    I know that the iPhone 6 plus does well in those areas, while the note 4 I think could struggle with OS update speed and maybe UI performance. But I do like its screen more and I think a removable back would be useful. Also, part of me kinda just wants to try something different than iPhone. I find the software of iOS getting a bit stale. But I'm not exactly unhappy with it.

    Personally I still found iOS a bit smoother, particularly in games. I'm not sure what it is, but there's less input lag and it just seems a bit smoother. Maybe it'll be better on the note 4, but it's just something I noticed on every android I've used.

    The update thing is still a major annoyance with android. I think it's rediculous that unless you get a nexus or Motorola device you really don't know when (or even if) you'll get the latest software fix or OS update.
    01-16-2015 03:27 PM
  21. Wildo6882's Avatar
    To answer your initial questions: 1) It's not too big for me or my wife who is only 5'3" and is small. She isn't stuffing it in her front pocket like I do but she manages with it and you couldn't make her switch to a smaller phone now. 2) I don't see the bending issue. Use common sense and you won't bend any of your phones. 3) I honestly am not qualified to answer this, but I have never seen a problem with my phone at all. It's great.

    As far as the 6 plus vs Note 4 debate, I have been there and done that. I have had every phone imaginable and bounced around way too much. When my upgrade came up in November I said I would pick a phone based on my need and not what "cool" things it could do. Those cool things wear off and you end up doing the same basic things on a phone regardless of it being an iPhone, Note or whatever. I made a list of those functions that really mattered. Then I asked myself what phone I thought did each of those the best. In most cases it was the iPhone. Without the availability of the big screen on the 6 plus my answer probably would have been different even though I still prefer the way iOS does certain things. I really like having the big screen. With the 6 Plus, I get both the big screen and all the features that I want for daily use.

    That is my situation. You have to figure that out for yourself. Make a choice and give it a chance. If all you do is chase the next thing coming out you will never be satisfied and unless you have unlimited income you will be broke too.
    That's exactly what I'm going through in deciding between getting a 6 Plus or a Note 4. I'm very invested in Google and all of their services. Plus I have probably at least $100+ in paid apps on Android. Also, I have about 15 movies that I have purchased or acquired from Google and I'm an All Access Music subscriber. This investment is what is holding me back a bit. I also have a Nexus Player, Roku 3, Chromecast, but no Apple TV. I know I can get my movies and music on an iPhone, but it's not as seamless. I can't get all those apps that I've bought, though. And to top it off, I have around $85 sitting in the Google Play Store as we speak. So I'm trying to decide if looking past those issues is what I should do. Typically, I use my phone for calls, texts, email, calendar, social media, blogs, news, games, videos, and music. I can do all of those things on either platform, but iOS does most of it easier and in some ways better. It's just that I would end up having quite a bit invested in both Android/Google and iOS/Apple.
    01-16-2015 03:28 PM
  22. RavenSword's Avatar
    Also, since I use a PC at home, and in many ways prefer that due to gaming, I want something that will work well with that setup. I also own a chromecast, rocku 3, but also a Apple TV and iPad 4. I'm kinda in both camps here and it's a bit of a headache.
    01-16-2015 03:36 PM
  23. cwbcpa's Avatar
    About the only thing you mention that would favor the Note 4 is the removal of the battery. I get such great battery life from my 6 Plus I honestly don't care about that like I used to. I carry a charge pack with me if I really needed it. In two months I needed it one time and that was a very unique situation.

    Please don't take offense at this next statement, but I hope you have better things to do with your time than analyze phones to death. Pick one that will allow you to do what you need to do everyday. A phone is a tool to get other things done. Unless it's your job to analyze phones, pick one and get your work done or school or whatever you have going on. Your phone choice should compliment your needs that's all there is to it. You are way over thinking this. I wish you the best in your choice. You have all the info you need from us though. I think you just need to make a choice. Good luck.


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    01-16-2015 03:39 PM
  24. anon(153966)'s Avatar
    I'd just like to mention again, the 14 day return policy with most carriers is a brilliant option. I use it often.
    An idea would be to merely buy the device that you think you'd like to have\keep for the next two years, and test ALL features that you know you'd like to use day-to-day.

    By at least the 7th-10th day, you'd have some indication of whether you'd like to keep the device, get a refund, or try another device.

    Go...
    01-16-2015 04:05 PM
  25. RavenSword's Avatar
    About the only thing you mention that would favor the Note 4 is the removal of the battery. I get such great battery life from my 6 Plus I honestly don't care about that like I used to. I carry a charge pack with me if I really needed it. In two months I needed it one time and that was a very unique situation.

    Please don't take offense at this next statement, but I hope you have better things to do with your time than analyze phones to death. Pick one that will allow you to do what you need to do everyday. A phone is a tool to get other things done. Unless it's your job to analyze phones, pick one and get your work done or school or whatever you have going on. Your phone choice should compliment your needs that's all there is to it. You are way over thinking this. I wish you the best in your choice. You have all the info you need from us though. I think you just need to make a choice. Good luck.


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    The problem is I'm really risk adverse. I try to think out how things will work with one another. Like how will the iPhone work with my other devices like PC, chromecast, roku, and etc. and how it may dictate future purchases (such as wether I feel my next computer may need to be a Mac just so I can get that integration with the iPhone. And if I then need to go all Apple from now on for other devices.)

    But your right, given what I stated my needs are I do think a 6 plus would be better. I just hope I can continue to buy other non Apple products and it doesn't become a headache.
    01-16-2015 04:11 PM
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