1. doctordwaynewilliams's Avatar
    I guess, what I don't understand is that people are saying that the 6+ is underpowered. If that's so then wouldn't the iPad air also be underpowered? It has a higher screen resolution.


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    10-13-2014 12:01 AM
  2. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    As a person who took a science course in college a long time ago...I didn't read the original post and think the iPhone is swell.
    10-13-2014 12:56 AM
  3. Stefano_B's Avatar
    I've owned my 6+ for a couple weeks now, and I can say that "sometimes" it can seem a little laggy, not too much when opening apps, but for example if you close the control center it shudders on the way down a little. On my 5s (same iOS 8.0.2) it's super smooth. Haven't tested on games etc. But from personal experience, that's all I've noticed at the moment, and hopefully things will further be ironed out with 8.1.
    10-13-2014 01:13 AM
  4. evorc's Avatar
    The "it's just a phone" statement holds no water. If that was the case, then the original post makes even less sense because, ya know, "it's just a phone."
    Dude calm down LOL. I get it your happy with your plus. That's cool, don't get mad of other's opinion.

    For the extra price of the plus, Apple should have given the plus better hardware. After all it is a bigger screen and resolution and therefore needs more resources! You are essentially paying $100 more for the larger screen that actually hurts the performance. If you count out the image stabilization which imo the 6 should have came with in the first place.

    All of this will be corrected in the 6s/6s+ I'm sure.

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    10-13-2014 01:27 AM
  5. olliegrl's Avatar
    I love when people tell you to "calm down" when you're actually not upset...I really don't think anyone is upset. Just making a point.
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    10-13-2014 02:01 AM
  6. jdhooghe's Avatar
    I know my post came off as a little strong; just had a night of drinking. For that I apologize. For those saying that we are too hard on the OP: if he wanted a calm discussion then he should have kept his insults to everyone's intelligence to himself and calmly laid out his claims and evidence. This person wrote 4+ paragraphs on the flaws of the 6+ without any backup. Engineering does not happen just on claims, this person should know better. His opinion is just that, an opinion. His claims were not supported by any evidence but just because he is a "aerospace and electrical engineer." Then he comes back and accuses people of just blindly defending Apple and plays the victim? No. That isn't how things work. If he wants a debate in a tone like he started his original post off like then I and others will bring it to him.

    Now, if he brought out that benchmark that was posted a few posts back and said, "Hey, I really do think that Apple should have increased the processor speed because we are seeing this dip in performance here." Others would have chimed in, "possibly but maybe it's because the 6+ is blowing everything up and it has to do those extra calculations and things will be smoothed out later." A calm and logical discussion. Instead the OP busted in here, foaming at the mouth and said "the 6+ sucks because I am an electrical and aerospace engineer!!!111" Anyway, good luck finding a phone for you, OP. All of us support your decision to do whatever it is you want. Windows Phone hitches a bit but for the most part it is smooth but there is a lack of apps and Microsoft support. BlackBerry is very smooth but you might have hardware issues. Android is a tossup and even my native Nexus 7 lags now.


    EDIT: I've tried making my phone lag. Do any of you have any other examples that I can try. I want to see this. Thanks!
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    10-13-2014 02:43 AM
  7. Les74's Avatar
    Dude calm down LOL. I get it your happy with your plus. That's cool, don't get mad of other's opinion.

    For the extra price of the plus, Apple should have given the plus better hardware. After all it is a bigger screen and resolution and therefore needs more resources! You are essentially paying $100 more for the larger screen that actually hurts the performance. If you count out the image stabilization which imo the 6 should have came with in the first place.

    All of this will be corrected in the 6s/6s+ I'm sure.

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    Calm down?? Hahaha!!! I'm not mad and I don't even have a 6+. You make even less sense than the OP. Are you brothers?
    10-13-2014 07:01 AM
  8. finn5975's Avatar
    I am late to the game on this thread and honestly think everything has been covered quite well at this point. But to piggyback off of what a few others mentioned, JustMe'D made a great point that using 'The iphone' as opposed to 'My iPhone' made a large impact. You make it personal to everyone here when you make a blanket statement that suggests that the phone they use and appreciate is, a joke. That is the second point. When you label the phone of choice among the users in the forum you post, a joke...rather...a JOKE, you now have established a negative connotation before you even type a single word of your actual post. You may follow up your title with paragraphs of exemplary thought and valid points, however, much of that is now lost on the audience because you offended them before they even began to read.

    So to those who feel our forums are typical in that we attack anyone who mentions a negative thought towards Apple and its products, I ask you to look around beyond this thread. We have countless examples where mature discussion does take place and folks with differing opinions peacefully coexist and complaints against the products are spoken on. Yes, this forum does have some who police against negative views, but it is the nature of social media in all forms. In this particular case, I think the thread was set up for disaster the moment that title was typed out.
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    10-13-2014 08:20 AM
  9. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    I am late to the game on this thread and honestly think everything has been covered quite well at this point. But to piggyback off of what a few others mentioned, JustMe'D made a great point that using 'The iphone' as opposed to 'My iPhone' made a large impact. You make it personal to everyone here when you make a blanket statement that suggests that the phone they use and appreciate is, a joke. That is the second point. When you label the phone of choice among the users in the forum you post, a joke...rather...a JOKE, you now have established a negative connotation before you even type a single word of your actual post. You may follow up your title with paragraphs of exemplary thought and valid points, however, much of that is now lost on the audience because you offended them before they even began to read.

    So to those who feel our forums are typical in that we attack anyone who mentions a negative thought towards Apple and its products, I ask you to look around beyond this thread. We have countless examples where mature discussion does take place and folks with differing opinions peacefully coexist and complaints against the products are spoken on. Yes, this forum does have some who police against negative views, but it is the nature of social media in all forms. In this particular case, I think the thread was set up for disaster the moment that title was typed out.
    'nuf said...
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    10-13-2014 08:38 AM
  10. qbnkelt's Avatar
    Thank you OP. Enjoy whatever device you get.

    I will file this thread alongside the op ed on the Circadian Rhythms Of the Slow Loris.
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    10-13-2014 08:54 AM
  11. pr1nce's Avatar
    I think the thread was set up for disaster the moment that title was typed out.
    This says it all. Enjoy whichever device you choose to use.
    10-13-2014 09:02 AM
  12. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    Thank you OP. Enjoy whatever device you get.

    I will file this thread alongside the op ed on the Circadian Rhythms Of the Slow Loris.
    I need a copy of that. I seem to have misplaced mine.


    Sent from my ancient but trustworthy iPhone 5
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    10-13-2014 09:07 AM
  13. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    I agree with the cooler heads here, which is just about everyone except the OP. I don't yet have a new iPhone 6/6+. But I also agree that more RAM should have been used on these new iPhones. 1 gb is barely sufficient. 1.5 gb would have been enough. Fortunately, most users are not having issues related to only 1 gb of RAM. iOS does manage RAM quite well. Better than any other platform. But I still would have gone with 1.5 gb.


    Sent from my ancient but trustworthy iPhone 5
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    10-13-2014 09:21 AM
  14. offdahglass's Avatar
    I think he can post about his experience with his phone and not be subjected to ridicule. He didn't know his issues would be what it was if he didn't buy the device first.
    10-13-2014 09:27 AM
  15. C6TX6's Avatar
    Yes it's a big joke.
    No question about it.
    The joke is getting one in a timely manner.
    AT&T ordering is a JOKE!
    That's all I have to say about that.
    10-13-2014 09:34 AM
  16. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    I think he can post about his experience with his phone and not be subjected to ridicule. He didn't know his issues would be what it was if he didn't buy the device first.
    I agree in regard to not knowing if he would experience lag issues, but I disagree in regard to the specs. The specs of the iPhone 6/6 Plus were not only rumored well in advance, but were made known during and after Apple's Keynote. Still, let's say the OP didn't watch the keynote or read about the specs. Who's fault is that? Keep in mind that the OP stated,

    "...I decided to do my own research and find out what the hell was wrong with my device, if it was really a RAM/hardware issue or straight up software."

    Well, after doing research and discovering the specs associated with the device, the OP had a choice: Keep the device or return the device. By his own admission, he opted to keep it. Having said that, it's pointless, at least in my opinion, to gripe about a device (no matter what the brand) that the OP opted to keep despite having discovered that it is does not meet his expectations. Why not return it and buy a device that clearly meets his expectations?
    Last edited by JustMe'D; 10-13-2014 at 10:47 AM.
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    10-13-2014 09:44 AM
  17. pr1nce's Avatar
    This thread makes my head hurt!
    10-13-2014 10:02 AM
  18. SprSynJn's Avatar
    This is the first time I've heard of this issue with the Plus. Is it really that bad? I've had the 5 for near two years and only noticed lag when I saw what my wife's 6 could do.
    10-13-2014 10:15 AM
  19. HankAZ's Avatar
    I think he can post about his experience with his phone and not be subjected to ridicule. He didn't know his issues would be what it was if he didn't buy the device first.
    Absolutely he can post of his experience without being subject to ridicule. But to be such a vaunted engineer, one would have thought that he would/should have done the necessary research prior to purchase. And if he actually found the iPhone 6 Plus to be as inferior as he claims, why did he keep it? Of course, as a vaunted aerospace and electrical engineer, maybe wasting over $1000 on an inferior device may not be the same magnitude of an issue as it would be for me.

    But rather than tell his story, he came in here with guns blazing calling the phone a joke. His delivery was hostile. And he was met with resistance, largely IMHO because of his method far more than his message.

    I have not experienced any noticeable lag in my iPhone 6 Plus. The OP did? Fine. I am not discounting his experience, except to say that many times it’s not what you say, as much as how you say it.
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    10-13-2014 10:33 AM
  20. qbnkelt's Avatar
    This is the first time I've heard of this issue with the Plus. Is it really that bad? I've had the 5 for near two years and only noticed lag when I saw what my wife's 6 could do.
    Don't know about the Plus but the 6 is awesome. No issues at all.


    Sent from my SEXY GORGEOUS AWESOME GOLD 128G iPhone 6
    10-13-2014 10:33 AM
  21. BlazingGold's Avatar


    Here's a good video that shows the overall speed of the iPhone 6 (not plus) put up against the Galaxy S5 and HTC one m8. It blows the other phones away and finishes an entire minute ahead of the Galaxy S5. All this with only 1GB of RAM. Point being, Apple utilizes 1GB of RAM very well. Samsung, etc can advertise their specs with processor, RAM, and camera megapixels and how they crush Apple's, but the fact of the matter is that iPhones generally still run quicker and take better photos. My issue is this : no new iPhone should run at all slower than older iPhones in simple iOS menus or native apps. Rather than working it out so that the 6+ is able to just get by with 1GB of RAM, it should have been made more future proof. Also, being $100 more than the 6, I don't think there should be trade offs in the way of screen size for the speed of the phone. Again, I've compared my iPhone 5 and 5s running iOS 7 and 8 respectively to the store's phone models (not just my own) and they both run not just quicker, but more smoothly in almost every area than the 6+. I'm positive that the 6+S will come with more RAM, but it is something that truly should have come with the 6 plus. Despite being beautiful and functional, the specs seem more made for the regular 6. The plus should obviously have been beefed up. Again, for me, it's comparing Apples to Apples and nothing else. The arguments of matching it up against another brand's phones are pointless. The iPhones to me blow away most of the other phones in so many ways
    10-13-2014 10:44 AM
  22. cardfan's Avatar
    This is the first time I've heard of this issue with the Plus. Is it really that bad? I've had the 5 for near two years and only noticed lag when I saw what my wife's 6 could do.
    Some see lag while others will insist it's the smoothest thing ever. Just like some couldn't see the difference between retina and non retina screens. It's subjective.

    I think the casual user will be happy with the Plus and not see any of these issues. Or even care.

    It took the iPad 4 coming out before the performance issues of the prior iPad really gained any traction. Then you'll have the usual reviewers proclaiming "wow I didn't realize the Plus was so slow til I got this S version"
    10-13-2014 10:49 AM
  23. CrackOne's Avatar
    Here's the thing. You should get what you want and not criticize others for their choices. I think that Apple products appeal to a slightly different audience than Android does. Are Apple products cutting edge? Probably not. On the whole though, Apple's user experience is just more polished and worry-free than Android, even if you can't as easily tweak the device's finer nuances. For some people, that is worth the extra money that Apple charges for its products, for others it is not. If Apple's over-controlling nature bothers you, buy something else. It's not that big of a deal.
    10-13-2014 10:59 AM
  24. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Absolutely he can post of his experience without being subject to ridicule. But to be such a vaunted engineer, one would have thought that he would/should have done the necessary research prior to purchase. And if he actually found the iPhone 6 Plus to be as inferior as he claims, why did he keep it? Of course, as a vaunted aerospace and electrical engineer, maybe wasting over $1000 on an inferior device may not be the same magnitude of an issue as it would be for me.

    But rather than tell his story, he came in here with guns blazing calling the phone a joke. His delivery was hostile. And he was met with resistance, largely IMHO because of his method far more than his message.

    I have not experienced any noticeable lag in my iPhone 6 Plus. The OP did? Fine. I am not discounting his experience, except to say that many times it’s not what you say, as much as how you say it.
    In addition to what HankAZ stated, oftentimes people are quick to defend an OP's right to his or her opinion. Yet, those same people seem to forget that those who respond also have a right to an opinion. We often see responses like, "well, the OP was just stating facts". Well, the people who responded were "just stating facts", but somehow, their facts aren't welcomed. We don't care what your device of choice is. We don't care if people hate the iPhone, like the iPhone, despise Apple or like Apple. To each his or her own. Having said that, if someone seeks out a forum that primarily caters to people who enjoy using Apple products, and then make a conscious decision to create a thread in that forum (the subject matter is irrelevant), he or she should expect to get a response, and I have no doubt that a response is expected. Okay, I'm done...
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    10-13-2014 11:16 AM
  25. nikkisharif's Avatar
    I'm still waiting for my 6+ to ship to but, but that ram issue is something I experienced on my iPad AIR.

    Is anyone else experiencing this problem too?

    Sometimes going from safari to photos app to a photo editing app, then back to safari causes safari to refresh the page.


    Nexus ONE
    I have a 6+ & GS5 and the page refreshes on my Galaxy also. Not sure why but it's not a huge deal since it renders very fast plus I don't browse very often on my phones.
    10-13-2014 11:21 AM
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