1. Haseeb Rehman's Avatar
    I kind of agree with OP on some points. But as said by others, iPhone 6+ is no slouch. It is not a laggy device neither feels slow as Android. Maybe you just need to restore as fresh and lock the auto-rotation. Maybe that will help you cool off. Maybe such a simple thing will make your phone work flawless, as it does for others. We here love iPhones and we are not stupid. When I'll think that my iPhone needs bigger processor and larger ram which Apple is not providing, I'll switch. But this is not going to happen anytime soon if Apple does its job like its doing now. If you think Apple lacks ram, get another smartphone with 2,3 Gigs of ram and maybe that will make you happy. Please stop whining and enjoy your phone for once.
    10-12-2014 02:57 PM
  2. iTechHead's Avatar
    CNET would be a better choice. Probably the most anti-Apple site around aside from Android Central.
    You're kidding right ? They have apple articles up almost every day.
    10-12-2014 02:59 PM
  3. Haseeb Rehman's Avatar
    Your logic is flawed. Consider that, every year, the new iPhone is one of the fastest, if not the fastest phones on the market. Specs be damned.

    Apply that to your airplane engine example. If every year, the new engines were the most fuel efficient on the market, what does it matter if they're using the best technology and materials?

    Yes, Apple could use more ram and a higher clocked quad core processor and participate in the spec war... But considering they're always at the front of the pack in terms of performance, and despite your experiences, for most people, the OS experience has always been smooth, what would be the point?

    Example: if you put two devices in front of me: one is running some 3.4gHz 8-core processor and 16gb of ram and has a 4k display and 50mp camera... And the other is a 1.0gHz single core, with 1gb of ram, a 720p screen, and 5mp camera, based on specs, you'd choose the first device, yes? But what if the second device was just as fast and smooth or even faster, and because of image processing takes just as good of a picture? What do all the specs matter now? Does the beefy specs on paper make you sleep better at night? Because me? Me, I'd be mad at my spec warrior phone that gets slapped around by an "inferior" device.

    That's like a 5'2" 140lbs guy jumping in the ring with a 6'0" 200lbs heavy weight boxer and going toe to toe, round after round... Who should feel worse? The small guy with the weaker stats? Or the big guy who should easily win, but doesn't?
    I sir, salute you for your amazing examples.
    10-12-2014 03:00 PM
  4. Xm_jdm's Avatar
    And hence you went out and stood in line to get one.
    Hank didn't say that.
    10-12-2014 03:01 PM
  5. taz323's Avatar
    Hank didn't say that.
    copied quote from wrong post.
    10-12-2014 03:03 PM
  6. taz323's Avatar
    This is why Apple will never step up, this is why we will not develop more fuel efficient airplanes. Because people will still fly in them, Apple wont add specs because people will keep buying their iPhone like hungry dogs and Apple knows it.
    And hence you stood in line to get one.
    10-12-2014 03:05 PM
  7. Xm_jdm's Avatar
    The iPhone 6 Plus is a JOKE. And here I tell you why.-image.jpg

    I think we've fallen victim here.
    10-12-2014 03:05 PM
  8. HankAZ's Avatar
    copied quote from wrong post.
    No harm. I preorderd and didn’t have to stand in line for it. But I would have.
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    10-12-2014 03:08 PM
  9. taz323's Avatar
    No harm. I preorderd and didn’t have to stand in line for it. But I would have.
    No doubt, me also. Was lucky and waited a day and in out in 20 mins with my 6.
    10-12-2014 03:31 PM
  10. Hiri89's Avatar
    Omg i love dramaaaaa ahhaha i cant wait to get home to read it all. You came to the wrong forum dude hahahha it cracked me up
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    10-12-2014 03:32 PM
  11. BlazingGold's Avatar
    I'm going to answer this not as an "fanboy", nor as someone that is against Apple. I'll respond only with opinions and information about the actual devices. Too many approaches are based on having to stand behind a device or bash it, which is silly.

    Anyway, I've had the iPhone 3G, iPhone 4, iPad 3, iPhone 5, iPhone 5s and now the 6+. The one thing that I've loved about Apple devices that has kept me coming back for more is that they do what they do well. They do not need numbers to back up their performance, and they routinely outperform other devices that at first glance and on paper should blow them away easily. Here are my experiences, likes/dislikes and concerns with each of the devices.

    3G : I'll spend the least amount of time on this one because it is the oldest device. My first iOS device and I was very impressed. The operation was fluent and reliable, I loved the App Store and the layout of ios.

    Iphone 4 : from the time I bought it, it basically functioned just as well as the time which I stopped using it. Regardless of specs, etc, the device ran smoothly. The retina display, although not nearly the same display quality that we have now, was incredible at the time of the release and was ahead of its time.

    Iphone 5: it really improved everything from the previous iPhone and did it all better. Buttery smooth from the moment of purchase up until I stopped using it nearly 2 years later. Update after update, there were small bugs, but for the most part, this thing was built to last.

    iPad 3 : my first and only venture into iPad territory. The first one with retina display. From the moment I bought it, although I loved the larger screen (which brought me in) and retina display, quite simply it lagged. Pulling up the App Store, loading apps.....it lagged. Speaking to Apple reps, supposedly a software update would fix it in the near future, so I stuck with it. Several months later (not the usual year), they released the new iPad with retina display, which basically took the place of this one ! The iPad 3 was discontinued and basically forgotten. I contacted Apple and there was nothing they could do about the $850 I just spent on it to upgrade me to the new iPad 4. They could offer a few hundred dollars to recycle it. After each iOS update that followed, it got slows and slower. It not takes several seconds to load up a simple program. All in all, it's my own fault that I did not wait, but who would have thought a new model would be released just several months after this one to correct the problems which Apple would not really admit to having ? The processor/RAM was not fully capable of supporting its new retina display. The iPad 4 beefed that up and made it capable

    iPhone 5s : quite simply, all that the iPhone did, but better, Again, having 0 issues with the 5, the release of the 5s was not a "fix" to the 5, but merely just a refresh. Anyone with a 5 should not feel like their device is getting replaced by this, but just the usual annual update. Fingerprint reader, nicer camera, better processor. However, the 5 was still VERY VERY capable of running just about anything without any lag.

    iPhone 6+ : here is the most controversial one I guess. First and foremost, I love the increased size. I love the display (quite simply, it's beautiful). That being said, from the moment of purchase and restoring it from backup, it lagged. After doing an iOS restore through iTunes, it still lags. I enjoy the phone and all that it offers, however quite honestly I am a bit afraid that it could be another iPad 3 situation, though maybe not as extreme. From experience as you see with all of my purchased iOS devices, they all ran perfectly out of box except 2, the iPad 3 and iPhone 6+. having decided to keep the 6+ and not swap it or wait for the 6+s, I can only blame myself should it be hardware that is causing this lag and not software. Looking at it with a completely open mind, the fact that it runs the same processor with the same amount of RAM for a much bigger screen, is concerning and could very well be a reason for this lag. Some of the crashes I would think could be attributed to iOS software issues. But right now, my iPhone 5 and 5s both run considerably quicker than my iPhone 6s. The 5 still is running iOS 7 and the 5s is running iOS 8 . The very fact that the 5s took in iOS 8 without any lag whatsoever and the 6+ has considerable lag is without a doubt a concern.

    I am enjoying the phone, however there is that huge elephant in the room that I can't really ignore. I hope it really gets ironed out. If it doesn't, I can't blame anyone but myself anyway! Although I do wonder why when releasing devices with a better screen, why Apple would not know by now that they have to beef up specs to support it as in given examples. From experience, aside from the iPad 3 and iPhone 6+, each iPhone release has ran out of the box better than the one before it. This is putting bendgate and hair gate aside, because I think they are loads of ****. This is entirely hardware concerns in my eyes. I think after a while, we just get used to the speed of our devices. However, being able to use my iPhone's released years before this one and having them run quicker in virtually everything I can test, it is pretty frustrating. OP, I do wonder though, have you returned the 6+? If not, why?
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    10-12-2014 03:42 PM
  12. Les74's Avatar
    You're kidding right ? They have apple articles up almost every day.
    They bash them consistently....as do the people that post on there.
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    10-12-2014 04:00 PM
  13. zerog46's Avatar
    Way to long. If you don't like it take it back.
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    10-12-2014 04:12 PM
  14. atlas_vaughn's Avatar
    I'm not experiencing any of the problems you mention. Also, you should be aware that apps which have not been optimized for the 6 Plus are scaled. This is not an issue of hardware, quite the opposite, it is an intentional screen scaling implementation. I do not have a problem with volume either. On the 5s I did but only after a years worth of use in a very dusty environment. Occasionally I clean the speakers on the 5s and can hear them just fine. With the 6 Plus I purchased a case which helps prevent dust getting into my phone (Pelican Voyager) which I love. As for the rest of your claims I find evidence of the contrary and nothing to support your "testing". Should you be brazen enough to post again within this forum please attempt to convey your opinions in an appropriate manner and site your facts with references, links, etc.


    Sent using mental telepathy
    10-12-2014 04:33 PM
  15. Sekelani Zwambila's Avatar
    Oky doky. This brother took a dump in our back yard! Bad idea mate( Australian accent)
    Last edited by Sekelani Zwambila; 10-12-2014 at 06:44 PM.
    10-12-2014 04:41 PM
  16. the_tech_eater's Avatar
    CNET would be a better choice. Probably the most anti-Apple site around aside from Android Central.
    Yeah I agree.
    10-12-2014 05:12 PM
  17. Joelist's Avatar
    You guys realize the odds are high the OP is a t*** right? Low post number and long rant are sure signs. Plus he claims technological expertise but his statements display a distinct lack of the same. Likely gt***.
    10-12-2014 05:51 PM
  18. the_tech_eater's Avatar
    You're kidding right ? They have apple articles up almost every day.
    But they are also paid by the shenanigan company to give them good coverage and apple bad coverage. i.e. Naming the S4 "the everybody's phone".
    10-12-2014 05:58 PM
  19. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    You guys realize the odds are high the OP is a t*** right? Low post number and long rant are sure signs. Plus he claims technological expertise but his statements display a distinct lack of the same. Likely gt***.
    Whether the OP is or not, it's okay. Threads like this will always spring up here and there....
    calebt likes this.
    10-12-2014 05:59 PM
  20. iTechHead's Avatar
    But they are also paid by the shenanigan company to give them good coverage and apple bad coverage. i.e. Naming the S4 "the everybody's phone".
    Wow never would've thought CNET was apart of the apple hate crowd, But now that you mention that you do have a point. Only good thing about them is the Apple Byte segments they have.
    the_tech_eater likes this.
    10-12-2014 06:08 PM
  21. evorc's Avatar
    Wow you guys need to calm down. He is just expressing his opinion. I'm sure the plus specs is more than enough for most people. But I do agree with him that it should have came with better specs and after all it's $100 more than the 6. For most non-technical people this will not be an issue. Here is a good analysis of the FPS:

    http://iphone.appleinsider.com/artic...fps-benchmarks

    I am definitely an Apple fan boy but it doesn't mean I have to agree with every Apple's decision.


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    10-12-2014 06:24 PM
  22. Les74's Avatar
    Wow you guys need to calm down. He is just expressing his opinion. I'm sure the plus specs is more than enough for most people. But I do agree with him that it should have came with better specs and after all it's $100 more than the 6. For most non-technical people this will not be an issue. Here is a good analysis of the FPS:

    http://iphone.appleinsider.com/artic...fps-benchmarks

    I am definitely an Apple fan boy but it doesn't mean I have to agree with every Apple's decision.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    There's a difference between expressing one's opinion and crapping all over something. His "opinion" is pretty much ridiculous anyway.
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    10-12-2014 06:31 PM
  23. tekjunkie28's Avatar
    I don't really see where 2 gb of ram will help when it phones already give ppl the smoothest experience ever on a mobile device. It's like a pc, going from 8 to 16 GB ram just makes ppl feel better. It doesn't make the pc faster *unless you open tons of programs which is pointless to run in the background on mobile device unless directly specified to*.

    I find the OP post mostly a mute point. I enjoy both platforms but I absolutely love the 6plus. It's soooo much faster and feels great in have and in-use.

    On a size note of performance the 6plus is still faster.
    10-12-2014 06:33 PM
  24. evorc's Avatar
    There's a difference between expressing one's opinion and crapping all over something. His "opinion" is pretty much ridiculous anyway.
    You guys are way too defensive the minute someone says one negative thing about an iPhone. It's just a phone lol SMH.


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    10-12-2014 06:35 PM
  25. cardfan's Avatar
    I agree with the op for most of what he says. Not the joke part of course.

    But here's the thing. I kinda loved the iPad 3 for the year I had it. It was a killer screen for the time. And so is the iPhone plus...compared to previous iPhones. It only has to last another 11 months. Then I get the S version.

    Back to specs, yes they're important to me. I won't brush that aside and deny that. But the only thing I can do is wait for Apple to improve it.

    Because going to an oem provided bloatware over android special isn't really an option. And so bringing up what any oem android makers specs is just meaningless to me. It takes more to run that bloat and still have it lag much more than any year old iPhone. That's the real joke.

    More ram would be great for the plus. A screen running the resolution it actually renders at would be great. I look forward to it. But that isn't the iPhone 6 Plus. I guess I'll just have to struggle along with the iPhone boasting the best screen its ever had along with killer battery life and camera.

    The lag is there in spots though I doubt many notice it. The refreshing does get annoying. But I accepted that during the trial period as the larger, high quality screen just trumped it.

    Fwiw, the iPad mini wins the award for slow imo. The iPad 3 at least had payoff via the first large high res tablet screen. But really whatcha going to do? Complain to apple? Start a revolt? Good luck. This isn't anything new. Apple caters to mainstream. Apple loves their profit margin. It's something techies have long accepted.
    Easycure1974 likes this.
    10-12-2014 06:53 PM
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