1. Hiri89's Avatar
    Ain't this scary?-image.jpg

    The third keyboards accessing to everything you type. Is this even secure enough to trust them? I'm curious because it feels a little intimidating.....

    They make it sound like a bad thing. It's what I perceive tho.
    09-28-2014 02:14 AM
  2. jdhooghe's Avatar
    People asked for it and people need to accept the responsibilities It is very much a concern though and I'm glad apple, at least, made you input passwords strictly from the apple keyboard. All sensitive info should be inputted by the apple keyboard imo though
    Last edited by jdhooghe; 09-28-2014 at 04:22 AM. Reason: Can't grammar
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    09-28-2014 04:20 AM
  3. netnative's Avatar
    Yes, it is scary. I deleted it. Notice also that it is "free." I have read that if the app is free you are the product being sold.

    Ain't this scary?-imageuploadedbyimore-forums1411903548.585031.jpg
    Last edited by netnative; 10-14-2014 at 06:09 AM.
    09-28-2014 07:27 AM
  4. taz323's Avatar
    I'm very happy with Apples keyboard.
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    09-28-2014 07:44 AM
  5. anaphora68's Avatar
    It's a standard warning that's existed on Android for years.

    When you give access to a third party keyboard, they have to disclose this kind of information.

    There is the possibility that your data can be hijacked, and yes, you are granting system level access to a piece of software. It's assumption of risk.

    It's legalese for saying that if you do it, and a third party steals your data, Apple is not liable.

    Honestly, what do you think Evernote does? They have full access to whatever notes you put up on their site. Always have, always will.
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    09-28-2014 07:59 AM
  6. netnative's Avatar
    It's a standard warning that's existed on Android for years.

    When you give access to a third party keyboard, they have to disclose this kind of information.

    There is the possibility that your data can be hijacked, and yes, you are granting system level access to a piece of software. It's assumption of risk.

    It's legalese for saying that if you do it, and a third party steals your data, Apple is not liable.

    Honestly, what do you think Evernote does? They have full access to whatever notes you put up on their site. Always have, always will.
    The difference is that it is unnecessary to send data outside the device for a keyboard app to predict text. It is another matter if the user wants an app which is installed in several devices to have access to the same data. But the developer of SwiftKey is not giving us the choice. And Apple is OK with it.
    09-28-2014 08:09 AM
  7. substring's Avatar
    I don't know about other 3rd party keyboard, but for SwiftKey, I have been using it since it was a paid app a few years ago on my Android devices. I have no problem whatsoever. We probably should worry more about all those health apps that are monitoring our health. You are willingly give away your heart rate and your exercise routine information. You don't know who they will sell those information to. That is far more scary.
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    09-28-2014 08:31 AM
  8. EmceeGeek's Avatar
    I'm happy with Apple's keyboard. Good thing I've never liked swype. This is the reason Apple has never used outside things to correspond with their devices, unless it's apps and we download it at our own risk. I'm surprised they allowed keyboards.
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    09-28-2014 09:23 AM
  9. Hiri89's Avatar
    I don't know about other 3rd party keyboard, but for SwiftKey, I have been using it since it was a paid app a few years ago on my Android devices. I have no problem whatsoever. We probably should worry more about all those health apps that are monitoring our health. You are willingly give away your heart rate and your exercise routine information. You don't know who they will sell those information to. That is far more scary.
    Couldn't agree more. When I got an app for keeping progress of my health and saw everything they asked for I deleted it. There was no way to use the app if the GPS wasn't on. Scary!!!! It would even count how many steps you have done throughout the day and your sleeping habits.

    I would just wait for Apple to come up something I can really trust.
    09-28-2014 11:01 AM
  10. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Call me old fashioned, but I didn't find anything appealing about any of the 3rd party keyboards...nor the new keyboard functions in iOS 8 really from Apple themselves. I was 100% satisfied with the way the keyboard was...this stuff just reaffirms my choice.
    09-28-2014 11:19 AM
  11. anaphora68's Avatar
    Apple uses the data from your phone for its own diagnostics. It's buried inside the iTunes user agreement, for one.

    If you use a smart phone, every thing that you do is tracked, stored, and analyzed by your mobile carrier, Apple, and the app developer.

    No one is drilling down to the user level and seeing how many steps you took at x,y,z location and time. App developers collect the data to analyze general trends and figure out how people use their software. It's how features get added and developed.

    It's not a matter of trust. Apple has been doing this for years. Microsoft was the only company that was truly honest about what them storing your emails on their servers meant, and it got them in a boatload of trouble. But, Google AND Apple analyze emails that come in to your inbox. How do you think you get tailored ads, app recommendations, etc?
    09-28-2014 11:22 AM
  12. Hiri89's Avatar
    Apple uses the data from your phone for its own diagnostics. It's buried inside the iTunes user agreement, for one.

    If you use a smart phone, every thing that you do is tracked, stored, and analyzed by your mobile carrier, Apple, and the app developer.

    No one is drilling down to the user level and seeing how many steps you took at x,y,z location and time. App developers collect the data to analyze general trends and figure out how people use their software. It's how features get added and developed.

    It's not a matter of trust. Apple has been doing this for years. Microsoft was the only company that was truly honest about what them storing your emails on their servers meant, and it got them in a boatload of trouble. But, Google AND Apple analyze emails that come in to your inbox. How do you think you get tailored ads, app recommendations, etc?

    I read an article about the fbi worried because of the way apple was doing everything encrypted on iOS 8.

    That gave me a little bit of peace. but there's no way I'm letting some random company I don even know of to have everything I type. I don't see why they want to keep in record everything I type. It's non of their business. I always have my location settings off and don't use google for that reason.
    09-28-2014 11:33 AM
  13. Designed4Him's Avatar
    I had swift key and deleted it because I didn't like the keyboard. I love the Apple keyboard. I don't know about the health apps because I don't use any of them!
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    09-28-2014 01:42 PM
  14. trebor8806's Avatar
    Ain't? What's that?
    09-28-2014 03:11 PM
  15. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    I had no problem using SwiftKey without the cloud services. Doesn't scare me at all.

    I went back to the Apple keyboard because my biggest issue was the fact that I was typing on a cramped keyboard. Then the 6 Plus came along.
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    09-28-2014 03:43 PM
  16. Hiri89's Avatar
    Ain't? What's that?
    Hi Felicia

    A word I use with my friends in the hood where I live.
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    09-28-2014 04:02 PM
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    The third keyboards accessing to everything you type. Is this even secure enough to trust them? I'm curious because it feels a little intimidating.....

    They make it sound like a bad thing. It's what I perceive tho.
    They have been doing that a for a long time now... Look at all the android keyboards... They ask for the same permissions
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    09-28-2014 04:16 PM
  18. olliegrl's Avatar
    exactly. iphone users who have been exclusively iphone over the years are prolly gonna freak out about it, but those who have used androids know it's standard. when you open your device up to a third party developer, these are the risks you take...which is why apple was so slow on allowing third party apps to be a thing.

    it makes me laugh that some iphone users have been begging for third party access for years..and now that it's here they're crying about the permissions they have to give. pick one guys.
    09-28-2014 05:36 PM
  19. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    I'm not concerned with the 3rd party keyboards. Many apps request use of many things and can see a lot. Several use my microphone. So what? I trust SwiftKey and a few others. I like using SwiftKey for the dark keyboard. That's really the only reason. The stock keyboard is great otherwise.


    Sent from my ancient but trustworthy iPhone 5
    09-28-2014 05:50 PM
  20. BlazingGold's Avatar
    I prefer Apple's keyboard. Works much smoother and doesn't crash
    09-28-2014 05:52 PM
  21. jdhooghe's Avatar
    I've been using swiftkey and I think I've had more mistakes on it than my traditional apple keyboard. I think I reverted to believing it was better than it actually was once I stopped using android
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    09-29-2014 02:20 AM
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    The third keyboards accessing to everything you type. Is this even secure enough to trust them? I'm curious because it feels a little intimidating.....

    They make it sound like a bad thing. It's what I perceive tho.
    It is a big thing,this is why I am trying to keep a third party apps that wants access to everything to a minimum,or usually i`m trying to avoid them,and what`s wrong with apple keyboard?
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    09-29-2014 04:08 PM
  23. Spencerdl's Avatar
    I'm not comfortable with "all access" third party keyboards, so I just use the Apple keyboard and I'm happy with it. This works for ME.
    09-29-2014 04:25 PM
  24. Hiri89's Avatar
    It is a big thing,this is why I am trying to keep a third party apps that wants access to everything to a minimum,or usually i`m trying to avoid them,and what`s wrong with apple keyboard?
    i just wanted to know all the hype about the swipe thing lol

    id say is faster than the stock keyboard but I'm not letting those apps get all i type... like wtf why would they need all of that anyways
    09-29-2014 04:32 PM
  25. Illustrator Joe's Avatar
    i just wanted to know all the hype about the swipe thing lol

    id say is faster than the stock keyboard but I'm not letting those apps get all i type... like wtf why would they need all of that anyways
    Some people swear by the swype feature. But for me it isn't faster. Personally I pick something like Swiftkey over stock because of it's insane ability to correct my mistakes. I can type away very very fast and make what would be gibberish and it gets it correct 95% of the time. But you have to remember I have used the keyboard for a very long time and it has learned my trends and commonly used words.
    09-29-2014 04:59 PM
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