1. C6TX6's Avatar
    TW lag and appearance can be "fixed" by installing Nova launcher.
    I don't like the white dialer though. Fixing that is possible by extracting it from the international version and overwriting APKs, root access required.

    Never had a (signal) issue with my unlocked Note 3 (bought from TMobile and unlocked to use with ATT).
    Of course I flashed modems that were better suited for ATT.

    Sense is good (HTC One M8) and Viper 3.0 is the best rom to use.
    Blazing fast device.
    10-22-2014 08:10 PM
  2. Designed4Him's Avatar
    TW lag and appearance can be "fixed" by installing Nova launcher.
    I don't like the white dialer though. Fixing that is possible by extracting it from the international version and overwriting APKs, root access required.

    Never had an issue with my unlocked Note 3 (bought from TMobile and unlocked to use with ATT).
    Of course I flashed modems that were better suited for ATT.
    But who wants to install a new launcher or root a phone just to make it work.
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    10-22-2014 08:12 PM
  3. doctordwaynewilliams's Avatar
    But who wants to install a new launcher or root a phone just to make it work.
    My phone works just fine. So did my Note 3 and my Note 2 and my Note 1.

    Written by the mighty S-pen of my Samsung Galaxy Note 4!
    10-22-2014 08:28 PM
  4. 21stNow's Avatar
    I don't think that I will count as a refugee because I will use the Note 4 along side the iPhone 6 Plus. Even though I only use it occasionally, I couldn't see giving up my S Pen right now.
    10-22-2014 08:44 PM
  5. C6TX6's Avatar
    But who wants to install a new launcher or root a phone just to make it work.
    I cannot use any Android phone for long that's not rooted and customized. Been that way forever.

    Thing is root or alternative launcher is not required to make it work [sic]. But installing a launcher is quick and painless and makes a TW rom much smoother IMHO. Rooting outside of using a click app exploit (ex. towelroot) isn't so bad. But failing those it does require some technical knowledge.

    I do JB iOS devices just so I can block annoying ads. They do nothing but waste data and some make apps unusable. I have no problem paying for full versions but if they throw full screen video ads with no option to close them forcing me to FC the app then I don't support them!
    10-22-2014 09:02 PM
  6. doctordwaynewilliams's Avatar
    So, I just received my iPhone 6 Plus and I'm taking it through the paces now against my Note 4.

    Written by the mighty S-pen of my Samsung Galaxy Note 4!
    10-23-2014 01:32 PM
  7. cruiz1022's Avatar
    Every time I take a screenshot I have a habit of reaching for the S Pen that's not there anymore lol. But I love my 6 Plus.


    Honestly though, if it wasn't for the lag in texting with groups and how smooth iMessage is... I would have gotten the Note 4.
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    10-23-2014 02:46 PM
  8. doctordwaynewilliams's Avatar
    Every time I take a screenshot I have a habit of reaching for the S Pen that's not there anymore lol. But I love my 6 Plus.


    Honestly though, if it wasn't for the lag in texting with groups and how smooth iMessage is... I would have gotten the Note 4.
    When I got the Note 4 last Friday the phone was super fast to me. When I received my plus in the mail today I was shocked to find that the iPhone is faster. In just about everything it does its faster. However, the camera on the Note is better.

    Written by the mighty S-pen of my Samsung Galaxy Note 4!
    10-23-2014 02:49 PM
  9. Hiri89's Avatar
    When I got the Note 4 last Friday the phone was super fast to me. When I received my plus in the mail today I was shocked to find that the iPhone is faster. In just about everything it does its faster. However, the camera on the Note is better.

    Written by the mighty S-pen of my Samsung Galaxy Note 4!
    Omg i know. Ive seen some videos on YouTube. That camera is awesome. Its like devil is inside of it. I was amazed it has better camera than the iphone plus.
    10-23-2014 09:48 PM
  10. Stefano_B's Avatar
    Omg i know. Ive seen some videos on YouTube. That camera is awesome. Its like devil is inside of it. I was amazed it has better camera than the iphone plus.
    Now, the Note 4 has a great camera, for sure. However, considering it "better" than the iPhone is pushing it (imho). The iPhone camera does better in low light conditions, and doesn't need perfect lighting to achieve great shots. iPhone's camera does an amazing job (best of all) in all scenarios, whereas other devices need optimal lighting, etc to excel. iPhone's camera produces best color reproduction (if you are into photography it means a lot) out of all. But again, that's all from personal experience and a subjective point of view.
    10-23-2014 11:01 PM
  11. doctordwaynewilliams's Avatar
    Now, the Note 4 has a great camera, for sure. However, considering it "better" than the iPhone is pushing it (imho). The iPhone camera does better in low light conditions, and doesn't need perfect lighting to achieve great shots. iPhone's camera does an amazing job (best of all) in all scenarios, whereas other devices need optimal lighting, etc to excel. iPhone's camera produces best color reproduction (if you are into photography it means a lot) out of all. But again, that's all from personal experience and a subjective point of view.
    That's fair. But yesterday I took a photo of the same object with my Note 4 and the iPhone 6 Plus in really good lighting and the picture that the Note 4 took was a lot better. Obviously I didn't test out the cameras in other situations. But from what I did see, it was better. The only hesitation that I have in my very unscientific testing is that the screen in the Note 4 is sharper. So when I compared the pictures I had taken, I looked at the picture the iPhone took on the iPhone and the picture the Note 4 took in the Note 4. Having a sharper screen may have made the difference in how the photo looked.


    Sent from my 128 GB, Space Grey iPhone 6 Plus using Tapatalk
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    10-24-2014 05:10 AM
  12. jdhooghe's Avatar
    I've been thinking about buying a second hand note 3 to see if I like it. My GS4 went back the day after I got it so I'm not holding much hope. The new nexus devices are just as much as iPads and I just got rid of my mini because my plus is plenty big so I can't justify paying for one. Maybe a cheap Google play edition moto phone for Android five since my Nexus 7 is on its last limb
    10-24-2014 06:12 AM
  13. doctordwaynewilliams's Avatar
    I've been thinking about buying a second hand note 3 to see if I like it. My GS4 went back the day after I got it so I'm not holding much hope. The new nexus devices are just as much as iPads and I just got rid of my mini because my plus is plenty big so I can't justify paying for one. Maybe a cheap Google play edition moto phone for Android five since my Nexus 7 is on its last limb
    Why do you want an Android device? If you already have a plus, and you don't need a tablet anymore, what experience are you looking to have?


    Sent from my 128 GB, Space Grey iPhone 6 Plus using Tapatalk
    10-24-2014 06:23 AM
  14. jdhooghe's Avatar
    Why do you want an Android device? If you already have a plus, and you don't need a tablet anymore, what experience are you looking to have?


    Sent from my 128 GB, Space Grey iPhone 6 Plus using Tapatalk
    Something new. I want to see what everyone who uses android sees. Every time I use an android device though it feels like it is a flashy outside with a rotten core. Like I continually have to watch it otherwise it will get out of hand and start doing something I don't want it to do. I have to install detectors and monitors and check up on it all the time. I feel like I have to work more for it than it for me. People come up to me all the time and say android is awesome...Samsung is awesome, "here, look at all these cool features" but I just don't see it. I'm like Mulder on X-Files...I want to believe but every time I use one I am left wanting when people say I shouldn't be. Any Note refugees? Will you miss the stylus?-imageuploadedbytapatalk1414148352.044422.jpg

    The above is my Nexus 7 that I just rooted in the hope that the stuck screen that you see, the lag and the crashing apps will stop with a new ROM. This is pure android. Why is it getting stuck like this? Do people not have similar experiences? Am I just very unlucky? If people have similar experiences, why do they support this? It's like using 56k when fiber is available. Not only are there software issues but the thing won't even turn on until it is fully 80 percent charged about. Every android device I have had and every android device my friends and family have had have problem after problem. If it's just me, the probability of that happening is extremely small.

    Ultimately it's like people keep coming up to you at a boring party and asking you why you're not having fun. You start feeling like you are missing out and something is wrong with you and in this case, maybe you're just not trying the right device
    10-24-2014 07:24 AM
  15. 21stNow's Avatar
    Ultimately it's like people keep coming up to you at a boring party and asking you why you're not having fun. You start feeling like you are missing out and something is wrong with you and in this case, maybe you're just not trying the right device
    The thing is that different people have different wants, needs, ergonomics and levels of patience. If iOS works for you, Android may never work for you. There's nothing wrong with that. I say this as someone who repeatedly tries other mobile operating systems, too, and realizes that they don't work for me. The difference is that you seem very close to hating Android versus I just don't think that two of the other platforms are for me. Don't try to force yourself to like something. That just takes the fun out of the phones and tablets.
    10-24-2014 11:24 AM
  16. Hiri89's Avatar
    Now, the Note 4 has a great camera, for sure. However, considering it "better" than the iPhone is pushing it (imho). The iPhone camera does better in low light conditions, and doesn't need perfect lighting to achieve great shots. iPhone's camera does an amazing job (best of all) in all scenarios, whereas other devices need optimal lighting, etc to excel. iPhone's camera produces best color reproduction (if you are into photography it means a lot) out of all. But again, that's all from personal experience and a subjective point of view.
    yea, i just saw the comparison on cnet videos. idk.. maybe the guy didnt use the same light to take the pics idk. I might be wrong tho. Maybe ill need to watch more videos haha
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    10-24-2014 11:08 PM
  17. Stefano_B's Avatar
    yea, i just saw the comparison on cnet videos. idk.. maybe the guy didnt use the same light to take the pics idk. I might be wrong tho. Maybe ill need to watch more videos haha
    It's all good man.. Whatever works for you is what counts. If you like the Note's shots Better, that's what matters. Either phone takes great shots.
    10-25-2014 12:10 AM
  18. C6TX6's Avatar
    My biggest problem with Samsung's higher MP shooters is over aggressive post processing on the images. Images taken in low light/indoors look too much like an oil painting. What good is an image with twice the pixels if the overall appearance at 1X (viewed on a PC/Mac) looks mottled! I don't like it at all!

    I'd much rather have a lower resolution image that actually looks better at a 1X crop.

    I have an original Canon Rebel with a 6.3MP sensor. Pictures taken with that blow away any smartphone. Obviously sensor size plays a big deal here.

    Oh and I ran AOSP on my Note 3 that had an option to remove all processing and even output raw. Pictures looked grainy for sure however when I applied noise reduction in Photoshop the finished product looked so much better.

    Most will immediately discredit any raw output on these sensors because of physical limits. The iphone camera and software does a remarkable job taking into consideration of sensor limits and processing to make it more eye friendly. There's no denying it's the best 8MP phone shooter out there.
    10-26-2014 10:43 AM
  19. jamal0810's Avatar
    I think I might miss a little for things like quick screen shots and crops/editing or for easy swipe texting.

    For my first three days with my 6 plus I found myself reaching for it but after a few weeks it's no longer an issue.

    I wasn't necessarily disappointed with Samsung but I finally decided to give Apple a try when they came out with the large screen and I haven't regretted it since. The customization on android is cool but not necessary and not as reliable as iOS
    10-26-2014 12:00 PM
  20. doctordwaynewilliams's Avatar
    I can tell you that I miss the s-pen. I really was digging writing all the time as my primary method of input. It was a lot more accurate then thumb typing and even typing the traditional way on my iPad. Especially when I was doing work. Like someone said on a the Note 4, when you are taking notes at work and using the S-pen, it looks like you are actually working. If you are thumb typing on your phone or iPad it looks like you are texting or updating your Facebook status.


    Sent from my iPad Air using Tapatalk
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    10-27-2014 07:03 AM
  21. Speedygi's Avatar
    I largely love the stock Android experience so I don't think I will ever go Galaxy Note 4, but if I had a choice between it and an iPhone 6 plus, the iPhone is going to come away the winner.
    10-27-2014 07:11 AM
  22. doctordwaynewilliams's Avatar
    I largely love the stock Android experience so I don't think I will ever go Galaxy Note 4, but if I had a choice between it and an iPhone 6 plus, the iPhone is going to come away the winner.
    I can certainly understand this. The iPhone 6 Plus is a remarkable device. I did, however, choose to return my iPhone 6 Plus in favor of the Note 4. I'm not going to get into why I think he Note 4 is better or anything like that because it would be highly subjective and the truth is that I could easily be happy with the iPhone 6 Plus.

    Scribbled from the mighty pen of my Galaxy Note 4!
    11-16-2014 07:24 AM
  23. Ledsteplin's Avatar
    I've seen new ones that look almost as fine tipped as a ball point pen. Haven't used then though.
    I want one like that for Photoshop work. I've seen them with very fine points. I have a combo ball point pen with a stylus on the other end. But it's no better than my finger.


    Sent from my ancient but trustworthy iPhone 5.
    11-16-2014 08:49 AM
  24. Septembersrain's Avatar
    I still have my Note 3. I don't really use the stylus much but it is fun to get a coloring app and just doodle sometimes. I do intend to upgrade it at some point but the Note 4 wasn't enticing enough. I'll see what the 5 has to offer.
    11-16-2014 10:20 AM
  25. Redbird1's Avatar
    Not at all. S-Note was too much of a hassle.
    11-16-2014 01:34 PM
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