1. metrix's Avatar
    This has been stuck in my craw ever since the press conference too. The iPhone 6+ should be the iPhone 6 and the iPhone 6 should be the iPhone c or whatever. But it's a way to shake another 100 bucks out of the consumers, knowing they're going to want and pay for the better of the two. As an avid, lifelong Mac user I've been comfortable with Apple being a "premium brand," but at some point this gets out of control.
    09-13-2014 08:52 PM
  2. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    This has been stuck in my craw ever since the press conference too.
    I'm sorry, but what the heck is a craw?
    The iPhone 6+ should be the iPhone 6 and the iPhone 6 should be the iPhone c or whatever.
    No, the iPhones are exactly as they should be - the iPhone 6 and the iPhone 6 Plus.
    But it's a way to shake another 100 bucks out of the consumers, knowing they're going to want and pay for the better of the two.
    Were you one of the many tech enthusiasts and analysts who have been pushing Apple to release two iPhones, one being phablet size?
    As an avid, lifelong Mac user I've been comfortable with Apple being a "premium brand," but at some point this gets out of control.
    At some point, today's consumers have to learn that they do NOT have to purchase every new tech gadget that comes out.
    09-13-2014 09:14 PM
  3. Guacho's Avatar
    I bet the majority of people ordering the 6plus did it based on the screen size alone, which is ok... to me it was a combination of everything Apple made to differentiate it from the 4.7 model, but I'll have to see if the trade off of carrying a phone that big is worth it...
    09-13-2014 09:16 PM
  4. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    It is interesting how Apple has turned this thing from "giving the consumers what they want" to "making loads of extra cash."
    Wait. What? Certain consumers have been pushing Apple to release a bigger iPhone. Some even wanted Apple to release a phablet size iPhone. Well, Apple gave them what they wanted. As for making loads of cash, I think back to business 101 - People are in business to offer a product or service 'at a profit'.
    Given the extra 100 that most people are forking out for the 64g and another extra 100 that so many are forking out for the 6+, the top price point from previous launches seems to almost be the standard price point now.
    It doesn't matter because those people do NOT have to fork over that money, but are opting to do so because they have concluded that it is worth it. Apple is NOT forcing them to buy their products.
    09-13-2014 09:32 PM
  5. falconeight's Avatar
    The only people slighted by the move from 32 to 64 are the people who wanted 32GB for the $199 price. Apple didn't owe that favor to anyone. The 16GB folks are still getting their 16GB at the same price point. The 32GB folks, who would have paid $299 to get it, now get an extra 32GB!

    Seems the only people upset are those who wanted extra storage without paying more than $199. I know this sounds harsh, but get over it. What's done is done.
    I can see that you marketing skills are hurting young Padewan. Apple omitted the 32 GB and forced the jump from 16 to 64 because they make more selling the 64gb than the 16. If they went with 32, 64, and 128 at the same price points then more consumers would have chosen 32 and that would drop the bottom line. Its a smart move on their part but a sad one because 16 gb is a waste of money for buyers.
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    09-13-2014 09:40 PM
  6. Designed4Him's Avatar
    I bet the majority of people ordering the 6plus did it based on the screen size alone, which is ok... to me it was a combination of everything Apple made to differentiate it from the 4.7 model, but I'll have to see if the trade off of carrying a phone that big is worth it...
    I don't know what other people did but I ordered the 6+ because I wanted a bigger screen and I liked the OIS, Portrait mode, and the PPi (even though they are saying you can't tell).
    09-13-2014 09:45 PM
  7. Designed4Him's Avatar
    I can see that you marketing skills are hurting young Padewan. Apple omitted the 32 GB and forced the jump from 16 to 64 because they make more selling the 64gb than the 16. If they went with 32, 64, and 128 at the same price points then more consumers would have chosen 32 and that would drop the bottom line. Its a smart move on their part but a sad one because 16 gb is a waste of money for buyers.
    How is the 16GB a waste of money for buyers. Everyone doesn't need 32GB of memory especially when Apple has dropped the price of iCloud. You can get 20GB for .99 cent a month! I have a sister that has a 16 GB iPhone and still has 8 GB left.
    Just_Me_D likes this.
    09-13-2014 09:47 PM
  8. finn5975's Avatar
    I can see that you marketing skills are hurting young Padewan. Apple omitted the 32 GB and forced the jump from 16 to 64 because they make more selling the 64gb than the 16. If they went with 32, 64, and 128 at the same price points then more consumers would have chosen 32 and that would drop the bottom line. Its a smart move on their part but a sad one because 16 gb is a waste of money for buyers.
    Please. I never said Apple didn't know what they are doing. But at the same time, a person who was going to pay $199 either a) because they only desire 16gb or b) only could afford $199, will face a situation that is no different since inception. Nothing changed. $199 gets you that 16GB as it always has.

    People who wanted more than 16GB were going to pay $299 whether it was for 32GB in the past or for the 64GB now. Conversely, those who were aiming for 64GB as being ideal are now paying Apple $100 less.

    It plays out numerous ways but again, in the end, the people crying about it are the people who thought they might get 32GB at the $199 price. Nothing changed for them.
    Just_Me_D likes this.
    09-13-2014 09:52 PM
  9. kilofoxtrot's Avatar
    Its a smart move on their part but a sad one because 16 gb is a waste of money for buyers.
    16GB is a waste in 2014, but not in 2013?
    09-13-2014 10:52 PM
  10. iJuan's Avatar
    I don't agree, I believe they are the same phone???? Look at the iPad Air and iPad Mini 2
    Anyways, I got the 6 Plus because of the bigger screen, not that there is anything wrong with the regular 6
    09-13-2014 11:21 PM
  11. miketko's Avatar
    Well I changed my mind and got the 4.7.
    Thought hard. I always get am Otterbox and that would make the 6.5 huge.
    So....4.7.


    Sent from my AWESOME 64G gold iPhone 5s until my iPhone 6 128G Gold arrives
    6.5? where I want!
    qbnkelt likes this.
    09-13-2014 11:41 PM
  12. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    I can see that you marketing skills are hurting young Padewan. Apple omitted the 32 GB and forced the jump from 16 to 64 because they make more selling the 64gb than the 16. If they went with 32, 64, and 128 at the same price points then more consumers would have chosen 32 and that would drop the bottom line. Its a smart move on their part but a sad one because 16 gb is a waste of money for buyers.
    I can see your cynicism is getting the better of you young *padawan (spelling for your future reference there)...you've decided to completely disregard the fact that heavy cloud storage users have no use for large on board storage options (and yes, these days 64GB is a large option). The truth is, most people's storage space is taken up by music, pictures and videos...and with iCloud, you don't have to worry about those things taking up space anymore (if that is your forte), making 16GB (well, technically closer to 13GB) of space for apps perfectly reasonable given the relatively small size of applications on the iPhone.

    I know it's more fun to believe that Apple is sitting in Cupertino trying to figure out ways to squeeze every last penny out of every person that buys their product...I mean this becomes clearly evident with the fact that they have such cheap and poor customer service skills and poorly laid out, run down stores to view the products in. Oh...wait...
    Les74 and qbnkelt like this.
    09-13-2014 11:55 PM
  13. applejosh's Avatar
    I don't consider 16GB a waste, but think it's not as "large" as it used to be perceived as app sizes increase, etc. My wife uses her phone for calling, occasional texting (actually uses her iPad more for this), occasional pictures (again, uses her iPad because of the larger "viewfinder"), and syncing her FitBit. She doesn't keep much music on there or use many apps (probably uses 3-4 at most). So, 16GB would be perfectly fine for her. On the other hand, I have lots of apps. music, and use it as my primary camera, so I was going to go 64GB anyway. My scenario actually means I spent less than I was anticipating. Bumping the base level from 16 to 32 wouldn't have changed what I bought, and it wouldn't have been needed for users with usage similar to my wife's. So I still think 16GB still has its place, but for those who think 32 would have been the perfect size, they either get 64 instead and spend the amount they should have anticipated or lament the fact that they don't get a $100 "discount" by having 32 be the base configuration. I don't think of it as screwing the low end. I see it as a nice "enhancement" for the "power" users. I imagine many users will get the 64GB instead of the 16GB because they're getting 48GB for the extra $100 instead of just 16GB like before. It seems like a deal. This helps Apple keep their margins up and investors happy and yet still address the needs of power users with higher storage requirements.
    09-14-2014 09:26 AM
  14. cardfan's Avatar
    Regardless, if you do spreadsheets of costs along with carrier plans for one year, two years, 4 years, etc you'll see that a 100 dollars means very little.

    The important thing is the monthly cost. The cost of phone means little since you can resell it.

    It's funny we don't see people griping over losing a 100 when they trade in their phone. Yet that's what they're doing.
    09-14-2014 09:43 AM
  15. falconeight's Avatar
    16GB is a waste in 2014, but not in 2013?
    If apple moved from 16, 32, 64, people would flock to the 32. Since they introduced the 128 they have to justify the upgrade prices. If the low model was 32 then that would be the biggest seller and they would lose money because for most people 32 is enough. 16 is not going to satisfy most people so they will move to the 64. Its marketing and its very smart on apple's part.

    I have a 16gb i5s:
    12.9 gb is available from stock. I have 1gb on iPhoto(should be in the cloud but takes a gb away from me), apps take up 2 gb, and I have 1.5 gb in pics. I don't store music or videos because it would take all of my space which is 4gb. I would rather have more freedom and space than say "16gb is a waste".
    09-15-2014 03:07 PM
  16. kilofoxtrot's Avatar
    If apple moved from 16, 32, 64, people would flock to the 32. Since they introduced the 128 they have to justify the upgrade prices. If the low model was 32 then that would be the biggest seller and they would lose money because for most people 32 is enough. 16 is not going to satisfy most people so they will move to the 64. Its marketing and its very smart on apple's part.

    I have a 16gb i5s:
    12.9 gb is available from stock. I have 1gb on iPhoto(should be in the cloud but takes a gb away from me), apps take up 2 gb, and I have 1.5 gb in pics. I don't store music or videos because it would take all of my space which is 4gb. I would rather have more freedom and space than say "16gb is a waste".
    You should have bought a 32 back then... now if you buy "more freedom" you will get 64 for the same price a 32 cost you last year. You win.
    09-15-2014 03:56 PM
  17. finn5975's Avatar
    If apple moved from 16, 32, 64, people would flock to the 32. Since they introduced the 128 they have to justify the upgrade prices. If the low model was 32 then that would be the biggest seller and they would lose money because for most people 32 is enough. 16 is not going to satisfy most people so they will move to the 64. Its marketing and its very smart on apple's part.
    I can certainly appreciate what you are saying here. And you are right, Apple knew exactly what they were doing. With that said, I am very happy Apple provided a 128GB option as I am one who will benefit from this. I think those who were going to purchase 32GB anyways are very happy they now get the 64GB. The 16GB folks hoping for a gift? Well, they are aren't so lucky. But, at least they have options. Might not be ideal to them, however, such is life I guess.
    09-15-2014 04:04 PM
  18. falconeight's Avatar
    I can see your cynicism is getting the better of you young *padawan (spelling for your future reference there)...you've decided to completely disregard the fact that heavy cloud storage users have no use for large on board storage options (and yes, these days 64GB is a large option). The truth is, most people's storage space is taken up by music, pictures and videos...and with iCloud, you don't have to worry about those things taking up space anymore (if that is your forte), making 16GB (well, technically closer to 13GB) of space for apps perfectly reasonable given the relatively small size of applications on the iPhone.

    I know it's more fun to believe that Apple is sitting in Cupertino trying to figure out ways to squeeze every last penny out of every person that buys their product...I mean this becomes clearly evident with the fact that they have such cheap and poor customer service skills and poorly laid out, run down stores to view the products in. Oh...wait...
    Other than correcting a spelling error, nothing you said makes any marketing sense and apps take up a large amount of space. The fart app might be small but lets get real, people don't really use it. Facebook uses 250mb alone and the typical game is 500 mb to 1.5 gb, and the average app size is 100gb. Apple pays $13 to double storage so its $26 for them to charge you $100. If you think people that are in the market for a phone don't weigh the options of a 16gb vs 64 then your in a iCloud of your own. People settle for 16 and thats the truth.
    09-15-2014 04:05 PM
  19. falconeight's Avatar
    I can certainly appreciate what you are saying here. And you are right, Apple knew exactly what they were doing. With that said, I am very happy Apple provided a 128GB option as I am one who will benefit from this. I think those who were going to purchase 32GB anyways are very happy they now get the 64GB. The 16GB folks hoping for a gift? Well, they are aren't so lucky. But, at least they have options. Might not be ideal to them, however, such is life I guess.
    I don't really care what people buy and I think most will be happy. I bought a 64gb because it makes sense for me and the extra $100 happily flew from my pockets to not have to settle on 16gb. 128 gb is an amazing price for the amount of storage found on laptops. Maybe I should have bought a 128?
    09-15-2014 04:08 PM
  20. falconeight's Avatar
    You should have bought a 32 back then... now if you buy "more freedom" you will get 64 for the same price a 32 cost you last year. You win.

    I picked up this 16gb for $200 on craigslist to get me over until the i6 plus gets here n friday. I had a 64gb and sold it for $500 a few months ago.
    09-15-2014 04:09 PM
  21. michikade's Avatar
    I think the storage sizes are very much pro-consumer.

    Many people first starting out with an iPhone may think that 16gb is enough. I know I did. Over the last 2 years, I have had to delete many, many apps or delete my music to free up space to install iOS updates and change apps around. I was going into this iPhone season knowing that I NEED at least 32gb just to breathe, but for what I would have paid for that I am getting twice that in storage. It's a huge weight off of my shoulders knowing that I'll have that much space freely available on my phone without worrying about syncing things to iCloud or deleting my music and hoping that I don't drop signal out on a trail someplace and losing music playback through Match.

    If you're someone who doesn't use many apps at all, 16gb will always be fine for you and your price point didn't change. If you know that 16gb isn't enough, Apple did you a favor by giving you 4 times that for $100 more rather than twice that for $100 more.
    09-15-2014 05:06 PM
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