1. aymanmj79's Avatar
    Hello everyone

    I have a question about BAD ESN iPhone and i hope that you can help me

    If I buy iPhone 5s with BAD ESN status but iCloud unlocked? and used outside USA, is it will work?
    i mean is is possible to accept the new carrier if i put another SIM card outside USA, in Europe or Middle East?

    Best Regards,
    03-26-2014 01:34 PM
  2. iOS Gravity's Avatar
    You have to put in another sim to find out.
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    03-26-2014 01:52 PM
  3. kch50428's Avatar
    If it was a 5S used on Verizon - it should be fine to use outside the US with another provider's GSM sim.
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    03-26-2014 02:11 PM
  4. iOS Gravity's Avatar
    Only CDMA phones come with an ESN #. If the carrier is Sprint, you're out of luck.
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    03-26-2014 02:15 PM
  5. kch50428's Avatar
    Only CDMA phones come with an ESN #. If the carrier is Sprint, you're out of luck.
    Yeah, Sprint CDMA iPhones are GSM locked... Verizon iPhone5 & 5S are not... the 4S can be unlocked by Verizon, and allegedly by 3rd party unlockers - caveat emptor on those.
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    03-26-2014 02:34 PM
  6. kataran's Avatar
    Welcome to iMore 😃


    iMore Ambassador -iPhone 5s
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    03-26-2014 06:47 PM
  7. aymanmj79's Avatar
    Thank you guys for your reply.

    What about bad IMEI, will work outside US, or it is the same scenario?
    03-26-2014 06:59 PM
  8. iOS Gravity's Avatar
    It depends on the carrier and if its unlocked or not. It won't be able to work on the original carrier that it's from.
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    03-26-2014 07:19 PM
  9. iOS Gravity's Avatar
    Welcome to iMore.
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    03-26-2014 07:19 PM
  10. aymanmj79's Avatar
    So, you say the iPhone if unlocked but has bad IMEI there is a big chance to work with a foreign mobile network?
    03-26-2014 08:47 PM
  11. kch50428's Avatar
    So, you say the iPhone if unlocked but has bad IMEI there is a big chance to work with a foreign mobile network?
    As long as it was a Verizon model - yes... if it was a Sprint model, no.
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    03-26-2014 08:51 PM
  12. bobbob1016's Avatar
    Yeah, Sprint CDMA iPhones are GSM locked... Verizon iPhone5 & 5S are not... the 4S can be unlocked by Verizon, and allegedly by 3rd party unlockers - caveat emptor on those.
    I usually get one of those vanilla visa cards if I have to use one of those 3rd party guys. Costs $5 on top of the actual price, but the upshot is, they don't have my actual CC#, and really, no access to more money. Worth the $5 if you ask me.
    03-27-2014 06:28 AM
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    04-02-2014 01:39 PM

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