Iphone 5 vs 5S

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I know its likey somewhere on here already but.... I have an upgrade next week. Why should I get the 5S instead of the 5 when it's more expensive ? Most of the videos I've watched don't demonstrate a big difference. Thank you in advance.
 

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You shouldn't. Get what you want based on what you like and what meets your needs. If it's be the iPhone 5, so be it. It's your money, your choice, and your use.
 

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Actually you can't really get the 5 it's either the 5c or 5s the S is light years ahead with a faster processor break thru 64bit better camera future proof and little things light Touch ID


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If you can find the iPhone 5, go for it, but your best best is iPhone 5C vs iPhone 5S. iPhone 5S is the best. Can't beat the camera. 😎


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Considering that I had to pay ?530 (and break my contract) for the pleasure I wanted to get the latest device. However the 5 is still a good phone. When I got my galaxy S4 in august I would have got the iPhone 5 if it were compatible with my carriers 4G.

The 5, 5C and 5S are all good phones.


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There is no such thing as future proof.
That said, the iPhone 5 is no longer in production. I would suggest you do some research and find out if the 5C or 5S is the device that will fit your use more.
 

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I could sit here and list all the differences, but you can easily go to Apple's website to see them yourself. There is a pretty significant list of them though.

What makes it a better device to me?

- Finger print scanner is just awesome. Mine has worked flawlessly, and it has truly added a convenient security function, where I would typically not use one.
- Camera...the camera is better over all. Better features (burst mode is awesome), better low light still photos and a quicker function as well (which helps if you're trying to take a photo fast)
- The phone feels snappier. I'm not going to sit here and lie to you by telling you the new processors make this thing feel like a totally different phone, because it doesn't. Is it faster? Yes. Is it more precise in certain aspects? Yes. The processors included on the 5S are incredible, but when you look at real world performance, they just make the device a bit more peppy (and that is always a plus, since the iPhone 5 was already a great performing smart phone).

...there are other reasons, but those are the ones that, to me, were the most important. I always buy the new devices anyways because I enjoy having the newest tech, but this phone is by no means a mirror of the iPhone 5...it certain stands on it's own as the best iPhone to date, and if you're the kind of person that holds onto a device for a few years, the 5S would be the optimal choice in that scenario.
 

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Seanhrcc, you remind of the type of consumer Simon Sinek talked about in his TED talk on leaders. It's astonishing actually. Simon calls it why , the golden. Circle, I call it mindshare, the belief. Interesting in that you believe in the apple processor and you consider it the latest tech.

You should watch it, remember when Microsoft made a tablet in the early 2000s , it didn't sell, Aplle does it and it sells like hot cakes.
 

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Seanhrcc, you remind of the type of consumer Simon Sinek talked about in his TED talk on leaders. It's astonishing actually. Simon calls it why , the golden. Circle, I call it mindshare, the belief. Interesting in that you believe in the apple processor and you consider it the latest tech.

You should watch it, remember when Microsoft made a tablet in the early 2000s , it didn't sell, Aplle does it and it sells like hot cakes.

That's fine...asinine, but fine. We all have opinions, and if that is what you have deduced (in your short time here), that's for you to enjoy. I can tell you that I'm certainly not a person who buys products for what they represent...I buy products for how they perform in my life (in whatever facet they are purchased for)...so really, I'm actually the exact OPPOSITE of what Mr. Sinek describes in that discussion (which I have listened to btw)...personally, if something doesn't work for me, regardless of who made it, I don't use it...and if it does work for me, I use it and refer others to it as well.

For clarity though, I find it interesting that you would question a persons "belief" (as you put it) in the A7/M7 chip set, considering that even the competing manufacturers took notice of it in a serious way upon release. I mean I don't know about you, but when you have a phone that performs flawlessly as all 3 of the 5S's I've had have, and then you also read about competitive marvel at the tech inside the phone you prefer...it's kind of hard not to "believe" (whatever that means, lol).

I'd like to point out that I never qualified any part of the iPhone 5S against another device besides the iPhone 5 in my statement above, and because of that, I find it curious why you would decide to make your comment above, since there's no question that the chip set (in comparison to the iPhone 5) is the "latest tech".
 

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That's fine...asinine, but fine. We all have opinions, and if that is what you have deduced (in your short time here), that's for you to enjoy.

For clarity though, I find it interesting that you would question a persons "belief" (as you put it) in the A7/M7 chip set, considering that even the competing manufacturers took notice of it in a serious way upon release. I mean I don't know about you, but when you have a phone that performs flawlessly as all 3 of the 5S's I've had have, and then you also read about competitive marvel at the tech inside the phone you prefer...it's kind of hard not to "believe" (whatever that means, lol).

I'd like to point out that I never qualified any part of the iPhone 5S against another device besides the iPhone 5 in my statement above, and because of that, I find it curious why you would decide to make your comment above, since there's no question that the chip set (in comparison to the iPhone 5) is the "latest tech".

I take you never looked at the TED talk by Simon, the comment wasn't an attack on you or even negative, I suggest you watch it. I just found your comment interesting because he talked of the spectrum of customers and it's a bell curve. The early adopter, the person that buys a product because it's the latest tech. And I was astonished he described you. Anyway there is far more to the talk the care to explain, it's a good watch. But you aren't making because it's the best tech, latest does not mean greatest by the way. I'm digressing watch the talk explains success of a Apple, heck even Martin Luther King beautifully, all in the same presentation.

As for chip A7/M7, I have a CompE degree, a 64 bit mobile chip is not a big deal, nor is it even the first of its kind, nor does 64 bit mean much on a machine that only has 1gb of memory. I digress though without getting into it to much unless what we do on a phone drastically changes, and I don't think you'll be rendering avatar on your mobile anytime soon, it's more marketing then hoopla. There are plenty of chips that are faster in pure number of operations that can be done per sec, than the A7, but it is a strong mobile chip. Revolutionary not so much.
 

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As for chip A7/M7, I have a CompE degree, a 64 bit mobile chip is not a big deal, nor is it even the first of its kind, nor does 64 bit mean much on a machine that only has 1gb of memory. I digress though without getting into it to much unless what we do on a phone drastically changes, and I don't think you'll be rendering avatar on your mobile anytime soon, it's more marketing then hoopla. There are plenty of chips that are faster in pure number of operations that can be done per sec, than the A7, but it is a strong mobile chip. Revolutionary not so much.

RAM has nothing to do with a 64-bit processor, it's the operating system that limits how much RAM is useable. If you are running a 32-bit OS it can only access up to 3.2 GB of RAM and it doesn't matter if you are using a 64-bit processor with 8 GB of ram, if the OS is 32-bit it can only use up to 3.2 GB of RAM period.

Also with a 64-bit processor the A7 can process 2 32-bit processes at once per core. With apps that are updated for 64-bit then the A7 can process longer instruction sets which if the app is coded properly it can get the job done faster and more efficiently.

In terms of revolutionary, it's not high up there but it is the next step to bring desktop processing to mobile


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RAM has nothing to do with a 64-bit processor, it's the operating system that limits how much RAM is useable. If you are running a 32-bit OS it can only access up to 3.2 GB of RAM and it doesn't matter if you are using a 64-bit processor with 8 GB of ram, if the OS is 32-bit it can only use up to 3.2 GB of RAM period.

Also with a 64-bit processor the A7 can process 2 32-bit processes at once per core. With apps that are updated for 64-bit then the A7 can process longer instruction sets which if the app is coded properly it can get the job done faster and more efficiently.

In terms of revolutionary, it's not high up there but it is the next step to bring desktop processing to mobile


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Uhm hence my point a 64 bit processor doesn't matter on a machine that's got 1gb. And it's not the operating system that limits the addressing of memory, it's the size of the register on the processor, a 32-bit, can not address higher than 3 gb. this is what 32 bit refers, 64 bit processor has 64 bit register, therefore it can hold an address to a memory location greater than 3 gb.

Yes, and if you optimize an app for 64 bit computing , yes you may improve performance. But bottom line the average thing that you do on a mobile device doesn't benefit at least today, gaming will be one thing that the average person does that could see improvemen. Furthermore, this idea that just because you can hold 2 32 bit instructions does not mean you can process them simultaneously, and so on .. This conversation is way more complex than a couple of paragraphs but this idea that just because it's 64 bit means it's faster is false. No more than saying by default because 1 processor works at 1.5ghz it's automatically faster than a processor that works at 1.3ghz. unless they are the exact same processor this is definitely not true.
 

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If you're going to keep the phone for a few years I would go with the 5s because of the new chip in it. Future phones will have the same thing, which is a greater chance of all apps being able to work for you then... where the iPhone 5 might have difficulties.
 

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Ok...I'm going to go on a tangent here (as off topic as this still is to the point of the original topic), and before I do, here's the link I just visited and watched this 20min. video you keep referencing...

The Golden Circle Theory - Simon Sinek Discusses How Great Leaders Inspire Action (VIDEO)

...so yes, I watched precisely what you are referencing and using to label me as a consumer.

Firstly, you are absolutely, 100% wrong in your assessment. Period. You are wrong. Why? How? I'll explain. The video describes how a company sells a product...specifically, how Apple sells a product differently to consumers vs. other companies (who haven't found the same success). The basis of the information says that a person is emotionally attached to the company before the products even come into place...it then goes on to a connection to the philosophy of the company and how the consumer believes in that philosophy...lastly, it describes how the consumer would ultimately buy the product offered because they would be it regardless of change, competitive products or innovation/lack there of.

So how were you wrong? Because I don't buy my products based on an idea. I don't buy my products based on visual representations, marketing strategy or the influence of "need" from corporate developers and designers. I'm not a person sold on words.

You want to know how and why I buy my products? It's completely and perfectly simple...

Because it works optimally for me. Period.

The iPhone/Macbook works in my life in better ways than other devices. The size, the OS, the app selection, the camera, etc etc etc. All of these things build to a preference. A PERSONAL preference...based on historic performance, based on customer service quality, based on reliability, based on ease of use, based on technological offering, based on integration with my other preferences (computers, car, etc). It's a personal preference, not a label.

I also buy products based on what I see as worth while investment. The 5S offers a range of new features over it's predecessor...it also presents a new product in the lineup which yields better resale value in the future. Do you realize that I probably would still have an iPhone 4S if iPhone's didn't sell so well on the private market? I haven't come out of pocket more than a negligible amount since the 3GS, and I continue to get the new iPhone's because they both offer new technology vs. the old, but they also essentially come gift wrapped to me...I'd do it with cars too if it would work, but unfortunately, as soon as I drive my car off the lot I'm sitting in a hole that I have to work my way out of, so I tend to make use of them for a far longer stretch.

Am I an early adopter? Absolutely. Sometimes to my ever lasting regret. I adopted HD-DVD when it was released because I enjoyed mating my high definition TV with a true high definition format. I spent a lot of money on it, and quite a bit more on the discs themselves...and then the tech died, and was overshadowed by blu-ray...I thoroughly love video games, so I'm always an early adopter in consoles. Are they the best outlet for playing specific games? Certainly not, computers can be a far superior outlet, but my preference is to have a console to play my games on...i buy the new consoles when they come out, and I enjoy them for the entertainment value I get out of them. I often like to share these experiences with people too, hoping that a person like myself might see something I express and take that into consideration when they are looking to purchase something.

I mean I wasn't aware that early adoption of technology equated to blind investment in an idea.

I'm a bit offended that you'd be so generalizing in your description of me. For one, you haven't discussed anything with me in any where NEAR enough detail to have an accurate deduction on the type of consumer I am. You've also not looked at the entire spectrum of consumer products I personally buy...and probably never would, because I don't really share them honestly unless someone asks. I'm typically not a person to brag or show off...and I'm certainly not a person who buys things in the simplistic nature of wanting others to see what I bought. Not at all.

You say that you didn't infer anything negative or attacking with your comment, but let's be honest here...that's exactly what you did, regardless of how you want to sugar coat it. You wanted to point out that you felt I was a person who bought products FIRST because I wanted people to know I had it first...I bought products based on this guy's "golden circle" idea, and idea that implies that a person really doesn't buy a product because of it's usefulness or offering, but because of what they are fed visually before a product is even in front of them. Basically, consumers that are sheep to put it bluntly.

Now no offense, but I literally couldn't care less what your degree is in...it gives you no real insight into why or how I buy things. Do I buy a new iPhone when it comes out every year? Certainly. Is part of the reason because I want to have the newest offering of the iPhone? Absolutely! But that logic could be applied to anything...new cars, new house, new TV, new boat...I mean I'm a tech junky, I like to have nice tech toys, and I spend a lot of money doing it. Do I do it so other people see that? Not even slightly. I don't care if you know I have a nice car or ride the bus to work...it just doesn't matter to me (unless you ask, and I care to tell you). You sit and explain how the chip set in the iPhone is not a big deal because you have a CompE degree...whoopty F'n doo. It's a better chip set than the iPhone 5, it offers more horsepower to the device itself, more function mated with the M7 chip and it continues the line of flawless performance from the iPhone that I have come to expect...while also balancing new technology and features found only on the 5S (in the Apple product lineup)

I'm honestly kind of done with the conversation. You had an inaccurate opinion and I just explained how you were wrong. Take it or leave it. I'm still quite curious why you felt the need to bring it up in this thread though...almost in a troll like nature...because looking at the subject matter of the thread, and my general response to it, your comment was kind of out of left field.

At no time did I say anything about any Apple product or component of Apple product being the "best" on the market...I don't make blanket statements like that unless I'm speaking about a product FOR ME specifically. I never have, and I never will.
 
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This needs to be carried on in its own proper thread but saying that 64 bit is not ground breaking in a mobile device is completely off base I don't have a degree but understand the value it brings to Gaming and app Development. Apple plays Tech like a Game of chess looking moves ahead and yes the 5s is future Proof in the sense that it's geared toward the up and coming mobile experience


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Sean, if you listened to the comment, he wasn't saying that people buy based on feelings he said that people buy things for themselves. Also, you stated you don't buy things based on words which was exactly his points. Thirdly I just was stating you are an early adopter as you stated you want the latest tech, like to have the latest, getting those users isn't the keys to success which was his point about that. Anyway man I don't even know you are arguing you are an early adopter by your own admission which if you stop being defense and stop looking at my post as an attack you'd get it.

GOTO 11:10 where he starts talking about the law of diffusion of innovation.


Finally, the fact that you are on iMore discussing about Apple means you do have some attachment to their products , you want to know what are they up to, what's their next big idea because you already have a belief in their products , moreover why are you getting upset about being a supporter or fan?
 
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This needs to be carried on in its own proper thread but saying that 64 bit is not ground breaking in a mobile device is completely off base I don't have a degree but understand the value it brings to Gaming and app Development. Apple plays Tech like a Game of chess looking moves ahead and yes the 5s is future Proof in the sense that it's geared toward the up and coming mobile experience


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Ok, if it's so ground breaking what does 64bit mean? Why aren't desktop processors greater than 64bit?

Is the A7 a great processor but not because it's 64bit. And Apple is not about future proofing because they want to sell you a new phone every year, why did it take so long for LTE, why so long in NFC, come on dude get your head out of your ... Apple makes awesome products but being the first or groundbreaking is not the key to their success? Was the iPad the first tablet, was the iPod the first MP3 player, contrary to popular belief the iPhone was not the first phone to combine mp3 plus phone functionality. Apple key is refinement of ideas? You probably think Siri was an apple invention , nope it was a purchased company that already was providing the app on Apple 2 years prior. Again, as it stands right now 64bits on processor is not a big deal, especially in mobile space because what mobile machines are used to. Even graphics, a mobile screen is small, powerful GPUs don't matter on small screens relatively speaking. But the improved graphic performance is because of the Gpus included not so much of the A7.

Finally, 64 bit arm processors are not new ARM which is the basis of Apple processors has been doing 64 bit designs for a couple years now, and they are found in other mobile devices and servers now that ArM is breaking into that space. You do know that the basis of Apple processors are designed by ARM and implemented by Apple. Apple is not a processor company. Anyway I digress if you think the A7 is revolutionary ok, it's more evolutionary, it's like when AMD extended x86 to 64bit, it was evolution of 32 bit x86. I don't need to tell you difference in the power this processor is not because it's 64 bit, in fact it will perform some things slower especially if it's an app that has not been updated.
 
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