1. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    I have Siri turned to OFF for lock screen access, yet it still works. Not only that, but if I ask it to open an app it completely unlocks the phone and goes to the app. As a matter of fact, it only happens when Touch ID is enabled.

    Is anyone else experiencing this?

    Edit: Working as intended
    Try it without the finger you've used to setup fingerprint scan control.

    Mine does not access Siri unless I use my scanned fingers. It also does not work if I have finger print scanner off.
    Last edited by Heisenberg; 11-06-2013 at 08:25 PM.
    11-06-2013 07:02 PM
  2. kch50428's Avatar
    Sounds like something to demonstrate to an AppleGenius so they can report the issue through their channels, or swap a defective device if that is found to be the case...
    11-06-2013 07:11 PM
  3. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    Sounds like something to demonstrate to an AppleGenius so they can report the issue through their channels, or swap a defective device if that is found to be the case...
    I want to see if anyone here can replicate this before I actually go. I've had 3 different 5S's so far and each of them would do the same. Except that today it occurred to me to actually ask Siri to open an app and it happened. I tried to replicate it on my iPad Air and it wouldn't happen, which promoted me to try on my 5S without Touch ID. I just got this new 5S on Monday when I got it as an exchange for my gold one that I didn't want to keep.

    Or, I'm missing something and would like to be corrected
    11-06-2013 07:21 PM
  4. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    I have Siri turned to OFF for lock screen access, yet it still works. Not only that, but if I ask it to open an app it completely unlocks the phone and goes to the app. As a matter of fact, it only happens when Touch ID is enabled.

    Is anyone else experiencing this?
    After reading your post, I tried to duplicate the problem, but I couldn't. I turned OFF access to Siri when the device is locked, and when I held down the home button, Siri was NOT activated. Granted, I don't have an iPhone 5S, but still, I'm wondering if a restore and set up as new will correct the problem for you.
    BreakingKayfabe likes this.
    11-06-2013 07:38 PM
  5. warcraftWidow's Avatar
    I'll give it a try with my 5S in a while and let you know.
    BreakingKayfabe likes this.
    11-06-2013 07:45 PM
  6. MzDee's Avatar
    I just gave this a try. Access to Siri for the lock screen is disabled but I am still able to use it.
    BreakingKayfabe likes this.
    11-06-2013 07:49 PM
  7. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    I restored this phone from what I think was a backup from the previous 5S. I'm going to check and if not going to use the other backup which was a clean 7.0.3 install for a 5S and see what happens....
    11-06-2013 07:53 PM
  8. warcraftWidow's Avatar
    I have the same issue. With Siri lock screen access off, I can still access Siri and launch apps.
    I do have touchid enabled and didn't try this with it off.
    11-06-2013 08:00 PM
  9. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    I have the same issue. With Siri lock screen access off, I can still access Siri and launch apps.
    I do have touchid enabled and didn't try this with it off.
    Well, that is definitely a security issue that Apple needs to correct ASAP, if they are aware of the problem.
    nikkisharif likes this.
    11-06-2013 08:01 PM
  10. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    Yeah. On a clean restore I'm still able to do this.
    11-06-2013 08:05 PM
  11. warcraftWidow's Avatar
    Well, that is definitely a security issue that Apple needs to correct ASAP, if they are aware of the problem.
    Since I have an Apple developer account, I just filed a bug report. Won't hurt for everyone else to either so that (if they have a dev account) or use the normal Apple feedback.
    11-06-2013 08:09 PM
  12. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    Since I have an Apple developer account, I just filed a bug report. Won't hurt for everyone else to either so that (if they have a dev account) or use the normal Apple feedback.
    I Used the Apple feedback. Here's the link for whomever wants to leave feedback.

    Apple - iPhone - Feedback
    11-06-2013 08:11 PM
  13. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    Try it without the finger you've used to setup fingerprint scan control.

    Mine does not access Siri unless I use my scanned fingers. It also does not work if I have finger print scanner off.
    MzDee, Just_Me_D and nikkisharif like this.
    11-06-2013 08:11 PM
  14. warcraftWidow's Avatar
    I have the same issue. With Siri lock screen access off, I can still access Siri and launch apps.
    I do have touchid enabled and didn't try this with it off.
    I do wonder if the touchid sensor is recognizing the fingerprint during the long press for Siri and unlocking the phone behind the scenes when the Siri screen comes up (i.e., the phone was no longer locked).
    11-06-2013 08:12 PM
  15. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    Try it without the finger you've used to setup fingerprint scan control.

    Mine does not access Siri unless I use my scanned fingers. It also does not work if I have finger print scanner off.
    There's the solution. ^^^ lol
    11-06-2013 08:13 PM
  16. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    I think this is actually an accidentally intuitive function, lol. The finger print scanner is reading your finger print and seamlessly opening Siri if held down (thinking that is the full function you want).
    11-06-2013 08:13 PM
  17. nikkisharif's Avatar
    nice feature!!!
    squeff likes this.
    11-06-2013 11:41 PM
  18. Nolander07's Avatar
    I thought it was a bug also, but it is an awesome feature. I tried it with different fingers, but only works with my saved fingerprints.
    Last edited by Nolander07; 11-07-2013 at 11:44 PM.
    11-07-2013 01:03 PM
  19. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    We should delete the solution to see how many "Apple needs to address this "problem" comments we get from the peanut gallery, lol!
    nikkisharif likes this.
    11-07-2013 02:54 PM
  20. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    For the sake to have something to complain about, I wish it didn't do this so that way I can just press my home button and unlock instead of having to light up the screen first and then touch ID myself into the phone.

    I'll continue to live as I already have, though.
    11-07-2013 03:15 PM
  21. warcraftWidow's Avatar
    A good thing to note about this...I'd filed a bug report thru Apple's developer program (and then marked it as resolved once we figured out the "issue" was user-confusion). But today I got an email from product-security@apple.com inquiring about more details about the potential security issue. So they are on top of these things at least.
    11-08-2013 02:21 PM

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