1. jenil_295's Avatar
    I can't say about others, bt i find a phone with 4.3' or more screen size a bit odd to hold and use....
    Heck I've seen ppl use a samsung galaxy tab as a phone...
    So for me screen size is a big plus abt dis device...
    Also to pack something soo powerful in d exact same casing does require a lott of work...
    And let's say if apple opens up d fingerprint sensor apis for developers, den who knows wat we will b looking at!
    One thing for sure though is dat in a couple of years, we're looking at d next generation of security, controlled nt by passwords, bt our hands...

    Nt to mention to pack something like finger print sensor which is only seen in sci--fi movies is an innovation..
    And thise who think otherwise are just haters!


    iPhone 5 16GB
    Donnee likes this.
    09-11-2013 04:59 AM
  2. darkoman4's Avatar
    I wasn't expecting anything more from the iPhone 5S and all those updates are fine and I will get the new one. What I was disappointed about the most is the price for iPhone 5C. That would have been a great device for my kids if the price was $450 or less. (We are on TMobile so no subsidized price for us). They can make iPod touch with all aluminum casing, and extremely thin 32 GB for $299 and they have to charge double for cell radio,a generation newer CPU, upgraded camera and plastic casing with half the memory. That was my biggest issue with yesterday's announcement.
    09-11-2013 05:21 AM
  3. anon5664829's Avatar
    No I'm not a troll (see my past postings for proof)

    I am just so frustrated with Apple after today,,,,, today was just another example of how lame and non-innovated they have become.

    Yea,,,, great idea Apple,,,, the black iphone 5 IS without doubt the coolest looking phone on the planet so ya do away with it to replace it with gold and gray,,,, good move Apple !!!!

    Yea,,, I get it, the black iphone was prone to nicks so instead of figuring a way to make it nick proof ya just drop your most popular color for silver and gold which will also get nicks on the finish.

    And then after a year of the 5 the incremental upgrades announced today on the 5s are the best you can come up with,,,,, my GS4 and Note 2 have had most of those features for the last year except for the finger print scanner which may or may not end up being a good feature.

    The camera on the 5s is about the only thing I'm holding onto hope for,,,, I've done side by side shots with my GS4 and iPhone 5 and in most cases my GS4 has won,,,, if the 5s camera truly blows away my GS4 then yes I "might" get it in spite of the gold and gray colors.

    Dropping the black, still the same 4" size screen are two main reasons that I might just stick with Android.

    Apple is trying to regain sales from Android and the 5s is the best they can do,,,, wow !!!

    I'm sure some of the Apple fanboys are just fine with the 5s,,,, but for some one like me that uses both iOS and Android I am very much not impressed after today.

    What's next Apple,,,,, hey I got a great idea,,, how bout a non-retina iPad mini 2,,,,, that will be a great move too !!!!!

    Cheers
    Davyo
    I find you guys funny.

    The M7 can track when you are driving or walking and adjusts Apple or Google maps(when Google updates it to take advantage of it) to either mode. Plus you've got it knowing when you are sleeping so it pings the network a whole lot less. The dual flash with the software can produce over 1000 colour and intensity levels. Plus you have basically an 8 ultra pixel camera with HD Slo Mo video and normal video recorded at 120FPS.slo mo is at 60 FPS. The die size and the nm process is smaller therefore it is more efficient and the battery capacity has gotten a slight boost. On top of all that the GPU takes full advantage of the 64 bit computing opportunity a d graphics really look stunning.

    Fingerprint scanner is sorta gimmicky right now but it has huge potential. Please don't call the 5S a small upgrade when it isn't.
    Apple did nothing to upgrade the 5? You are joking.
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    09-11-2013 06:23 AM
  4. sanc333's Avatar
    did he just say that S4 camera is better than of the iPhone 5?
    09-11-2013 06:35 AM
  5. kataran's Avatar
    In order for Tech to be affordable it has to be released slowly all the Smartphones coming out lately have small improvements to keep the price in a certain range but if you compare it to say Automobiles it would be Overwhelming a newer model car with new colors a bigger motor better alarm system at the same Price as last years model.


    Sent from my iPhone 5
    09-11-2013 08:49 AM
  6. Davyo's Avatar
    did he just say that S4 camera is better than of the iPhone 5?
    What I said was I did side by side shots with my GS4 and my iPhone 5, exact same pictures, same lighting, both set to auto modes,,,,, in about 80 to 90% of the pictures my GS4 was the clear winner for overall picture quality,,,, video quality was about even,,,,,, but the audio quality of my GS4 destroyed the iPhone audio quality on all the videos.

    My Note 2 and GS4 also had the slow motion feature that Apple is just now releasing with the 5s,,,,,,, so yes,,,, in my real world ownership of both the GS4 and the ip5 the GS4 had the better camera.

    However, after all i have read about the 5s camera I do think the 5s camera stands a real good chance of beating out my GS4 for picture quality and if that's the case then I will most likely get the 5s,,,,,,, and also now that the 5s will have the slow motion feature that's another plus for the 5s,,,,, I use the slow mo on my GS4 constantly,,,, it's a very cool and fun feature for any camera.

    Cheers
    Davyo
    09-11-2013 09:42 AM
  7. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    No I'm not a troll (see my past postings for proof)

    I am just so frustrated with Apple after today,,,,, today was just another example of how lame and non-innovated they have become.

    Yea,,,, great idea Apple,,,, the black iphone 5 IS without doubt the coolest looking phone on the planet so ya do away with it to replace it with gold and gray,,,, good move Apple !!!!

    Yea,,, I get it, the black iphone was prone to nicks so instead of figuring a way to make it nick proof ya just drop your most popular color for silver and gold which will also get nicks on the finish.

    And then after a year of the 5 the incremental upgrades announced today on the 5s are the best you can come up with,,,,, my GS4 and Note 2 have had most of those features for the last year except for the finger print scanner which may or may not end up being a good feature.

    The camera on the 5s is about the only thing I'm holding onto hope for,,,, I've done side by side shots with my GS4 and iPhone 5 and in most cases my GS4 has won,,,, if the 5s camera truly blows away my GS4 then yes I "might" get it in spite of the gold and gray colors.

    Dropping the black, still the same 4" size screen are two main reasons that I might just stick with Android.

    Apple is trying to regain sales from Android and the 5s is the best they can do,,,, wow !!!

    I'm sure some of the Apple fanboys are just fine with the 5s,,,, but for some one like me that uses both iOS and Android I am very much not impressed after today.

    What's next Apple,,,,, hey I got a great idea,,, how bout a non-retina iPad mini 2,,,,, that will be a great move too !!!!!

    Cheers
    Davyo
    Hi Davyo,

    it's okay to feel the way you do about a product or the company that makes the product. We all want our devices to look a certain way or to have certain things on it that currently are not. Still, that doesn't mean that the device that is available is not worthy of purchase. I'm a real stickler for the professional look and, in my opinion, the available colors for the iPhone 5S maintains that professional look. Having said that, if you feel the Samsung is a better fit for you, then by all means, use it. The iPhone, in and of itself, will not please everyone and neither will any other device, however, for those of us who are quite pleased with what we saw in regard to the iPhone 5C and the iPhone 5S, it's all good. Take care, sir...
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    09-11-2013 09:53 AM
  8. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    What I said was I did side by side shots with my GS4 and my iPhone 5, exact same pictures, same lighting, both set to auto modes,,,,, in about 80 to 90% of the pictures my GS4 was the clear winner for overall picture quality,,,, video quality was about even,,,,,, but the audio quality of my GS4 destroyed the iPhone audio quality on all the videos.

    My Note 2 and GS4 also had the slow motion feature that Apple is just now releasing with the 5s,,,,,,, so yes,,,, in my real world ownership of both the GS4 and the ip5 the GS4 had the better camera.

    However, after all i have read about the 5s camera I do think the 5s camera stands a real good chance of beating out my GS4 for picture quality and if that's the case then I will most likely get the 5s,,,,,,, and also now that the 5s will have the slow motion feature that's another plus for the 5s,,,,, I use the slow mo on my GS4 constantly,,,, it's a very cool and fun feature for any camera.

    Cheers
    Davyo
    Not to take away from your other points (which are completely valid if that is what you experienced), but saying one camera is better than the other one because one lacks a feature (IE: Slow-Mo) would be like saying the newest Sony point and shoot is better than the Canon 7D because it has social network sharing options vs. the 7D, which by comparison is just a bare bones camera (in context).

    "Better" is subjective in that regard, because honestly, some people might not ever use any of these features and may just use the thing as a standard camera.

    The quality points you made though (while surprising) are a more legitimate point...I'd stick with the camera that worked better for me too (which just happens to be the iPhone's in my case).
    09-11-2013 09:59 AM
  9. SprSynJn's Avatar
    I find you guys funny.

    The M7 can track when you are driving or walking and adjusts Apple or Google maps(when Google updates it to take advantage of it) to either mode. Plus you've got it knowing when you are sleeping so it pings the network a whole lot less. The dual flash with the software can produce over 1000 colour and intensity levels. Plus you have basically an 8 ultra pixel camera with HD Slo Mo video and normal video recorded at 120FPS.slo mo is at 60 FPS. The die size and the nm process is smaller therefore it is more efficient and the battery capacity has gotten a slight boost. On top of all that the GPU takes full advantage of the 64 bit computing opportunity a d graphics really look stunning.

    Fingerprint scanner is sorta gimmicky right now but it has huge potential. Please don't call the 5S a small upgrade when it isn't.
    Apple did nothing to upgrade the 5? You are joking.
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    If all that is true, that is indeed one hell of an upgrade in just one year. And I personally think the scanner is much more important than people realize.
    09-11-2013 10:35 AM
  10. metllicamilitia's Avatar
    If all that is true, that is indeed one hell of an upgrade in just one year. And I personally think the scanner is much more important than people realize.
    That is indeed true, it was all spelled out during the event. Except for the sleep tracking, but those who use FitBit for sleep tracking that is very true.


    Blazin' tappity tap tap 2 you!
    09-11-2013 11:24 AM
  11. Oofa's Avatar
    It sounds like the OP just wanted Apple to become Android?
    09-11-2013 11:33 AM
  12. bgl321's Avatar
    I don't know how much more people want a phone to do? The 5S looks to be a nice update. If I was eligible I'd certainly upgrade. But for now I'll be perfectly happy with my 5 and the launch of iOS7.
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    09-11-2013 12:12 PM
  13. ejb222's Avatar
    It sounds like the OP just wanted Apple to become Android?
    I don't understand why people speak so senselessly. Look...APPL is down 33% from a year ago....33%!!!! Why? Well, possibly it is because APPL hasn't produced hardware that has captured the market like they used to. You know hardware that produced enough hype to launch their stock into the $700 range. Now, I would say it's totally unreasonable to have the expectation that APPL could have that sort of streak. But there is something to be said as to why the trend is shifting away from APPL hardware. It is not a bad idea to analyze why. In fact, that analysis is the very reason APPL went with various colour 5c...because people like it...they like options...APPL had not given that previously. I tell you, it wont be long before APPL loses even more market share at this rate. You can only ride a name so long. Right now APPL is riding on the iPhone name. Sure the eco system is great. Sure the phones are nice. But admit it, there are equally great alternatives, a vaster variety of options that APPL doesn't provide, and people jump to iPhone because it's trendy...especially first time buyers. But if iPhone can't actually maintain it's image or APPL can't impress in the future with tech, then I don't see it continuing to be a leader. I predicted the stock drop a year ago and I was laughed out of my buddy's house...but no I can say I told you so...sometimes a sober step back to assess the situation is a good thing. So many people on here are called trolls or what ever because they had higher hopes for the iPhone...but reality is APPL stock and market share and press impressions are mirroring these same unimpressed opinions...maybe it's time to listen to the so called 'trolls'
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    09-11-2013 12:34 PM
  14. iEd's Avatar
    I've said this before. The only way I'd go back to Android is if it came bundled with Kate Upton. Then I wouldn't notice how fractured Android OS is.
    Fausty82, Donnee, bgl321 and 1 others like this.
    09-11-2013 12:51 PM
  15. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Apple is not going to be around forever, and neither are we. Those are facts! Having said that, trends come and go, especially in the tech industry. People will say that it is unreasonable to expect Apple to maintain its stature, but then turn right around and place unreasonable demands and expectations on it. People's own expectations take center stage over Apple's. I'd argue that some people don't have a clue to what kind of innovation they'd like to see. It's like my wife telling me she wants to go to a restaurant to eat, but don't know which one she prefers, and every one that I recommend gets turned down. When I finally make a decision to where we will eat, she finds a reason to complain about it. In short, and it doesn't matter what company it is, consumers will either like their products or they won't. They will either buy their products or they won't, but companies with a carefully laid out plan will usually be able to last longer than companies that do not. Lastly, we tech enthusiasts seem to forget that we represent a mere fraction of Apple's customers and yet, we think that our opinions and self indulged tech expertise should outweigh the overall satisfaction of its core consumers.
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    09-11-2013 12:58 PM
  16. iEd's Avatar
    But seriously those of us who have been with iPhone since day one know that a S model is coming. Last year I said I will wait on the 5S. I may wait on the 6 and stick with my 4S for now but it will always be iPhone
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    09-11-2013 01:04 PM
  17. Fausty82's Avatar
    Apple is not going to be around forever, and neither are we. Those are facts! Having said that, trends come and go, especially in the tech industry. People will say that it is unreasonable to expect Apple to maintain its stature, but then turn right around and place unreasonable demands and expectations on it. People's own expectations take center stage over Apple's. I'd argue that some people don't have a clue to what kind of innovation they'd like to see. It's like my wife telling me she wants to go to a restaurant to eat, but don't know which one she prefers, and every one that I recommend gets turned down. When I finally make a decision to where we will eat, she finds a reason to complain about it. In short, and it doesn't matter what company it is, consumers will either like their products or they won't. They will either buy their products or they won't, but companies with a carefully laid out plan will usually be able to last longer than companies that do not. Lastly, we tech enthusiasts seem to forget that we represent a mere fraction of Apple's customers and yet, we think that our opinions and self indulged tech expertise should outweigh the overall satisfaction of its core consumers.
    Yep. We call it the "I don’t know what I want, but whatever you gave me, that ain’t it" syndrome around our house. That and the fact that we, as a people, are extremely fickle.
    Last edited by Fausty82; 09-11-2013 at 01:49 PM.
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    09-11-2013 01:30 PM
  18. theKHMERboy's Avatar
    Wow that is a lot to say just to consider going back to iPhone or not
    09-11-2013 01:52 PM
  19. jburke82's Avatar
    Excellent point JustMe'd! Very well said.
    09-11-2013 02:02 PM
  20. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Excellent point JustMe'd! Very well said.
    Thank you....
    09-11-2013 02:06 PM
  21. anon5664829's Avatar
    If all that is true, that is indeed one hell of an upgrade in just one year. And I personally think the scanner is much more important than people realize.
    There's more then that. That's just the really cool stuff.


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    09-11-2013 02:41 PM
  22. boovish's Avatar
    Well just you wait till next year kiddo! They will release the 5SC and the 6. But I think the 5S is pretty neat. When I saw it yesterday, I was like Bunifa at the end of Trading spaces

    Its at 3:10.
    09-11-2013 03:13 PM
  23. boovish's Avatar
    No, We didn't know that until the 4S. Everyone expected a new design, but there was just the 4S. And they totally messed up the announcement of it. Now they don't even show the new iPods in september. It needs to go back to July
    09-11-2013 03:14 PM
  24. sprocket2107's Avatar
    We all understand that many users are disappointed or upset that Apple replaced the Slate/Black with Space Gray. These people need to understand that ultimately their change in the color scheme will make the phone more durable i.e.: less prone to the scratches. Some of you may not remember but when the 5 was released there was a ton of backlash because the Slate model was scratching much, much easier and they were more visible. Also, going with the Space Gray color ultimately means that Apple will be able to build more devices because black is the hardest color to anodize and time consuming which is why Apple went with gray and gold is the easiest to anodize as well. It's not surprising to me that Apple released a gold variant.
    DaPhoneking and anon5664829 like this.
    09-11-2013 05:33 PM
  25. General Tso's Avatar
    I'll be back when/if they put out a 5 inch screen. I want my GS4 screen with iOS!!!
    mountainman likes this.
    09-11-2013 05:36 PM
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