1. Ted G's Avatar
    Just wondered if anyone knew whether or not you could be on the phone and the internet at the same time...

    I have Verizon as a carrier -- and for some reason when I switched to iPhone last year from Motorola Droid -- I lost the ability to do both...

    I've REALLY MISSED not being able to do both and FREQUENTLY have to hang up, check something, then call back whomever I'm speaking with...

    THANKS!!!
    09-10-2013 04:54 PM
  2. kch50428's Avatar
    Not until Verizon deploys Voice over LTE - which may be sometime in 2014... until then - the only way to talk & surf on Verizon is to be on wifi for data because the phones only have the capability to have data via LTE or 3G/CDMA or voice - not both simultaneously.
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    09-10-2013 04:58 PM
  3. Ted G's Avatar
    Thanks Keith for the SUPERFAST response...

    Did the Motorola Droid worked because it was 4g and not lte???

    Also -- when/if Verizon DOES allow both over LTE -- is that something that will automatically work even with my current iPhone 5???

    Or would I need a software upgrade or a hardware upgrade???

    Thanks again...
    09-10-2013 05:04 PM
  4. finn5975's Avatar
    Not until Verizon deploys Voice over LTE - which may be sometime in 2014... until then - the only way to talk & surf on Verizon is to be on wifi for data because the phones only have the capability to have data via LTE or 3G/CDMA or voice - not both simultaneously.
    Partially true. While not available over 3G, phones such as S3, S4, HTC One, Note series, etc. have the ability, on Verizon, over LTE. As far as I know the iPhone is the only LTE capable device that cannot use voice over LTE.

    Edit: unless you were referring only to iPhones to begin with.

    Edit again: Keith expanded on this.
    09-10-2013 05:12 PM
  5. kch50428's Avatar
    At least on Verizon - 4G and LTE are the same thing... some Verizon devices have essentially two radios in them - one LTE for data, and another for CDMA voice + EVDO/3G data and could do voice & data at the same time... and some devices have radios that can do CDMA voice & EVDO/3G data at the same time... Apple decided that battery performance was more important than having two radios & antennae... and most long-time verizon customers that truly needed simultaneous voice & data while mobile were aware of CDMA's limitations and had a solution for mobile data that didn't involve their phones... like netbooks in the past, or data cards for laptops... and more recently - iPads, or other tablets.
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    09-10-2013 05:13 PM
  6. Ted G's Avatar
    Thanks again for such a QUICK response...

    I was aware of the limitation when I bought the iPhone last year -- but was hoping that it would change sooner rather than later since I travel 25-28 days per month...

    I really don't have an alternative internet source, since I'm grand fathered in on the "unlimited" data for the phone only -- so -- I guess I'll just deal with it, until another phone comes out -- or Verizon fixes the problem...

    EVEN WITH this limitation -- the iPhone is SO MUCH BETTER than the old Motorola Droid that I had -- even with improvements to Android, I don't want to go back...

    Thanks again...
    09-10-2013 05:24 PM
  7. NinerJet9's Avatar
    My prior Droid DNA and Galaxy Nexus allowed for talk and data simultaneously on vzw. My friends Blackberry Z10 also works on vzw. My iPhone 5 does not.
    09-10-2013 05:41 PM
  8. Jay2pt0's Avatar
    Just want to add one more thing. Originally the iPhone 5 on Sprint and Verizon do have 2 radios. This allows you to switch or use it in a 3G only area. The problem was the antennas, there's just one. I know this to be true that most android phones that do this employ multiple antennas to do so. And on Sprint they are actually using SVDO which is CDMA rev B. This allows talk and surf on 3G. As you see the new 5c and 5s do support rev B in the CDMA model so there's hope.
    09-11-2013 06:56 AM
  9. Jay2pt0's Avatar
    Ignore the end of the last post. Did some fact checking. rev B is just more efficient 3G speeds and performance, which is good, but has nothing to do with your question. Its the SVDO that is the key and it doesn't seem Apple is using that or multiple antennas so best guess before trying is a very disappointing (and I have Sprint so it's VERY disappointing) no.
    09-11-2013 07:03 AM
  10. kch50428's Avatar
    iPhones have one radio and multiple antennae and can only use one antenna at a time... that's why there's no talk & surf over cellular.
    09-11-2013 07:56 AM
  11. Tre's Avatar
    This is why AT&T has a huge advantage still in my mind... not sure why anyone would even consider Verizon.
    09-11-2013 09:37 AM
  12. kch50428's Avatar
    This is why AT&T has a huge advantage still in my mind... not sure why anyone would even consider Verizon.
    AT&T has next to NO SERVICE where I live. Verizon has LTE. Is that a good enough reason to consider Verizon??
    09-11-2013 09:50 AM
  13. jtlundy's Avatar
    I'm with AT&T and due to the frequencies that are used in GSM, I cannot get reliable cell reception inside of my mostly metal and brick building (outside is fine). So here I am with the quandary of choosing between no voice while at work (I can take phone calls if I need to) or no data while on speaker phone. I think I can count the number of times on one hand when I've needed to use voice and data at the same time. So, unless the pricing due to corporate discounts works out much better in favor for ATT, I'm seriously considering jumping ship to VZW. I'm an Apple customer, we're used to making a few sacrifices here and there for the overall experience, right? I'm still too invested in apps to jump platforms yet though regardless of carrier.
    09-11-2013 01:30 PM
  14. jridgers's Avatar
    This is why AT&T has a huge advantage still in my mind... not sure why anyone would even consider Verizon.
    I had AT&T for many years and loved the service. I had dropped calls every once and awhile but nothing crazy. After I got married and we consolidated our accounts we decided to both be on Verizon. That's when I noticed a distinct improvement in reception and call quality on Verizon's network. I've never once had a dropped call on Verizon and people say they cannot tell I'm calling from my cell phone on Verizon and they did with AT&T (independent of the device I was using at the time). But different geographical areas are going to have different results.
    09-11-2013 01:53 PM
  15. jmfangio's Avatar
    Do you know if VoLTE will work on an iPhone 5? Thanks.
    09-11-2013 04:12 PM
  16. kch50428's Avatar
    Do you know if VoLTE will work on an iPhone 5? Thanks.
    Once Verizon deploys it and iOS gets an update for it - it should.
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    09-11-2013 04:20 PM
  17. warcraftWidow's Avatar
    Once Verizon deploys it and iOS gets an update for it - it should.
    VoLTE is still in carrier testing. I don't think any carrier is using it yet or any phone.
    09-11-2013 04:23 PM
  18. Ted G's Avatar
    I know I'm in an unusual circumstance where I travel ALL THE TIME -- and run my company from the road -- I use between 60 - 90 Gigs per month in data -- so "unlimited" is a NECESSITY...

    UNFORTUNATELY, Verizon is the ONLY carrier prevalent enough in the parts of the country I travel...

    Regarding VoLTE -- will this make ALL plans unlimited???

    Or will it do the OPPOSITE -- ELIMINATING those of us grandfathered in???

    ALSO -- in THEORY -- will the iPhone5 (original) be able to accomplish voice/data at the same time???
    09-11-2013 08:30 PM
  19. warcraftWidow's Avatar
    I know I'm in an unusual circumstance where I travel ALL THE TIME -- and run my company from the road -- I use between 60 - 90 Gigs per month in data -- so "unlimited" is a NECESSITY...

    UNFORTUNATELY, Verizon is the ONLY carrier prevalent enough in the parts of the country I travel...

    Regarding VoLTE -- will this make ALL plans unlimited???

    Or will it do the OPPOSITE -- ELIMINATING those of us grandfathered in???

    ALSO -- in THEORY -- will the iPhone5 (original) be able to accomplish voice/data at the same time???
    VoLTE has nothing to due with unlimited plans nor whether you are grandfathered in.

    It's just the tech necessary to allow Verizon or Sprint to do LTE data and LTE voice at the same time. They need it because CDMA doesn't do both like GSM does. I assume ATT and tmobile are looking into it as well, but they don't need it as urgently since they can use GSM for simultaneous voice and data.
    09-11-2013 11:08 PM
  20. DJBoxBaba's Avatar
    This is very much an Apple/iPhone issue now. Case in point: GS3, GS4, Note 2, Note 3, G2, HTC One, and even the thunderbolt can do simultaneous voice and data over LTE.
    09-12-2013 01:11 PM
  21. kch50428's Avatar
    This is very much an Apple/iPhone issue now. Case in point: GS3, GS4, Note 2, Note 3, G2, HTC One, and even the thunderbolt can do simultaneous voice and data over LTE.
    Except the voice isn't over LTE. It's over CDMA. And the data is over LTE. And those devices have two radios & antennae that the iPhone does not - by conscious choice by Apple to go with design considerations favoring device thinness & battery life over simultaneous voice & data - a limitation that intelligent users are able to work-around and get the performance and end user experience they desire.
    09-12-2013 01:18 PM
  22. Ted G's Avatar
    Your post sounds like you are challenging my intelligence -- lol...

    I'll take it in stride -- especially since you know WAY MORE about cell phones than I do...

    However, I find myself in the predicament I'm in through circumstances beyond my control and my limited foresight regarding cell phone company gouging tactics...

    I actually USED to have an "unlimited" mi-fi with Verizon -- but cancelled it when the Droid Razr2 accomplished BOTH purposes -- THAN, Verizon CHANGED their policies...
    09-12-2013 07:54 PM
  23. Grabber5.0's Avatar
    Oh so people that don't stay near wifi so they can use voice and data at the same time are less intelligent. Got it. :/
    09-12-2013 08:12 PM
  24. kch50428's Avatar
    Oh so people that don't stay near wifi so they can use voice and data at the same time are less intelligent. Got it. :/
    Long-time Verizon users who depend on being able to talk&surf have solutions for data that don't involve their phones because up until the recent crop of devices mentioned up thread, no Verizon devices have been capable of talk&surf.
    09-12-2013 08:22 PM
  25. Jay2pt0's Avatar
    To clear up some things. First, the iPhone has 1 antenna, 2 radios. Other phones on Verizon get around this 2 ways. First way is turning on both the CDMA and LTE radios at once using both antennas. Second is SVDO which the THUNDERBOLT uses to get talk and surf over CDMA exclusively when LTE is unavailable. Second thing, Rene wrote a post today reiterating that the iPhone would have to add a 2nd antenna (or SVDO) to enable talk and surf on Sprint or Verizon. This would force them to make a design decision they don't wish to make for a handful of carriers. Don't blame them. That said I'm on Sprint I know how much it sucks. I've used the GS3, Note 2, Evo 4G LTE and a few others in areas with no LTE and talk and surf was still possible bc SVDO support. I was great and even better when LTE is available but Apple has to make a phone for almost 200 countries so hey. What can you do?
    09-12-2013 10:57 PM
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