How is the iPhone not an enterprise device?
Well, at least you guys know the difference between the two phones? Cause I don't
He could never explain. He just said, we'll look at it, look at the videos in YouTube... So, basically he couldn't explain himself, You guys don't give a concrete explanation either so I don't know
I think there's a pretty big difference between saying something is "Not an enterprise device" and saying something isn't AS GOOD as another device at BEING an enterprise device. The iPhone works perfectly well for me as an enterprise device for what I ask for it, maybe you ask for more...or maybe you're just used to the Blackberry functioning in that realm, but to say that the iPhone isn't an enterprise device at all is a bit silly, especially since it's being picked up everyday by more and more corporations as their device of choice.
You want a concrete explanation? iOS is a more polished and tested operating system...it has a vastly larger app selection, it's had 6 iterations (going on 7) to work out the freshman bugs that BB10 will be fighting through over the next couple of years (if Blackberry lasts that long in the consumer market), and it performs with a stability that is unmatched ANYWHERE across the spectrum of smartphone OS's.
Then we can dive into the hardware in many ways...the camera is unquestionably better on the iPhone 5 than the Z10, the design is a matter of taste, but the weight and build quality is not, it is a cleaner device than the Z10 (which just has a yawn inducing design factor to it, and falls victim of blending in with the plethora of other stale, black plastic looking smartphones on the market these days). The Z10 is also significantly heavier (by smartphone standards).
...we could go on and on about apps and other opinionated items, but to lay it out, there's a pretty defined (IE: CONCRETE) "better" phone here, and it's made by Apple. Is it "better" for every person on the planet? Nope...and no phone ever will be. When you sit them down next to each other though, the iPhone sits on top of the device food chain, and one of them is clamoring away somewhere in the middle. We won't even get into sales figures and customer satisfaction here, lol...that's a road Blackberry will never get to, even if BB10 based end up very successful.
And the real beauty here? You're comparing last years iPhone to the fresh Blackberry...keep in mind that we're just a couple months away from a higher spec'ed iPhone, when the iPhone 5 is already holding it's own just fine against the NEW competition, lol.
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Couldn't you be more specific?
I think there's a pretty big difference between saying something is "Not an enterprise device" and saying something isn't AS GOOD as another device at BEING an enterprise device. The iPhone works perfectly well for me as an enterprise device for what I ask for it, maybe you ask for more...or maybe you're just used to the Blackberry functioning in that realm, but to say that the iPhone isn't an enterprise device at all is a bit silly, especially since it's being picked up everyday by more and more corporations as their device of choice.
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He could never explain. He just said, we'll look at it, look at the videos in YouTube... So, basically he couldn't explain himself, You guys don't give a concrete explanation either so I don't know
Several small items, that don't allow me to operate as quickly/smoothly as my 9930 did.
Conference calls - If I added a number to an individual's contact in this format 1.800.123.5555X123456# my 9930 saw that, and prompted me to dial the extension/PIN (from what I understand Android also acknowledged this format). The iPhone, I now have to go through all my contacts and change the X to a ; instead. The problem is, the number doesn't show up in the contact list as a number to dial for those respective contacts. So even though the format will work, I can put it in the meeting notes, and dial from there, I'm frustrated I don't have the numbers listed with the contacts, so when I know I have a call, I pull that person's contact card up, dial the conference call number. The phone is basically causing me extra work. Every conference call I accept, I have to edit the meeting to put the conf bridge number in a format the phone will acknowledge.
Calendar - Calendar appointments accepted in Outlook don't show as accepted on the iPhone. This was completely seamless on my 9930
Typing - Key to answering/responding to emails is just not conducive to being productive. I just find it rather difficult to type on the iPhone. (I can't avoid it either, so I'm forced to get used to it, and its not happening) My Z10 is hands down, more productive to type with. So much so, there is no need to use common mobile phone shorthand.
Why do I have to slide to unlock, if I just used a button to turn it on? Why in the app store do I always have to put my password in for free apps, and twice to buy one?
Riding in the car, playing music, answering calls, its great.
The way see it, the apps make the iPhone. The OS is just there, unless there's something I'm missing, its just swipe and tap.
I'm not bashing the iPhone, its just not geared for productivity. It does what it does well, and that's play music, video, take pictures/video, and run cool apps.
Receiving/Sending/syncing email/appt's is a start, but being productive using it for email/conf-calls is another level that the iPhone is just falling short. I can do it, but it's a bit clunky doing it....
It's interesting you mention the Calendar issue, I work in IT and had to help a client with that, his iPhone did not sync the accepted calendar event and to get it to sync i had to remove and re add that calendar
I came here with the purpose of knowing this.
I have a friend that says that the Z10 is not on the level of the 4S and too far away from iP5. Not sure what he means by that so I was hoping to get some answers on this.
Then we can dive into the hardware in many ways...the camera is unquestionably better on the iPhone 5 than the Z10, the design is a matter of taste, but the weight and build quality is not, it is a cleaner device than the Z10 (which just has a yawn inducing design factor to it, and falls victim of blending in with the plethora of other stale, black plastic looking smartphones on the market these days). The Z10 is also significantly heavier (by smartphone standards).
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blah blah blah...useless drivel...blah.