View Poll Results: Go bigger?

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  • Yes go bigger

    112 70.44%
  • No do not go bigger

    47 29.56%
  1. return_0's Avatar
    Apparently they did something pretty substantially RIGHT with their unorthodox size increase (looking at the popularity of this version of iPhone and the response to the new screen size after it's release).
    Also look at the popularity of 4.5"-5.5" Android phones.
    04-13-2013 12:55 PM
  2. return_0's Avatar
    All I'm saying is that Apple could certainly benefit from a larger phone. Heck, why not release two versions? 4" and 4.7"? They're really taking it too far with this stubbornness thing.
    04-13-2013 12:59 PM
  3. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    All I'm saying is that Apple could certainly benefit from a larger phone. Heck, why not release two versions? 4" and 4.7"? They're really taking it too far with this stubbornness thing.
    Let's say for a moment that Apple is indeed being 'stubborn' about releasing a larger sized iPhone. They are not obligated in any way, shape or form to cater to things we desire. It is Apple's product to which we either choose to purchase or choose not to purchase. Period. I will never understand how some people (this is not an attack on you) acknowledges the fact that other manufacturers provide larger sized & open-friendly smartphones but instead opt to expend time and energy harping on Apple for not following the crowd. Furthermore, these same people proclaim that having a "choice" is a good thing but then discredits Apple's "choice" to stick to a smaller size smartphone.
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    04-13-2013 01:33 PM
  4. EauRouge's Avatar
    The iPhone 5 is the perfect size in my opinion. It should have been this size from the start. If they decide later on to make the iPhone bigger, it should the same size as the iPad Mini.


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    you cant be serious. ipad size!?
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    04-13-2013 01:35 PM
  5. EauRouge's Avatar
    Let's say for a moment that Apple is indeed being 'stubborn' about releasing a larger sized iPhone. They are not obligated in any way, shape or form to cater to things we desire. It is Apple's product to which we either choose to purchase or choose not to purchase. Period. I will never understand how some people (this is not an attack on you) acknowledges the fact that other manufacturers provide larger sized & open-friendly smartphones but instead opt to expend time and energy harping on Apple for not following the crowd. Furthermore, these same people proclaim that having a "choice" is a good thing but then discredits Apple's "choice" to stick to a smaller iPhone.
    You made some really good points in this post. But I disagree with what I've bolded. Sure they arent obligated, but they do need to look out for what their user base does want. Expressing opinion and "harping" on Apple to change, may bring about some changes. I think thats why the iphone 5 went with a bigger screen. The community said they wanted it.

    If Apple pays zero attention to their customers, and their customer keep buying just because its Apple... I don't think that right. Or fair to Apple or the customers. Customers should be able to ask for what they want. And Apple should optimize what they can deliver.
    04-13-2013 01:41 PM
  6. return_0's Avatar
    Let's say for a moment that Apple is indeed being 'stubborn' about releasing a larger sized iPhone. They are not obligated in any way, shape or form to cater to things we desire. It is Apple's product to which we either choose to purchase or choose not to purchase. Period. I will never understand how some people (this is not an attack on you) acknowledges the fact that other manufacturers provide larger sized & open-friendly smartphones but instead opt to expend time and energy harping on Apple for not following the crowd. Furthermore, these same people proclaim that having a "choice" is a good thing but then discredits Apple's "choice" to stick to a smaller size smartphone.
    I agree that Apple is not obligated to make a larger iPhone, but I can't see them turning away from something that would just rake in more profits for them. Unless, of course, there's something I'm missing an having two iPhones (a large one and a small one) is unprofitable.
    04-13-2013 01:48 PM
  7. Bias reduX's Avatar
    Let's say for a moment that Apple is indeed being 'stubborn' about releasing a larger sized iPhone. They are not obligated in any way, shape or form to cater to things we desire. It is Apple's product to which we either choose to purchase or choose not to purchase. Period. I will never understand how some people (this is not an attack on you) acknowledges the fact that other manufacturers provide larger sized & open-friendly smartphones but instead opt to expend time and energy harping on Apple for not following the crowd. Furthermore, these same people proclaim that having a "choice" is a good thing but then discredits Apple's "choice" to stick to a smaller iPhone.
    I'll never understand how some people think that anything listed above is a good business plan. Obviously Apple continues to do well with the way it works, which amazes me day by day, but I can tell you that no other company on the planet would last if they ran things the way Apple runs things.

    Choice is always in the customers hands, if someone came into my place of work and asked for a single switch circuit breaker and I say you'll get a double. The customer would walk out of my shop and never come back. Now matter how big, well known, etc. my company was, period. (Of course its a little different as my case may be a necessity, while having a phone is not)
    There are other options of course, Android, Windows Phone, Blackberry, but why wouldn't you want those customers to stay? I'm not going to change my product for a wide range of people simply because its not my "choice" as a company to do so. Absurd.

    Sure I don't necessarily agree that going bigger or having two different sizes is exactly what Apple needs right now, but there are other things about Apple that I wonder about if they are ever going to change.
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    04-13-2013 01:52 PM
  8. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    You made some really good points in this post. But I disagree with what I've bolded. Sure they arent obligated, but they do need to look out for what their user base does want. Expressing opinion and "harping" on Apple to change, may bring about some changes. I think thats why the iphone 5 went with a bigger screen. The community said they wanted it.

    If Apple pays zero attention to their customers, and their customer keep buying just because its Apple... I don't think that right. Or fair to Apple or the customers. Customers should be able to ask for what they want. And Apple should optimize what they can deliver.
    Excellent response and thank you for replying. Having said that, when you say that "they do need to look out for what their user base does want", I agree and they have and that is why the iPhone is still small and simple to use. There's somewhat of a misconception of who Apple considers its user base. Some say that it is the non-tech enthusiasts who simply want to pick up their devices and do the things they want to do without difficulty and could care less about techie stuff. I tend to agree with that loose assessment. If they are indeed Apple's core user base then Apple would risk a real backlash ( not the manufactured backlash that's been in the news as of late) if they make drastic changes that those users aren't prepared for. Being that they aren't making those drastic changes, it can be argued that Apple is indeed paying attention.
    Last edited by JustMe'D; 04-13-2013 at 02:14 PM.
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    04-13-2013 01:55 PM
  9. natasftw's Avatar
    That is certainly how they see it. And actually, it has been working for them for quite a few years and I agree if it ain't broke, don't fix it. But it seems to me with Android's increased marketshare, the business road map may be showing some signs of wear and tear.
    Increased from when? From when the iPhone first revolutionized the phone market? Then yes, Android has made strides.

    Recently? Apple's market share is up. That means Apple gained customers. If Android gained market, it's from non-Apple shares. That's not exactly relevant to Apple's business process. Could they possibly have gone up more? Maybe. But, growing is growing.
    04-13-2013 02:16 PM
  10. natasftw's Avatar
    Smartphones aren't really made for children anyway so I don't see why that matters.
    If you read the post within context, it makes more sense.

    Someone else supported your claim that a wider phone is one-handed for children so adults should be able to handle a wider iPhone. Alli replied explaining what one-handed meant in order to explain where a confusion existed in their claim that the wider phone works for children so it would also work for adults.

    You're welcome for stating the obvious to you.
    04-13-2013 02:18 PM
  11. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    I agree that Apple is not obligated to make a larger iPhone, but I can't see them turning away from something that would just rake in more profits for them. Unless, of course, there's something I'm missing an having two iPhones (a large one and a small one) is unprofitable.
    Not only is the iPhone the biggest selling smartphone on the planet, it continues to outsell smartphones that are arguably more technically advanced. Why is that? Does that prove that a bigger size and better specs are the key to smartphone success? Nope. That can't be it. Does it mean that if a company floods the market with Smartphones in various sizes and various modifications to the operating systems it will make that company the most successful? Nope. That can't be it. If Apple was in need of profits and was arguably struggling like HTC is at the moment then they probably would consider moving away from their current roadmap, but they are not in dire straits and thus, they don't have to alter their strategy. Finally, having two smartphone sizes from Apple could very well be profitable, but currently, not having two is not unprofitable to them.
    Last edited by JustMe'D; 04-13-2013 at 04:32 PM.
    04-13-2013 02:29 PM
  12. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    I'll never understand how some people think that anything listed above is a good business plan.
    With the success that Apple has had and is still having, how can it not be considered a good business plan for it?
    Obviously Apple continues to do well with the way it works, which amazes me day by day, but I can tell you that no other company on the planet would last if they ran things the way Apple runs things.
    That may very well be true, however, every company is not Apple.

    Choice is always in the customers hands, if someone came into my place of work and asked for a single switch circuit breaker and I say you'll get a double. The customer would walk out of my shop and never come back.
    True, but the same thing applies to Apple. If you walk into an Apple Store looking for an iPhone with a 5 inch retina display, you will not get one and you will either buy the one with the 4 inch display or opt to buy another brand from a competitor.
    Now matter how big, well known, etc. my company was, period. (Of course its a little different as my case may be a necessity, while having a phone is not)
    There are other options of course, Android, Windows Phone, Blackberry, but why wouldn't you want those customers to stay? I'm not going to change my product for a wide range of people simply because its not my "choice" as a company to do so. Absurd.
    No it is not absurd and define "wide range of people". If "wide range" equates to 5%, I doubt that you or any other business person would change your product to suit such a small amount of people, but of course, that's just my opinion.

    Sure I don't necessarily agree that going bigger or having two different sizes is exactly what Apple needs right now, but there are other things about Apple that I wonder about if they are ever going to change.
    Sure they'll change eventually, but who's to make that determination as to when?
    Last edited by JustMe'D; 04-13-2013 at 04:34 PM.
    04-13-2013 03:43 PM
  13. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    You made some really good points in this post. But I disagree with what I've bolded. Sure they arent obligated, but they do need to look out for what their user base does want. Expressing opinion and "harping" on Apple to change, may bring about some changes. I think thats why the iphone 5 went with a bigger screen. The community said they wanted it.

    If Apple pays zero attention to their customers, and their customer keep buying just because its Apple... I don't think that right. Or fair to Apple or the customers. Customers should be able to ask for what they want. And Apple should optimize what they can deliver.
    Apple's user base isn't the one harping for a bigger screen...the people who cry the most about wanting a bigger screen are the ones using an Android device who want to come back to an Apple product. That's the truth of the matter. It has been proven year after year that Apple keeps its consumer base happy...but these major redesign requests, at least from my view, are not comping from the iPhone consumer base.
    04-13-2013 04:22 PM
  14. androidluvr2's Avatar
    And Apple should optimize what they can deliver.
    And therein lies one of the most significant differences between Apple and Android. Apple chooses optimization over customization. It is hard to have both. Android is customizable at the expense of optimization.
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    04-13-2013 04:30 PM
  15. saudre's Avatar
    I wasn't saying that the iPhone needed to be that much bigger, I was just saying that the ratio is off because of redesigning it halfway.
    04-13-2013 04:34 PM
  16. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    I wasn't saying that the iPhone needed to be that much bigger, I was just saying that the ratio is off because of redesigning it halfway.
    They didn't redesign anything half way...they weren't trying to redesign it in any pre-existing ratio, they were trying to give a unique and unorthodox approach to a larger design, and did it COMPLETE. A single person's feel that the design was not proper doesn't reflect across the spectrum...most people love it (looking at how many sold and it's continued positive response on the market).
    04-13-2013 04:46 PM
  17. omgzombiess's Avatar
    I hope to see a larger screen but I won't be holding my breath
    04-13-2013 05:27 PM
  18. saudre's Avatar
    They didn't redesign anything half way...they weren't trying to redesign it in any pre-existing ratio, they were trying to give a unique and unorthodox approach to a larger design, and did it COMPLETE. A single person's feel that the design was not proper doesn't reflect across the spectrum...most people love it (looking at how many sold and it's continued positive response on the market).
    I don't think we will ever in our lives see a decline in iPhone sales. At this point, it's not that people are buying it because they like it, they're buying because they need it. I mean, look at maps, that was pretty much unmarketable but people are still using it.
    04-13-2013 06:13 PM
  19. jtan99's Avatar
    bigger hands need bigger screens!
    04-13-2013 07:21 PM
  20. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    I don't think we will ever in our lives see a decline in iPhone sales. At this point, it's not that people are buying it because they like it, they're buying because they need it. I mean, look at maps, that was pretty much unmarketable but people are still using it.
    I look at the maps often, and find it perfectly usable and marketable...so much so that i haven't found a need to download the much hyped Google Maps app that so many went crazy for.

    Are you seriously trying to convince people that the iPhone sells in the numbers that it does because of necessity and not out of want? Are you F'ing kidding me? LMAO!
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    04-14-2013 02:21 PM
  21. General Tso's Avatar
    Dude, you can't say anything bad or even close to bad about Apple on this site. They're all fanboys. This is probably the worst place to discuss the iPhone if you want to have a real discussing and not just Apple worshipping.
    04-14-2013 06:33 PM
  22. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    Dude, you can't say anything bad or even close to bad about Apple on this site. They're all fanboys. This is probably the worst place to discuss the iPhone if you want to have a real discussing and not just Apple worshipping.
    That is incorrect, but I will say this - it is probably not a good idea to bypass a forum dedicated to one's choice device and enter a forum dedicated to the choice device of others to try and talk about how their device should be bigger or offer this or that under the guise of having an objective conversation. Furthermore, if you read throughout this forum, people who came across as being truly objective have been applauded and those who did not were not. Having said that, we at iMore welcome good conversation especially in regard to Apple products.
    revtech and Dryland like this.
    04-14-2013 07:33 PM
  23. SeanHRCC's Avatar
    lol...nobody is making you guys stay here. Feel free to leave!
    revtech likes this.
    04-14-2013 10:29 PM
  24. General Tso's Avatar
    I like the forum. I come here for jailbreak info and the latest rumors. All I'm saying is that if you come here for actual discussion about pros and cons of Apple products and practices, you're gonna be disappointed. Its a fanboy forum.
    spiky5 likes this.
    04-14-2013 11:16 PM
  25. Just_Me_D's Avatar
    I like the forum. I come here for jailbreak info and the latest rumors. All I'm saying is that if you come here for actual discussion about pros and cons of Apple products and practices, you're gonna be disappointed. Its a fanboy forum.
    It is indeed a forum for Apple enthusiasts but also for people wanting to know how to fix issues they may be having with their Apple devices among other things. However, the same can be said in regard to the Crackberry, WebOS, WIndows Mobile and Android forum. Having said that, they are all fan sites to a certain degree. Wouldn't you agree?
    04-14-2013 11:24 PM
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