1. saudre's Avatar
    When the pilots get to use iPads?
    04-03-2013 06:14 PM
  2. RobbyRob's Avatar
    Just watched this on CNN. There is no reason to turn them off. They just have not spent the money for the research to say we can keep them on. Even small aircraft pilots keep them on. So that is a great question.
    04-03-2013 06:16 PM
  3. kch50428's Avatar
    The pilots' iPads are likely wifi only, and they store the stuff they really need directly on the devices and don't even need wifi in-flight. I've seen news reports that the FAA is looking into relaxing rules to allow devices to remain powered on - just turning off the cellular radio...
    el_excelsior likes this.
    04-03-2013 06:18 PM
  4. Bakerboy2253's Avatar
    I fly over 100 flights a year, I find it more interesting of late that they have become more anal about making sure your smart phone is off. They are telling people that “airplane mode” isn’t good enough. It must be turned off / powered down all the way.
    04-03-2013 07:08 PM
  5. Fausty82's Avatar
    When the pilots get to use iPads?
    Because the FAA says so. Hopefully that will change soon, but it’s the way it is for now.
    04-03-2013 07:13 PM
  6. saudre's Avatar
    I mean I don't care. I'm scared of riding on planes anyway. Besides, if you get on those cushy business flights, you'll be being pampered and won't have to worry about being on a phone anyway,
    04-03-2013 07:14 PM
  7. Jaguarr40's Avatar
    04-03-2013 07:58 PM
  8. PineappleUnderTheSea's Avatar
    I have read that the electromagnetic radiation emitted by the phone can induce some sort of electrical charge in the wiring located all around you.

    Of course, the radiation emitted by the phone is likely way too weak for this to happen, even if your phone was physically glued to the wires.
    04-03-2013 07:58 PM
  9. jerome g's Avatar
    I don't turn mine off.
    04-03-2013 10:03 PM
  10. EauRouge's Avatar
    I don't turn mine off.

    if there is a 1/100,000,000 chance that something goes wrong, why take it? so you can play angry birds?

    if it was just you, you can take that risk. but its not fair to make the decision for others and put them at risk
    04-03-2013 10:12 PM
  11. saudre's Avatar
    And if we were going down, you wouldn't be getting any help from me. Every man for himself.
    04-03-2013 11:11 PM
  12. eastbayrae's Avatar
    I am usually so tanked, off free booze, in the first hour I don't need my phone to entertain me.
    04-03-2013 11:36 PM
  13. Quis89's Avatar
    if there is a 1/100,000,000 chance that something goes wrong, why take it? so you can play angry birds?

    if it was just you, you can take that risk. but its not fair to make the decision for others and put them at risk
    When is the last time you've heard of a plane crashing because someone didn't turn off their iPhone? Just wondering...
    04-04-2013 05:06 PM
  14. eastbayrae's Avatar
    I fly military aircraft on the regular and this is never a concern. The FAA is investigating stopping the practice altogether for lack of evidence.
    04-04-2013 07:04 PM
  15. el_excelsior's Avatar
    I fly over 100 flights a year, I find it more interesting of late that they have become more anal about making sure your smart phone is off. They are telling people that “airplane mode” isn’t good enough. It must be turned off / powered down all the way.
    It's not so much about communication problems and interference (as there really isn't a problem with having devices on) but privacy /security issue, hence the tightening of late.
    04-04-2013 08:27 PM
  16. jerome g's Avatar
    if there is a 1/100,000,000 chance that something goes wrong, why take it? so you can play angry birds?

    if it was just you, you can take that risk. but its not fair to make the decision for others and put them at risk
    It has no effect and I know I'm not alone in this. Heck, I bet the pilots have theirs on also. I am not playing games, just too lazy to turn it on and off.
    The concern is similar to when you couldn't use a cell phone in hospitals due to possible interference with telemetry equipment.
    04-04-2013 08:48 PM
  17. Timhewitt's Avatar
    Anyone who flies regularly knows that many passengers don't bother to turn off their phones. They are on in their hand luggage or purse and of course nothing bad happens.

    The FAA never did any research that showed a problem between cell phones and avionics. They used some UK research from a lab that simulated the radio traffic with cell phones at significantly higher power levels than possible with cell phones.

    Never been a risk of interference.
    04-04-2013 10:57 PM
  18. _YoKolorMeBadd's Avatar
    I fly over 100 flights a year, I find it more interesting of late that they have become more anal about making sure your smart phone is off. They are telling people that “airplane mode” isn’t good enough. It must be turned off / powered down all the way.
    I'm wondering why airplane mode isn't good enough. You can't do anything but play games and listen to music with airplane mode off. That in no way interferes with the flight at all.
    04-05-2013 12:07 AM
  19. DJLILM's Avatar
    Maybe they don't want nobody hacking into the plane.


    Sent from my iPhone4s using Tapatalk
    04-05-2013 12:54 AM
  20. mulasien's Avatar
    if there is a 1/100,000,000 chance that something goes wrong, why take it? so you can play angry birds?

    if it was just you, you can take that risk. but its not fair to make the decision for others and put them at risk
    Because the *actual* chance of something going wrong is more like 0/100000000. i.e., it ain't gonna happen.

    I have a confession to make, I've had both a tablet and smartphone in airplane mode on every flight I've taken in the past year (about 45). Not once have we crashed.

    There's a reason why the FAA is looking to remove the restrictions, because they're not based on any real facts.
    04-05-2013 01:22 PM
  21. Peligro911's Avatar
    Maybe it's so you have to purchase movies and crap from them and pay attention to the take off announcements lol


    Sent from my iPhone 5 from a galaxy far far away (in the USA ) using Tapatalk !
    04-05-2013 02:19 PM
  22. Nyan_Cat100's Avatar
    I think it's a huge conspiracy to get u to pay for the inflight entertainment plus modern aircraft wiring is heavily shielded to prevent any interference so I think it's a load of bull
    04-05-2013 02:52 PM
  23. eastbayrae's Avatar
    If it's such an issue with the FAA than why are some airlines allowing cell calls to the ground AND wifi on flights?
    04-05-2013 03:53 PM
  24. TRoss's Avatar
    As I understand it, it is about keeping devices stowed during takeoff and landing when they might easily become projectiles if something went awry. At cruising altitude they don't care because the chances of that are much less likely (you can also recline your seat and have that tray table down at those altitudes). If people have them on while the flight attendants go strap in then they can just pull them back out and use them. If the people next to you think using your device will bring down the plane there is a higher degree of social pressure to keep things stowed than if the fear is that given a lurch in the plane it might fly out of your hand.

    But seriously, if a powered on device in airplane mode can in any way interfere with the plane then 1) why allow them at cruising altitude 2) why don't hijackers take advantage of a design flaw more egregious than the Death Star's exhaust port?
    04-05-2013 04:11 PM
  25. jerome g's Avatar
    As I understand it, it is about keeping devices stowed during takeoff and landing when they might easily become projectiles if something went awry. At cruising altitude they don't care because the chances of that are much less likely (you can also recline your seat and have that tray table down at those altitudes). If people have them on while the flight attendants go strap in then they can just pull them back out and use them. If the people next to you think using your device will bring down the plane there is a higher degree of social pressure to keep things stowed than if the fear is that given a lurch in the plane it might fly out of your hand.

    But seriously, if a powered on device in airplane mode can in any way interfere with the plane then 1) why allow them at cruising altitude 2) why don't hijackers take advantage of a design flaw more egregious than the Death Star's exhaust port?
    I agree with all of your points.
    I will digress a little re projectiles.
    Why is it that you can carry a child under 3 years old on your lap without them being strapped in ?
    That is the most ridiculous thing I see happening on a plane. If there is a high speed crash.....you want to see a projectile?
    04-05-2013 11:14 PM
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